AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

@Catza ”According to the government figures, nearly 300k people were returned under the Dublin agreement between 2010 and 2015.”

Errrrr? Excuse me?
Between 2010 and 2015, the UK transferred 3,307 people out of the country to other European nations under the Dublin Regulation (excluding 2011, for which official UK outgoing data was incomplete/not published).

So basically 1% of the number you have stated.

Thats from the UK Parliament portal.
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201719/ldselect/ldeucom/428/42806.htm

Does anyone remember this in the news. Anyway lets welcome Afghanis to England. Fine. The culcha in which they were brought up will not matter. nah.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16077757/Story-Taliban-execution-Zarmina.html

The Dublin agreement didn’t work
Transfers of asylum seekers from the UK to France under the Dublin Regulation:
2017 - 10
2018 - 51
2019 - 53
2020 - 25
In return, we accepted some asylum seekers from France under the Dublin Regulation, e.g.
2017 - 91
2018 - 92
2019 - 90

and ( for the anti Brexit brigade) -if we rejoined the EU they wouldn’t need to pay people smugglers -they’d just hop on the train or ferry to get here so there is no way we can rejoin

How am I confused?

You started a thread and your second sentence was about the poor women who were burned on the boat.

But then you replied saying how posters are more bothered about the women being burnt, rather than the man who was stabbed.

If you didn’t think the women being sunburnt on the boat was a big deal then why mention it before mentioning the man getting stabbed - in fact why mention it at all?

No. Read back. You're mixed up. Never bother.

"The Dublin agreement didn’t work
Transfers of asylum seekers from the UK to France under the Dublin Regulation:"

Yes but by the same token the whole idea of Rwanda was that once people knew you could be transferred there it would be a deterrent that would reduce overall immigration.

It's a bit contradictory to say that Rwanda as a symbolic deterrent was worth it but knowing you could be sent back to France as a symbolic deterrent was pointless

Yes, what is the solution - I think in our major cities maybe the numbers of former i
migrants is so high that we can’t pull together enough for a march ? Also risk of our two tier justice system locking you up for ‘racism’ .
i would happily march if someone would arrange one

Why, what's the number? I'm sure you have some genuine argument and are not just a reform bot, so please get into the actual statistics.

How would you get back from Rwanda if you’ve chucked your passport -no way you’d get on a plane - great deterrent

I can remember this. It was a football stadium build by Foreign Aid.
They brought several people along in the backs of flatbed trucks, dragged them out and shot them in the head.

Sorry, the Irish didn't make good house guests because we were all drunks!? I was just at the Ulster-American folk museum yesterday, and I think you could be doing with a walk around it to see what the Irish were actually facing in those days.

Genuine question: how old are you? You must be very young to be so unaware of the racism immigrants faced and how endemic it was.

"No Irish, no Blacks no dogs" signs. The Tory party slogan “If you want a (n-word) for a neighbour, vote Labour.”. The New Cross fire. House builders refusing to sell houses to people of colour.These are just a few examples.

No I’m not.

I literally quoted what you said so how can I be mixed up when I used your own words?

Ah. The bigotry of your post explains your denial of the racism people faced.

I'm just saying what the situation was in Liverpool.
I knew a retired chap who had a big hotel and he used to host Irish Wedding Receptions. He quickly learned that the best way to manage it all was to keep the Priest there as long as possible and keep plying the Father with (Irish) whisky and ham rolls.
As soon as the Priest left, the fights started.
(He also learned to take a big deposit against breakages.)
The Irish have always been big drinkers. Have you never been to Irish Day at Cheltenham? They bring the Guinness in tankers.

Crikey. It is though I have travelled back to a time when racism against the Irish was acceptable and overt.

Yes but we are trying aent we look at the out cry over Rotherham etc and the other cars where women have been killed or abused
But how many more can we take when frankly we do not need too ? We are putting ourselves at even more risk into an already over loaded system

Well it stuck around a long time in Liverpool and also in Glasgow. These were the two main stopping off points for the Irish Immigrants.

It's a sexist issue.

We are letting gangs of young, single men of a different religion into our country and they are then attacking and raping women and getting away with it.

I'll also leave Rotherham on the table.

There's a theme here.

Ive Unwatched this thread now. Ive said my peice and thats it. We all have opinions on it but unless someone will actually stop the boats it wont stop. This is too big a conversation for a lazy Sunday after a roast before the kids go back to school. This topic will always draw opinions from all sides. I think some comments have been posted to purposefully raise tensions so im out. 😘

I cannot believe seemingly educated women on here are still bleating on about the fact that it's men, not just Muslim men.

Get out of stow on the wold or whichever Home Counties you come from and go to:

Stoneyholme in Nelson
Colne road in Burnley
Bradford.

Then come tell me if you think we should be inclusive.

When your fleeing from scorching hot third world countries with no social care system at all no docs no money for anything of course anything they get here is incredible we enjoy even in the basics a far higher standard of living dont we!
Proper beds off the ground /mattress /pillows proper loos and washing facilities , electricty and kettles and fridges ! All luxuries we take for granted

You will be sad to learn that you missed a demo in Doncaster yesterday where "patriots" invaded a church. The police had to be called to protect the vicar.

Lovely people.

I mean we dont literally have any prison space do we ??