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Stopping the boats is easy...

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titbumwillypoo · 22/08/2026 15:47

All we have to do is abandon the ECHR, the Refugee Convention, the UN, the G7, NATO and the WTO. Then we can break maritime law and start sinking the boats. Obviously we'd have to proscribe the RNLI and change the job description of the coast guard to encourage people who want to sink boats to sign up. The fishermen will be fine.
Once we start with this deterrent we can start kicking out other undesirables. I'd start with the students. Coming over here using our universities as a gateway to benefits street. So we ban them, no more student visas. We might see a few universities close but no great loss, you learn more in the school of life.
After that take away access to ALL benefits for anyone not born here. Don't care if you've always worked and paid your taxes you're not ENGERLISH so less Dr Khalid more Dr Callum.
Obviously once we start making Britain Great again there may be a couple of teensy issues. Food might cost a lot more because the lefty EU might not want to trade with a nation that wants to isolate itself and kill innocent people. It'll be fine because there will be 100% employment because instead of benefits you'll have to do your 60 hours on the food farm to earn your pound credits.
Family will be legally obliged to look after any living relative as there won't be anyone left to do it because we deported them all. And obviously the NHS was full of loony lefties who went round caring for people instead of focusing on what really mattered, which is profit.
They're just a couple of the benefits of stopping the boats, because who cares about the bigger picture or unintended consequences eh?
Giving up our place on the world stage is a small price to pay for stopping a handful of people coming from countries we benefited from or bombed isn't it?

OP posts:
NotAnotherScarf · 22/08/2026 21:36

Cel77 · 22/08/2026 21:32

Claiming asylum.is NOT a crime. You'd probably try to save your skin too if you came from a country with harsh laws against anyone seen as not conforming to the norm.

Fully agree...then why if it's so dangerous are the majority arriving here young men? Remember the Kinder Transport... people doing everything to send their children to safety. If these countries are dangerous why aren't they bringing their wives, mother's, sisters, the old and infirm...you know the weak who are easiest to abuse, rape and torture.

Why are the boats filled with men who have paid thousands to leave a perfectly safe country?

Parker231 · 22/08/2026 21:37

TheContinent · 22/08/2026 21:31

I follow foreign media....everything in the UK is a total talk all over the world. People are in total disbelief....

I don’t live in the UK. The UK isn’t the talk of the rest of the world. Most people are primarily only interested in their own country

Cel77 · 22/08/2026 21:37

Brazillas · 22/08/2026 21:35

We can change the law to make it so.

They are fleeing a very safe country (France). I often take day trips to Paris on the train. It's a lovely place to be. Many countries don't have a right to asylum laws.

What is the actual problem with claiming asylum for you?

TheContinent · 22/08/2026 21:38

NotAnotherScarf · 22/08/2026 21:07

The reason they haven't is because of threads like this. People putting up perfectly accurate and reasoned arguments are branded as idiots, uneducated... I've been called that at least twice in the thread. Therefore, the "chattering classes" that form the backbone on political discussion in the UK...that north London elite that encompasses both Labour and Tory "policy makers" believe that it's only a small minority of stupid white people....that's old stupid white people btw. Are the ones who are bleating on about the issue.

Until only a few months ago forums like mn would ban you for being anti immigration. Social media is full of loud people who believe they are completely correct and immigration of any type is good and anyone who says anything is a racist. Therefore fewer people say anything because they don't want to be seen as racist as even celebrating st George's day is racist don't you know.

Plus people live in complete echo chambers... because I am to the right, I've returned here because my YouTube feed is full of depressing right wing propaganda of how the country is falling apart...how islam is taking over... how the left are crushing free speech. Which is bollocks but I know university educated people who have believed complete bullshit "it's a fact, I saw it on YouTube".

Therefore, despite Brexit clearly sending a message that a lot of people are sick of open boarders...the two main parties do not seem to be able to read the room that reform has grown from nothing to have more members than the Tory parties, to be doing well at the polls and only losing by elections because of tactical voting.

I mean, why sharing well informed political opinion comes with the term racist. I see Black woman like Kemmy wanting to stop the boats and not having black and brown unchecked men in the country. Is she racist as well???

LuckyHazelFox · 22/08/2026 21:39

TheContinent · 22/08/2026 21:38

I mean, why sharing well informed political opinion comes with the term racist. I see Black woman like Kemmy wanting to stop the boats and not having black and brown unchecked men in the country. Is she racist as well???

She's called worse than racist.

Brazillas · 22/08/2026 21:40

Cel77 · 22/08/2026 21:37

What is the actual problem with claiming asylum for you?

I've seen the danger and crimes they commit. Enough is enough. We decide who comes and goes and we have every right to say no. No illegal migrants.

TheContinent · 22/08/2026 21:40

LuckyHazelFox · 22/08/2026 21:39

She's called worse than racist.

