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Dh says the U.K is f***** and he never wants to go back

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Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 14:55

These were his words this morning.

We live abroad in a place where a lot of people are coming to live, escaping the uk and America.
He says with everything on the news, the way it's going and what the people coming to where we are tell him, that we'd be mad to return.
Is he being realistic? I want to return to be with family desperately and have a strange feeling that I need to do it soon

Would we be mad to return at this time? If yes, then when!

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Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 21:54

Theendoftheroll · Yesterday 21:52

Op, he isn’t going to change his mind 🤷‍♀️

and i get from this ambiguous response that you need to post on relationships for other issues

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Other issues about what?

Why are you trying to get personal, this seems odd in relation to the post I made asking about life in Britain

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Spookyspaghetti · Yesterday 21:56

Isthisright220 · Yesterday 15:02

Dubai by any chance?

j mean, he’s not wrong. Public finances are at zero and it’s clear we will all be taxed more in a few months.

It was the never ending stream of Tory tax dodgers who depleted the country and gave nothing back. Most of whom are non doms. Reform and all the other ‘R’ parties want to do the same: take everything from the public purse while living abroad.

For most normal people everything here is as it ever was but more expensive, and the white criminal class has decided it owns the place which has brought us back round to the era of the ‘hoody.’ There is also a problem with local businesses being able to get away with being fronts for criminal activity. The shops are run by immigrants but the clientele buying the drugs are white British. People who live in places like Dubai and don’t want to come back can frankly stay there are they don’t contribute to society so can get stuffed.

Theendoftheroll · Yesterday 21:56

Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 21:54

Other issues about what?

Why are you trying to get personal, this seems odd in relation to the post I made asking about life in Britain

Op… you want to come back to the Uk
he categorically absolutely never ever wants to return
One of you is going to have to cave (and then feel bitter and unhappy about it)

Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 21:57

Theendoftheroll · Yesterday 21:53

Reread your own op
no way is someone with that mentality going to change his mind

Okay. Thanks for your feedback. I was trying to stay positive at this point.

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AnonyMumAuDHD · Yesterday 21:58

Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 21:46

Ok 😂

You asked. You wanted opinions and real reports of what life in the Uk is like. I told you. I described the WHOLE of the UK.

Feel free to ignore and mock us. But when you’ve sat in traffic for 7 hours on a Friday in the summer, on the A303 near stone henge, it won’t be you that’s laughing. Remember to pack a she-wee and bottle water, as you’ll need it.

Theendoftheroll · Yesterday 21:59

Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 21:57

Okay. Thanks for your feedback. I was trying to stay positive at this point.

He said this… literally hours ago.
I think you need to start asking yourself what’s more important… being close to family but not having your child with you all the time OR staying where you and not being close to family but your child is with you all the tome

Because your DH sounds like he won’t ever be changing his mind

Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 22:00

AnonyMumAuDHD · Yesterday 21:58

You asked. You wanted opinions and real reports of what life in the Uk is like. I told you. I described the WHOLE of the UK.

Feel free to ignore and mock us. But when you’ve sat in traffic for 7 hours on a Friday in the summer, on the A303 near stone henge, it won’t be you that’s laughing. Remember to pack a she-wee and bottle water, as you’ll need it.

?

I wasn't mocking. Just that some of the replies are just so intense and defensive and quite mean. Just need to relax a bit

I don't understand the 7 hours sitting in traffic thing, sorry a bit confused!

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Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 22:01

Theendoftheroll · Yesterday 21:59

He said this… literally hours ago.
I think you need to start asking yourself what’s more important… being close to family but not having your child with you all the time OR staying where you and not being close to family but your child is with you all the tome

Because your DH sounds like he won’t ever be changing his mind

Okay thanks.

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Theendoftheroll · Yesterday 22:01

Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 22:01

Okay thanks.

No problem

I wish you the best.

1dayatatime · Yesterday 22:02

EvieBB · Yesterday 21:22

In what way is the UK f***??

Well economically for a start as this chart shows:

Dh says the U.K is f***** and he never wants to go back
randomchap · Yesterday 22:07

Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 21:46

Ok 😂

Someone's taken time to try to help and inform you, and you've just done a laughing emoji.

That's remarkably rude and shows quite a bit about your lack of character

Theendoftheroll · Yesterday 22:08

1dayatatime · Yesterday 22:02

Well economically for a start as this chart shows:

gotta love a sourceless graph 😆

shuggles · Yesterday 22:10

@Chippednailtoepolish Soain and Portugal

If you are younger than 60, then your husband is absolutely insane.

Portugal and Spain are both lovely places... for now. In a 1 - 2 decades, they will be very difficult places to live in.

Europe is the fastest warming continent. Tens of thousands of people died this summer due to heat. Wildfires covered the entire country in horrendous pollution.

And remember that 2026 will be the colder than any future year in your lifetime.

Flamingojune · Yesterday 22:11

AnonyMumAuDHD · Yesterday 21:58

You asked. You wanted opinions and real reports of what life in the Uk is like. I told you. I described the WHOLE of the UK.

Feel free to ignore and mock us. But when you’ve sat in traffic for 7 hours on a Friday in the summer, on the A303 near stone henge, it won’t be you that’s laughing. Remember to pack a she-wee and bottle water, as you’ll need it.

There are trains to cornwall, with toilets too

envbeckyc · Yesterday 22:12

moonraker0 · Yesterday 20:48

These issues may seem exaggerated to you but you have to accept that to many it’s every day life. It’s very dependent on where you live but in some areas immigration, crime, education and the NHS are huge problems for people.

I live in a city that has been targeted by various politicians, and the press and influencers… and yes if you go to very deprived neighbourhoods you will find fly tipping and HMOs, but that’s not the experience of most areas of the city or people who live there!

