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AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK? PART 2

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CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 11:09

'Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK

UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.'

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

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EvelynBeatrice · Yesterday 11:18

NancyThompson · Yesterday 10:05

And the Brits emigrating will almost certainly skew wealthy and educated - lost to us now.

Depressing. I know of so
many - and keep hearing of more - young professional people who are working abroad and unlikely to come back to the UK. All are - or would have been - higher rate tax payers. Many medics. People we really can’t afford to lose.

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 11:20

GunnelVallquist · Yesterday 11:04

It would seem that way.

Baffling.

Or just stupid?

Planned with our total destruction in mind. They also hate women and want to remove our freedoms.

dustabsorber · Yesterday 11:24

Why does the LGBT community support Islam via the Greens? Surely, they will lose their freedoms as well.

mbosnz · Yesterday 11:25

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 11:20

Planned with our total destruction in mind. They also hate women and want to remove our freedoms.

Are we talking about American Republicans?

EasternStandard · Yesterday 11:27

mbosnz · Yesterday 11:25

Are we talking about American Republicans?

Read back the topic is pretty clear.

mbosnz · Yesterday 11:31

And yet, it would be so apt. . .

EasternStandard · Yesterday 11:32

mbosnz · Yesterday 11:31

And yet, it would be so apt. . .

There are Trump threads that way.. any view on the actual topic?

BubbleAndLeek · Yesterday 11:35

GunnelVallquist · Yesterday 11:04

It would seem that way.

Baffling.

Or just stupid?

I genuinely don't understand what they are on about. I'm really confused.

CoventryCity · Yesterday 11:43

I'm going to start a new thread on data cover up. hang on. I don't want it to be hidden in this one.

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EasternStandard · Yesterday 11:47

CoventryCity · Yesterday 11:43

I'm going to start a new thread on data cover up. hang on. I don't want it to be hidden in this one.

Thanks for these threads op, it’s clear so many are fed up and don’t want to be gaslit anymore. Good to see more agree on that rather than hounded off.

NancyThompson · Yesterday 11:51

GunnelVallquist · Yesterday 11:01

Did anyone hear about the protests in Scotland? (I’m sure it was Glasgow)

I saw part of it on the news yesterday.

Yes, Glasgow has big problems just now. They have the highest UK number of supported asylum seekers. Rape is 43% up since 2021, and there's a dispersal zone active in the city centre (for all the good that's doing).
That aside, there's the knock on effect where people can't get social housing as those with asylum backgrounds are inevitably identified as most "in need", and then huge, rapid demographic shifts in areas with high percentages of social housing.

NancyThompson · Yesterday 11:51

mbosnz · Yesterday 11:25

Are we talking about American Republicans?

Not on this thread, no.

CoventryCity · Yesterday 11:55

NancyThompson · Yesterday 11:51

Yes, Glasgow has big problems just now. They have the highest UK number of supported asylum seekers. Rape is 43% up since 2021, and there's a dispersal zone active in the city centre (for all the good that's doing).
That aside, there's the knock on effect where people can't get social housing as those with asylum backgrounds are inevitably identified as most "in need", and then huge, rapid demographic shifts in areas with high percentages of social housing.

I was going to write 'unbelievable' but it's not anymore is it

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MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 11:58

Someone linked to Katy Lam MP’s private member’s bill asking for crime statistics. No doubt this bill will be “talked out” or somehow squashed but it would be good to draw attention to it on a “statistics” thread.

HagsRule · Yesterday 12:01

CoventryCity · Yesterday 11:55

I was going to write 'unbelievable' but it's not anymore is it

Re. Glasgow - there is currently a Disclosure programme about it on BBC iPlayer. It does tend to suggest that the people complaining about the rise in open drug dealing and drug usage in the city centre (drug dealers are primarily migrants or are using children to do it) as being "racist". The presenter does try his best to show the issues but sadly it becomes very "us and them" again without exploring the problems in depth. I'd say the problems are clear to see, it's a difficult one as Glasgow has always had issues with homelessness and drugs but I think openly dealing (with the dealers being migrants) is a new thing and causing lots of problems, and there is a big rise in sexual assaults (including rape) too. The presenter touches on it but it just makes it sound like there is some far right uprising, when I think it's more nuanced than that. I disagree with far right stuff btw, as well as far left, I think less shouting and reactionary stuff would be better but the government just doesn't want to face up to things sadly.

It's called Disclosure: welcome to Glasgow for those interested.

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5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 12:06

GunnelVallquist · Yesterday 11:08

The thing that gets me is that surely people over here who read and see the news would have known for a while what went on in my home country, in Germany (the Cologne incident all the way back in 2015)…but yet they don’t stop and think ‘Hang on, do we really want this here?’

No, despite being a few years behind and having the benefit of knowing what’s coming, they fully embrace it.

Shouting down anyone who dares to point out that it might not be such a great idea.

Why? What do they gain?

And especially if they’re women.