Probably because she is a Christian on top and vocal about it. And the idea is to completely erase this from this once great country

TheContinent · 22/08/2026 21:42

I also am Christian and follow various programs but too, got fed up with men using fake christian label on top of their nationalism, predict a civil war here every new monday and make Ai videos of lies

LuckyHazelFox · 22/08/2026 21:42

TheContinent · 22/08/2026 21:40

Probably because she is a Christian on top and vocal about it. And the idea is to completely erase this from this once great country

You got it!

ThatJadeLion · 22/08/2026 21:43

People defending illegal immigration probably haven't seen the impact on where they live yet. The place where I grew up is unrecognisable. I wouldn't take my daughter to the nearest city where I live now.

TheContinent · 22/08/2026 21:44

Women of faith or no faith and colour or white are correctly worried about themselves and their daughters and now old fathers !!! - I mean how the government does not take this seriously but keeps doing exactly the opposite of what the people want?

Theworldsgonemadagain · 22/08/2026 21:47

Of course it can be done if we have a government that genuinely wants to stop it. A quick Google search will explain how the Aussies did it with great success. We follow their example. Job done.

'Australia stopped unauthorized maritime arrivals by implementing Operation Sovereign Borders—a strict, military-led border protection policy introduced in 2013. The strategy combined turning back vessels at sea, mandatory offshore processing, and denying permanent settlement to anyone who arrived by boat.

Key Policy Components
Turn-backs at Sea: Naval and border protection vessels intercept unauthorized boats and safely redirect them back toward their point of departure or Indonesia, using specialized lifeboats when necessary.

Offshore Processing: Asylum seekers intercepted at sea are transferred to detention and processing camps on remote Pacific island nations like Nauru and Papua New Guinea rather than the Australian mainland.
No Permanent Resettlement: Under strict 2013 legislative changes, any refugee who attempts to reach Australia by boat is barred from ever obtaining permanent residency in the country.
Unified Command: The government centralized the military, coast guard, and immigration departments into a single coordinated operational framework to remove bureaucratic delays.
Deterrence Messaging: The strict rules were paired with public campaigns aimed at destroying the business model of people-smuggling networks by proving there was zero chance of successful illegal migration

TheContinent · 22/08/2026 21:47

Parker231 · 22/08/2026 21:37

I don’t live in the UK. The UK isn’t the talk of the rest of the world. Most people are primarily only interested in their own country

Not true. Intelligent people now read global news. From what you are saying I assume you are not foreign because what is it you are doing on a global English speaking website?

LuckyHazelFox · 22/08/2026 21:48

ThatJadeLion · 22/08/2026 21:43

People defending illegal immigration probably haven't seen the impact on where they live yet. The place where I grew up is unrecognisable. I wouldn't take my daughter to the nearest city where I live now.

They've seen it, they don't care because not being seen as racist is top of their priority list. They expect the rest of us to fall in line, then behave like children when we refuse to play ball.

NotAnotherScarf · 22/08/2026 21:48

TheContinent · 22/08/2026 21:38

I mean, why sharing well informed political opinion comes with the term racist. I see Black woman like Kemmy wanting to stop the boats and not having black and brown unchecked men in the country. Is she racist as well???

You are very clever to twist it like that. Chapeau. That's the whole point isn't, people to the left in favour of mass migration are sooooo much brighter than the rest of us.

If you actually read what I wrote, Kemmy's backroom "guys" are all of a muchness as Burnham's... people who have never actually had a real job. Believe what appears on tick tock is the zeitgeist and everything else is just the ranting of a small far right rabble of uneducated old men.

HolidayPlanningAgain · 22/08/2026 21:48

titbumwillypoo · 22/08/2026 15:47

All we have to do is abandon the ECHR, the Refugee Convention, the UN, the G7, NATO and the WTO. Then we can break maritime law and start sinking the boats. Obviously we'd have to proscribe the RNLI and change the job description of the coast guard to encourage people who want to sink boats to sign up. The fishermen will be fine.
Once we start with this deterrent we can start kicking out other undesirables. I'd start with the students. Coming over here using our universities as a gateway to benefits street. So we ban them, no more student visas. We might see a few universities close but no great loss, you learn more in the school of life.
After that take away access to ALL benefits for anyone not born here. Don't care if you've always worked and paid your taxes you're not ENGERLISH so less Dr Khalid more Dr Callum.
Obviously once we start making Britain Great again there may be a couple of teensy issues. Food might cost a lot more because the lefty EU might not want to trade with a nation that wants to isolate itself and kill innocent people. It'll be fine because there will be 100% employment because instead of benefits you'll have to do your 60 hours on the food farm to earn your pound credits.
Family will be legally obliged to look after any living relative as there won't be anyone left to do it because we deported them all. And obviously the NHS was full of loony lefties who went round caring for people instead of focusing on what really mattered, which is profit.
They're just a couple of the benefits of stopping the boats, because who cares about the bigger picture or unintended consequences eh?
Giving up our place on the world stage is a small price to pay for stopping a handful of people coming from countries we benefited from or bombed isn't it?

