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AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK? PART 2

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CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 11:09

'Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK

UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.'

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

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NancyThompson · 25/08/2026 15:21

Smeuse · 25/08/2026 15:19

One who discloses their ties to a political party and their political intentions.

That's transparency, not bias. You've not answered the question.

EasternStandard · 25/08/2026 15:25

Smeuse · 25/08/2026 15:19

One who discloses their ties to a political party and their political intentions.

Anything on what was untrue in the article?

LuckyHazelFox · 25/08/2026 15:26

NancyThompson · 25/08/2026 15:21

That's transparency, not bias. You've not answered the question.

It's just back to the obligatory Reform are responsible for scaremongering. I mean, if Reform are doing that, what political affiliates are telling women culture isn't the problem? These excuses are so paper then. Wonder what's coming next after our military has now taken a bashing.

Whammyammy · 25/08/2026 15:30

Simple answer. If you have to remind men from a certain background not to rape the local women and children, then should you be allowing entry?

smallglassbottle · 25/08/2026 15:34

I wonder who the people are that are arguing against logic and the things that are very obvious to see (the very unfortunate are experiencing them first hand).

I watched a YouTube interview with Dr Gavin Ashenden last night. He was the late Queen's former chaplain, now converted to Roman Catholicism. His observations were sobering. Due to their religious/political ideology, people who follow islam are fully committed to 'acquiring' countries. It's happened to all the countries they've moved into. Spain took 700 years to expel them. The west is now being handed over to them for ? reasons.

Our government are facilitating this. They are happy to throw women and girls under the bus. They are happy to label anyone who objects 'far right'. They are happy to use whatever resources are needed to meet the needs of the people entering, whilst denying help to our own citizens. They do not care if we die.

5MinuteArgument · 25/08/2026 15:38

Whammyammy · 25/08/2026 15:30

Simple answer. If you have to remind men from a certain background not to rape the local women and children, then should you be allowing entry?

Yes, they don't have to be here. We don't have to accept them. The sensible thing is that anyone who poses such a risk should be kept out. We do have to have an army to protect us from hostile states.

But we don't have to have thousands of military aged young males from other countries rocking up on our shores and telling us we have to house, feed, clothe them, provide them with buses to the nearest town, mobiles and data, healthcare, dentists, sports facilities and entertainment. All funded by us.

Whammyammy · 25/08/2026 15:45

5MinuteArgument · 25/08/2026 15:38

Yes, they don't have to be here. We don't have to accept them. The sensible thing is that anyone who poses such a risk should be kept out. We do have to have an army to protect us from hostile states.

But we don't have to have thousands of military aged young males from other countries rocking up on our shores and telling us we have to house, feed, clothe them, provide them with buses to the nearest town, mobiles and data, healthcare, dentists, sports facilities and entertainment. All funded by us.

Totally agree. But someone will be along in a minute to accuse you of being right wing or racist for not wanting rapists on our streets or that British men rape too.
I fear that if nothing changes, we will witness awful events more often

5MinuteArgument · 25/08/2026 15:52

smallglassbottle · 25/08/2026 15:34

I wonder who the people are that are arguing against logic and the things that are very obvious to see (the very unfortunate are experiencing them first hand).

I watched a YouTube interview with Dr Gavin Ashenden last night. He was the late Queen's former chaplain, now converted to Roman Catholicism. His observations were sobering. Due to their religious/political ideology, people who follow islam are fully committed to 'acquiring' countries. It's happened to all the countries they've moved into. Spain took 700 years to expel them. The west is now being handed over to them for ? reasons.

Our government are facilitating this. They are happy to throw women and girls under the bus. They are happy to label anyone who objects 'far right'. They are happy to use whatever resources are needed to meet the needs of the people entering, whilst denying help to our own citizens. They do not care if we die.

Yes, it's become a huge industry. How many politicians have shares in Serco, Mears or Clearspring? Who is funding the charities and lawyers who work tirelessly to enable criminals to enter and stay in our country? Does the government care that we might be importing jihadis and the most fundamentalist versions of Islam?

The whole thing is a racket. At least people are starting to see through it now.

CoventryCity · 25/08/2026 15:52

Ladyfromthehill · 25/08/2026 13:08

WOnder if OP is going to comment on this?
"The 2015 British Ministry of Defence poster campaign aimed to educate military personnel on sexual consent and reduce sexual offenses. Preventive education targets specific groups to set clear behavioural standards, and public reactions often depend on the context of the campaign and the demographic involved"

Dealt with on Thread 1. Take a look. See what you think. Have fun.

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CoventryCity · 25/08/2026 15:53

5MinuteArgument · 25/08/2026 15:52

Yes, it's become a huge industry. How many politicians have shares in Serco, Mears or Clearspring? Who is funding the charities and lawyers who work tirelessly to enable criminals to enter and stay in our country? Does the government care that we might be importing jihadis and the most fundamentalist versions of Islam?

The whole thing is a racket. At least people are starting to see through it now.

Yes 100%

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5MinuteArgument · 25/08/2026 15:53

Whammyammy · 25/08/2026 15:45

Totally agree. But someone will be along in a minute to accuse you of being right wing or racist for not wanting rapists on our streets or that British men rape too.
I fear that if nothing changes, we will witness awful events more often

Yes, that much is certain. What will be the end result is anyone's guess.

CoventryCity · 25/08/2026 16:03

smallglassbottle · 25/08/2026 15:34

I wonder who the people are that are arguing against logic and the things that are very obvious to see (the very unfortunate are experiencing them first hand).