They exist in a bubble. They are mainly middle-class so insulated from the reality of living in multicultural neighbourhoods or next door to an HMO. They cling to the big bag of progressive ideas because it's their identity and they are part of a group that all thinks the same. No deviation of thought is allowed otherwise they might get cast out of the group.

Their identity as good-rbinkers matters more than anything.

Govt and institutions are made up of these people.

CoventryCity · Yesterday 12:07

HagsRule · Yesterday 12:01

Re. Glasgow - there is currently a Disclosure programme about it on BBC iPlayer. It does tend to suggest that the people complaining about the rise in open drug dealing and drug usage in the city centre (drug dealers are primarily migrants or are using children to do it) as being "racist". The presenter does try his best to show the issues but sadly it becomes very "us and them" again without exploring the problems in depth. I'd say the problems are clear to see, it's a difficult one as Glasgow has always had issues with homelessness and drugs but I think openly dealing (with the dealers being migrants) is a new thing and causing lots of problems, and there is a big rise in sexual assaults (including rape) too. The presenter touches on it but it just makes it sound like there is some far right uprising, when I think it's more nuanced than that. I disagree with far right stuff btw, as well as far left, I think less shouting and reactionary stuff would be better but the government just doesn't want to face up to things sadly.

It's called Disclosure: welcome to Glasgow for those interested.

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Thanks, I'll look at that.

It's always been the way to manage discontent and views they don't like hasn't it - shut down concerns with Racist! accusations. Thankfully we're getting over that now. Much like we did the issues we had saying biological sex is real.

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CoventryCity · Yesterday 12:08

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 12:06

They exist in a bubble. They are mainly middle-class so insulated from the reality of living in multicultural neighbourhoods or next door to an HMO. They cling to the big bag of progressive ideas because it's their identity and they are part of a group that all thinks the same. No deviation of thought is allowed otherwise they might get cast out of the group.

Their identity as good-rbinkers matters more than anything.

Govt and institutions are made up of these people.

Absolutely

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CoventryCity · Yesterday 12:09

CoventryCity · Yesterday 11:43

I'm going to start a new thread on data cover up. hang on. I don't want it to be hidden in this one.

Obviously our cute spies saw this comment and hunted my new thread down with immediate action..

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5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 12:24

HagsRule · Yesterday 12:01

Re. Glasgow - there is currently a Disclosure programme about it on BBC iPlayer. It does tend to suggest that the people complaining about the rise in open drug dealing and drug usage in the city centre (drug dealers are primarily migrants or are using children to do it) as being "racist". The presenter does try his best to show the issues but sadly it becomes very "us and them" again without exploring the problems in depth. I'd say the problems are clear to see, it's a difficult one as Glasgow has always had issues with homelessness and drugs but I think openly dealing (with the dealers being migrants) is a new thing and causing lots of problems, and there is a big rise in sexual assaults (including rape) too. The presenter touches on it but it just makes it sound like there is some far right uprising, when I think it's more nuanced than that. I disagree with far right stuff btw, as well as far left, I think less shouting and reactionary stuff would be better but the government just doesn't want to face up to things sadly.

It's called Disclosure: welcome to Glasgow for those interested.

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The BBC have been terrible on this issue and many others. They can only see it as migrants = victims = good and anyone saying anything different is racist and far right.

This is our public broadcaster that we all pay for.

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 12:25

The thread on statistics has been hidden :(

GunnelVallquist · Yesterday 12:26

NancyThompson · Yesterday 11:51

Yes, Glasgow has big problems just now. They have the highest UK number of supported asylum seekers. Rape is 43% up since 2021, and there's a dispersal zone active in the city centre (for all the good that's doing).
That aside, there's the knock on effect where people can't get social housing as those with asylum backgrounds are inevitably identified as most "in need", and then huge, rapid demographic shifts in areas with high percentages of social housing.

Is Glasgow one of those ‘sanctuary cities’?

EmeraldRoulette · Yesterday 12:26

I’m amazed that this is still up
I would be prepared for it to go.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 12:27

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 12:25

The thread on statistics has been hidden :(

How it must feel as the victims’ families to see censorship. Hopefully it’s temporary.

GunnelVallquist · Yesterday 12:33

HagsRule · Yesterday 12:01

Re. Glasgow - there is currently a Disclosure programme about it on BBC iPlayer. It does tend to suggest that the people complaining about the rise in open drug dealing and drug usage in the city centre (drug dealers are primarily migrants or are using children to do it) as being "racist". The presenter does try his best to show the issues but sadly it becomes very "us and them" again without exploring the problems in depth. I'd say the problems are clear to see, it's a difficult one as Glasgow has always had issues with homelessness and drugs but I think openly dealing (with the dealers being migrants) is a new thing and causing lots of problems, and there is a big rise in sexual assaults (including rape) too. The presenter touches on it but it just makes it sound like there is some far right uprising, when I think it's more nuanced than that. I disagree with far right stuff btw, as well as far left, I think less shouting and reactionary stuff would be better but the government just doesn't want to face up to things sadly.

It's called Disclosure: welcome to Glasgow for those interested.

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Thank you, I’ll also check it out.