Issues are amplified by social media that very much give a distorted view of life in England!

They are not accurate!

DdraigGoch · Yesterday 22:14

Firetreev · Yesterday 15:03

It's not fucked. There is a lot Britain bashing going on at the moment especially amongst Americans, it's practically become an industry for those on the MAGA right. The country has a lot of problems, but if we work together and don't allow ourselves to be divided I do think things can be improved. It's giving in to division and hate which will lead us into the gutter as those who seek to divide us (whether it be by class, sexuality, religion, race, left or right) don't actually want things to get better. In fact they're livelihoods rely on it getting worse.

Liz Truss is frequently over there as MAGA's useful idiot too.

AnonyMumAuDHD · Yesterday 22:17

Flamingojune · Yesterday 22:11

There are trains to cornwall, with toilets too

Mentioned above already - I am aware as have used them - London/Truro for 2 adults and 2 children is @£350. Hence most people get in their cars.

Beryl92 · Yesterday 22:21

There is a massive propaganda effort against the uk at the moment - from different sides I think. MAGA definitely want to paint uk as some kind of dystopia, and there's definitely the likes of GB News who want to too. But I've lived here my whole life and am quite old and I think it's pretty much the same as ever. It's really tough to be poor, but it always has been. Some public services struggle, but they always have. I'm on an average salary, living in a pretty average family, and my day today involved a nice day off work (because we have decent labour laws and I benefit from flexible working), I went for a nice walk with the kids at a local country park and they played in the free playground, the people around us were polite and courteous and I exchanged pleasantries with one of the other parents as our kids played together, I had enough money in my pocket to buy them a treat, and we had plenty of fresh water from home and water refill points. I didn't feel unsafe as a lone female with two kids and no-one batted an eyelid that I had my own money and my own car. My children are enjoying their last week before they return to their entirely state funded education (there's a lot wrong with the education system, but it still functions) and my rubbish was collected this morning without me having to do anything more than drag the bins and recycling to the kerb. I popped out to a hobby this evening and had a laugh with some friends. Most of the people around me are polite, tolerant and often really funny - the people i meet in real life are MUCH nicer than social media might have you believe. I think I'm on to a good thing living in this country - it really could be a lot worse (mustn't grumble)

justasking111 · Yesterday 22:29

Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 21:36

Why from Norway?

Two reasons I recall being. Long dark winters and high taxes. They've also had immigrants issues, which to be fair the government are addressing now.

DdraigGoch · Yesterday 22:35

Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 15:31

In England?! All we see on the news and everywhere, it's shocking

Just goes to show that you shouldn't believe everything you see in the media.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 22:39

DdraigGoch · Yesterday 22:35

Just goes to show that you shouldn't believe everything you see in the media.

Tbf to the op Portugal ranks as safer than the UK, Spain bit safer but not as much

Hesrightofcourse · Yesterday 22:47

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NanFlanders · Yesterday 22:54

Spain has one of the lowest violent crime rates in the world - but honestly, Britain is not far behind - with only 1 homicide per 100,000 in the population (and Spain has higher levels of petty theft/pickpocketing - so honestly, I don't think you / your DH need to worry. I've lived in Japan (5 years), France (1 year) and New Zealand (1 year) as well as working for shorter periods in the US and Denmark. I very much liked all these places, but I really think the UK is one of the best places in the world to live. Culturally, it punches well above its weight, uni education is world class (though unfortunately you will now have to save to help support your DC if they decide that's the path they want to take). My family have had very serious health chronic health conditions and have received excellent - in fact, life saving - care from the NHS - for free (Preventative care and care for mental illness and minor conditions can be patchy unfortunately not so great, so I'd keep the private health care if I were you). Public transport not as good as Japan, but beats the pants off the US and NZ. For us, having kids was the deciding factor in coming home to the UK - NZ was fabulous - though low paid compared to the UK - but having made both sides of the family wait until we were in our forties before we provided a grandchild, it seemed a bit mean to both the child and grandparents to bring them up on the other side of the world! Lots of considerations, of course, but I really don't think the UK is 'F*cked" or that personal safety should be a major concern. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Hesrightofcourse · Yesterday 22:59

He's right, most major cities in the UK are being deliberately turned into shitholes by successive governments - the uniparty working together - and are now filled with unrest and misery. And they're importing adult males by the thousands every week from gross backwards countries who have very dodgy ideas about children and women's rights.

And let's not even start talking about the Pakistani rape gangs, which are still going strong.

If you live in a major city you can't see a doctor, can't get a hospital bed, can't see a dentist for months now.

Unless you're wealthy you'll struggle to afford a house as successive governments working against the indigenous people of the UK have brought in 15 million people in the last ten years. You'll be told not to use a hosepipe even though there has been no extra infrastructure put in place to accomodate the millions of "immigrants" they've imported.

And if you live in a village there's a good chance they might import many thousands of "immigrants" to outnumber the people of the village - and tell you you're racist if you dare complain.

Not that the msm ever reports on this. Oh, and the police just don't bother to turn up or add your complaint to their records now either, most of the time.

Oh, and you'll be arrested for saying hurty words on social media, but if you're Henry Novak you can be knifed to death in the street because some don't have to follow the same rules about not carrying knives - and they'll try to pretend that was ok because you were a racist (even though he wasn't, of course, a racist, and even though slaughtering someone is still not ok even if they speak words you don't like).

And if you're an elderly conservative female politician you can have your head bashed in by a loon for political reasons, and the msm will quietly bury the lead.

Stay away.

GoldenSandy · Yesterday 23:02

Chippednailtoepolish · Yesterday 15:30

We're white,

Immigration, safety, cost of living, quality of life...everything basically!

It always makes me laugh when Brits living abroad complain about immigration 😂 no self-awareness at all.