I watched a YouTube interview with Dr Gavin Ashenden last night. He was the late Queen's former chaplain, now converted to Roman Catholicism. His observations were sobering. Due to their religious/political ideology, people who follow islam are fully committed to 'acquiring' countries. It's happened to all the countries they've moved into. Spain took 700 years to expel them. The west is now being handed over to them for ? reasons.

Our government are facilitating this. They are happy to throw women and girls under the bus. They are happy to label anyone who objects 'far right'. They are happy to use whatever resources are needed to meet the needs of the people entering, whilst denying help to our own citizens. They do not care if we die.

Turkey has been taken over now really by strict Islamism. And that is the issue - not reasonable balanced Muslims, it's the extremists, the men, using Islam to supress women and any other religion. I was at an airport gate in Frankfurt, thought it was to Saudi or similar, all women in burkas. Then I realised it was to Turkey. To think the land used to be part Greek, it is part of Europe in name only. Hopefully the rest of Europe can hold off.

The world-famous Hagia Sophia museum in Istanbul - originally founded as a cathedral - has been turned back into a mosque.

Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced the decision after a court annulled the site's museum status.
Built 1,500 years ago as an Orthodox Christian cathedral, Hagia Sophia was converted into a mosque after the Ottoman conquest in 1453.
In 1934 it became a museum and is now a Unesco World Heritage site.
Islamists in Turkey long called for it to be converted to a mosque but secular opposition members opposed the move. The proposal prompted criticism from religious and political leaders worldwide.
Defending the decision, President Erdogan stressed that the country had exercised its sovereign right in converting it back to a mosque.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53366307

A woman wrapped in a Turkish national flag gestures outside the Hagia Sophia museum on July 10, 2020 in Istanbul as people gather to celebrate after a top Turkish court revoked the sixth-century Hagia Sophia"s status as a museum, clearing the way for i...

Hagia Sophia: Turkey turns iconic Istanbul museum into mosque

President Erdogan reopens Istanbul's Hagia Sophia to Muslim worship, after a court ruling.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53366307

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LuckyHazelFox · 25/08/2026 16:10

CoventryCity · 25/08/2026 15:52

Dealt with on Thread 1. Take a look. See what you think. Have fun.

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Well said x

LuckyHazelFox · 25/08/2026 16:14

Nuthatch26 · 25/08/2026 16:07

So they don't show the same loyalty to the useful idiots who support Turkey's culture. When will they ever learn.

CoventryCity · 25/08/2026 16:14

Nuthatch26 · 25/08/2026 16:07

Muslims don't like homosexuals. It's like a gay cruise trying to dock in Palestine / Saudi / Pakistan / Iran. People don't realise Turkey is not like the rest of Europe anymore. It's like going to Dubai on holiday I imagine. Sanitised.

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Nuthatch26 · 25/08/2026 16:16

LuckyHazelFox · 25/08/2026 16:14

So they don't show the same loyalty to the useful idiots who support Turkey's culture. When will they ever learn.

Indeed.
They would be welcome in Israel though. Oh the irony eh!

LuckyHazelFox · 25/08/2026 16:17

Nuthatch26 · 25/08/2026 16:16

Indeed.
They would be welcome in Israel though. Oh the irony eh!

Oh yes great point ❤️

CoventryCity · 25/08/2026 16:18

Nuthatch26 · 25/08/2026 16:07

A cruise ship carrying 2,000 LGBTQ+ passengers and the Broadway performer Patti LuPone has been blocked from entering Turkey after local authorities said their behaviour didn’t “align with the structure of our society and our moral values”.

Well. Wouldn't you know it. If only we did the same with the migrant boats entering UK waters.

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Nuthatch26 · 25/08/2026 16:18

CoventryCity · 25/08/2026 16:14

Muslims don't like homosexuals. It's like a gay cruise trying to dock in Palestine / Saudi / Pakistan / Iran. People don't realise Turkey is not like the rest of Europe anymore. It's like going to Dubai on holiday I imagine. Sanitised.

Yep. Yet the so called progressives support this. Why? I don't get it.

GunnelVallquist · 25/08/2026 16:22

Nuthatch26 · 25/08/2026 16:18

Yep. Yet the so called progressives support this. Why? I don't get it.

They’re just stupid. Plain and simple.

And yes, great point about Israel.

CoventryCity · 25/08/2026 16:22

Nuthatch26 · 25/08/2026 16:16

Indeed.
They would be welcome in Israel though. Oh the irony eh!

The weird thing is pro pal people know that, but ignore it. 'Queers for Palestine' etc. Like they know the Hamas charter calls for the total destruction of Israel (aka genocide) and people who don't believe in Islam. Extraordinary. Shows what we're dealing with though. Total lack of logic and critical thinking - and or total misogyny and greed - like the main issue on this thread.

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EasternStandard · 25/08/2026 16:33

Nuthatch26 · 25/08/2026 16:18

Yep. Yet the so called progressives support this. Why? I don't get it.

A lot of it is just regressive

LuckyHazelFox · 25/08/2026 16:43

Just about to finish watching Pan Am Lockerbie on Netflix. Absolutely brilliant and great acting. Nothing has changed with the Middle East since then.

Windsurf · 25/08/2026 16:53

Alonglife · 24/08/2026 23:18

Finally we are able to share our worries as women... I am foreign and not even having a British passport to vote. But I have daughters who are automatically British and wonder what kind of world I am going to leave them into......

The world foreigners created.

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