AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK? PART 2

[CoventryCity]

'Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK

UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.'

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

Previous thread here:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5568695-aibu-to-think-if-we-need-to-politely-ask-men-not-to-rape-women-or-men-then-we-dont-want-such-people-in-the-uk?page=40&reply=154338993&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

They are the same people who think TWAW. They think they're being kind: let's let loads of men from wartorn countries settle in the UK. And if some turn out to be rapists and criminals, never mind, it's only some of them and they get the warm fuzzy feeling of being kind while people in poorer neighbourhoods pay the price.

I think the issue as well, is that cause and effect comes into play, and since there has always been problems with drug use and homelessness, particularly in Glasgow, that's never gone away and it primarily impacts those in poverty. So when these issues arise those complaining are dismissed as ignorant, stupid and, essentially "racist" when actually it goes deeper than that. There probably are those within these groups who are racist, of course there are, but because they are looked down upon generally for being part of a poverty-stricken, working class, less educated background, any issues that genuinely arise that these groups are impacted by (such as what's happening in Glasgow) are immediately shut down.

Which ignores that there are issues that need to be looked at, not from a "racist!!!!" point of view, but for safety, wellbeing and dignity. Open drug dealing cannot continue. Sexual assaults and rapes cannot continue. Raising these issues is fair, and should not be shut down when the ethnicity or culture of those committing crimes is highlighted.

To be fair the documentary on BBC iPlayer at the moment called "Speechless" is pretty good, looks at the issues (primarily on American campuses) but it shows how polarised and shocking things are taken by those wishing to purify their views as the only correct, right ones and punish any dissent. I couldn't believe in one of the scenes in that documentary the way the students spoke to the Dean of the university. It was awful, I'd never have dreamt of doing that when I was at uni over 20 years ago. It was threatening, abusive and awful.

Says it all - we're not allowed to tell the truth. And the relatives of victims - shut down too. Its' scary stuff. At least the telegraph published the article highlighting it. Sadly few will see that.

Migrant crime wave cover-up must be stopped, say victims
Justice Secretary told the public has a right to know ‘full impact’ of immigration on crime

This should be acceptable -it's s just a newspaper article.

https://archive.ph/eihr8 archive link

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/25/migrant-crime-wave-cover-up-must-be-stopped-say-victims/

The problem is that this very real concerning issue has been hijacked by far right racists to the point that people comment laughing emojis (or worse) on articles where people have died making the crossing, so people are worried to join the debate for fear of being aligned with such views. this leaves the loudest voices as the objectionable ones and most people don’t want to be part of that debate.

Careful. You're giving yourself away 🙄

Oh, and I was being so subtle too! Awww shucks. . .

You're correct of course. That was earlier. There's been a shift of late - it's been getting too much to ignore, too many sex attacks in the news etc. And the people shouting 'racists!' have been found out. We all know it is not racist to be concerned about mass immigration of undocumented unknown young males. And even though UK plc won't publish the data - other countries have done and the results are damning.

And let us not forget, the government have published a booklet for the asylum seekers asking them not to rape the locals, and the government have said they won't accommodate asylum seekers next door to schools. So they have full on admitted there is a huge problem.

They just want to cover up the data. Why?

That’s true. Normal people are not in the business of hurling stuff outside asylum hotels, but are still worried and angry.

To be fair I think the loudest voices have always come from the left.

I come from a country, that is still suffering the impact of mass immigration of undocumented males, behaving in a lawless manner (particularly to the wimmens and children), seeking to impose their religion, culture, language, and laws, with no regard for the people already there. . . but's that's okay, because it was the Brits, right?

Yes, that's right sweetie.

They moved there and where did you move?

LOL, somewhat reluctantly. I guess, the moral of the story, could either be said to be 'what goes around, comes around', or perhaps, 'shit happens, and sometimes shit happens to you'.

Oooh, now that was a zinger!

MNHQ has now deleted the stats thread. The deletion message is intriguing.

So if some women get raped, too bad? Is that what you think? Hmmm.

I see so you move countries and have a go at others who did too.

Speechless!

That carpet must be bulging like crazy.

With all the stuff that’s being swept underneath it I mean.

I find MNHQ tends to err on the side of not deleting threads. So I wonder what the concerns are? I guess we will never know.

You can email or do a site stuff post if you can be bothered. I agree it’s nuts we can’t discuss a Telegraph article.

I've asked..

What are you on about? Where?