AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK? PART 2

[CoventryCity]

'Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK

UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.'

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

Previous thread here:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5568695-aibu-to-think-if-we-need-to-politely-ask-men-not-to-rape-women-or-men-then-we-dont-want-such-people-in-the-uk?page=40&reply=154338993&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

@NullaEffugium then we can look at Sweden. Two thirds of rapes are carried out by either first or second generation immigrants.
https://portal.research.lu.se/en/activities/nearly-two-thirds-of-convicted-rapists-in-sweden-are-migrants-or-/

In Paris, 77% of street (ie stranger) rapes are carried out by foreign nationals. This link describes it as "misleading" but despite their attempts to debunk that, those are indeed the figures that they themselves admit to
www.misbar.com/en/editorial/2024/07/12/misleading-anti-immigrants-claims-regarding-sexual-crimes-in-france

@NullaEffugium

And then there was the Cologne incident

" Approximately 1,200 women were reported to have been sexually assaulted, especially in the city of Cologne. In many of the incidents, while these women were in public spaces, they were surrounded and assaulted by large groups of men who were identified by officials as men of North African and Arab origin.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults

They are shocking cases and our Home Office has clearly been compromised by staff with an anti British, anti Christian agenda.

We shouldn’t be surprised, some senior Muslim leaders (and I’m not aware of any dissent from the other Muslim leaders) have been clear about their intentions to impose Islam and Sharia law on us and our current government are very keen to facilitate them. My only question is, why?

Exactly. You appear to be trying to claim that some tiny and extremely niche Christian groups have abhorrent practices in an attempt to wave away the behaviour of a very large and very present group. Or have I misunderstood you?

Yes, I think this incident alerted a lot of people to what was happening. And people who had previously been welcoming towards migrants started to realise the safe, stable country which they had so taken for granted was under attack.

In Paris I've never been scared of the actual French people. They might be a bit rude, or direct or brush you off but that's it. Look at who does all the crime, runs all the scams and who the pickpockets are.

There was a poster once who just called it a "freak event" and wasn't reflective of what it's truly like in Germany

Whatabout the army, whatabout Christians, whatabout catholics.

Probably the same people who didn't believe rape took place on 7th October.

Yes, Islam is an expansionist religion. That can't really be denied. But politicians on both sides court the Muslim vote so they allow sectarianism to flourish. But they don't realise they're playing with fire.

The Greens are the pits. Look at that Spencer individual prancing around in Gorton & Denton - like the Muslim community there respected her. And the shady Mothin Ali lurking in the background with a burqa-clad wife.

The Greens want to repeal the ability to hold arrested suspected terrorists for longer than normal suspects, and no doubt want to make migrants not liable for any crime committed.

I think the colonge assaults and various reporting of it was a big wake up call for me.

I wonder if this got investigated this is very worrying isn't it !
Deeply worrying and one wonders what the hell has been going on and just how powerful these behind the scenes influences are.

I imagine there was a strong loyal element to the closing of ranks but we can't forget that many women are married into uk families and often have very little English at all. I wonder how many such women understand the laws of our land and infact their own freedoms
The men come with their own fiefdoms and it's ingrained that what they say goes and this is backed up with sharia laws ,culture and segregation within the religion .
Added to all these controls women are often arranged marriaged to cousins which has been called out before as a form of unescapable control.
Layer upon layer of control and then commity elders who speak for them and so on .
That leaflet that went out really needs to be rolled out in schools and onto all commuties because we very much operate a two maybe three tier of freedoms in the UK.
It seems we think that some women don't need to have the same freedoms we do.

Fabians! Changing culture and society by stealth - only it's not so stealthy any more.

A leaflet!

If that's how they are going to live there is absolutely no reason for us to provide them with space to do it in Britain.

Yet they frequently quote the horrors of the handmaid's tale on MN! Hypocritical cowards.

People hate Christians. Other religions teach and promote hatred of Christians. Communists hate Christians. Christians are killed and imprisoned every day because of their belief. Millions were deliberately killed under communist rule last century. Churches are being burned across the Western world. Europe's institutions were founded on Christianity. People on this very forum absolutely despise it and teach their children to despise and reject it.

I hope they enjoy the substitute. I hope they think it was all worth it.

Like the armed forces of the west that went to Afghanistan and massively improved the situation for women there while they were in charge you mean?
I know that's not actually WHY they were there but the effect of their presence is undeniable.

As soon as they withdrew the Taliban took over and turned the country back into a misogynistic shit hole.

But yes, western men are just as bad and would immediately roll over and join in being rapists and paedophiles because simply being there is just the green light they were all waiting for.
Except that's not what happened.

I had assumed this was the point tbh. Give the middle class lefty NIMBYS a taste and see how their liberal values stand up when it's their daughters in the firing line. I'm just surprised at a Labour Prime Minister coming up with it.
But maybe there's another agenda here. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Not one person on this thread has suggested that halting illegal immigration would result in zero rapes but nice strawman there.
All you have done here is show that you do not understand how safeguarding works.

If people need to be told not to rape women then surely these are the kind of people we can do without.

We are already doing this

May I introduce you to the paragraph?

A vast majority of the so called men shouting and screaming outside hotels have been proven to have dv convictions.

And how was this proven?