😂 I love a bit of satire on a Saturday night! Well done OP, shine a mirror on the idiots that believe the Grifter’s propaganda

TheContinent · 22/08/2026 21:52

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Theworldsgonemadagain · 22/08/2026 22:02

Of course we can leave the ECHR, we have the right as a sovereign nation to say who comes in and out of our country. Stop payment to France immediately, they do f all to stop them. Do what Australia does, if you come here by boat then you will never get any benefits or be granted citizenship. The truth is no government wants to stop immigrants coming over. The whole of Europe has had enough of mass migration hence many turning to right wing parties. It's a disgrace what the EU has done to Europe.

FatEndoftheWedge · 22/08/2026 22:05

Op you have obviously gone too far by suggesting we leave every organisation but we are not the only country to struggle with this issue.

Denmark has made in roads into cracking it.

It's not impossible with actual politcal will. The laws that are stopping us were created in a different time facing different problems
We need radical and fast updates to help us face the new world issues. Many lawyers are making a lot of money on the back of this n

I do feel we need to leave the ehcr though .

FatEndoftheWedge · 22/08/2026 22:16

Theworldsgonemadagain · 22/08/2026 21:47

Of course it can be done if we have a government that genuinely wants to stop it. A quick Google search will explain how the Aussies did it with great success. We follow their example. Job done.

'Australia stopped unauthorized maritime arrivals by implementing Operation Sovereign Borders—a strict, military-led border protection policy introduced in 2013. The strategy combined turning back vessels at sea, mandatory offshore processing, and denying permanent settlement to anyone who arrived by boat.

Key Policy Components
Turn-backs at Sea: Naval and border protection vessels intercept unauthorized boats and safely redirect them back toward their point of departure or Indonesia, using specialized lifeboats when necessary.

Offshore Processing: Asylum seekers intercepted at sea are transferred to detention and processing camps on remote Pacific island nations like Nauru and Papua New Guinea rather than the Australian mainland.
No Permanent Resettlement: Under strict 2013 legislative changes, any refugee who attempts to reach Australia by boat is barred from ever obtaining permanent residency in the country.
Unified Command: The government centralized the military, coast guard, and immigration departments into a single coordinated operational framework to remove bureaucratic delays.
Deterrence Messaging: The strict rules were paired with public campaigns aimed at destroying the business model of people-smuggling networks by proving there was zero chance of successful illegal migration

That all sounds fair enough surely ?

Whatalunatic · 22/08/2026 22:20

NotAnotherScarf · 22/08/2026 16:16

But they are in a safe country i.e. France so are not actually entertaining the country to claim asylum are they....there is nothing to stop them claiming asylum in France or any of the other equally prosperous and safe European countries they have passed through to get to France.

They are entering the UK as they believe they will get befits/housing/work not because they are in an unsafe country and need help.

Seriously? You think England is being targeted by illegal immigrants/asylum seekers/economic migrants by people with the exact intention of living on benefits? .

Have you ever been to a genuinely poor country, or one that is war torn or recently suffered a major natural disaster? Can you think just a little bit? That people traffickers tell desperate, unsuspecting families it will cost £X to get their young, reasonably healthy male a genuine visa to go to the UK/USA/Australia/Canada. That the male concerned is waved off, full of hope that the streets are paved with gold and some hard work will mean he will support his entire family? Only....the reality is squashed in cars/vans, no visa, no work permit and the trafficker took your passport. You don't want to disappoint your family so do what you have to do to enter. Or you're now a slave, doing as you're told, getting on a dinghy. If you lucky, you will get caught but you can't work. Eventually you'll probably be deported. Your family's debt acurred to send you in the first place will never get paid off.

People from these countries are not necessarily educated or clued up on the ways of the world. They just want a better life and don't necessarily understand how visas and permits work. They are easy to exploit.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/08/2026 22:21

Whatalunatic · 22/08/2026 22:20

Seriously? You think England is being targeted by illegal immigrants/asylum seekers/economic migrants by people with the exact intention of living on benefits? .

Have you ever been to a genuinely poor country, or one that is war torn or recently suffered a major natural disaster? Can you think just a little bit? That people traffickers tell desperate, unsuspecting families it will cost £X to get their young, reasonably healthy male a genuine visa to go to the UK/USA/Australia/Canada. That the male concerned is waved off, full of hope that the streets are paved with gold and some hard work will mean he will support his entire family? Only....the reality is squashed in cars/vans, no visa, no work permit and the trafficker took your passport. You don't want to disappoint your family so do what you have to do to enter. Or you're now a slave, doing as you're told, getting on a dinghy. If you lucky, you will get caught but you can't work. Eventually you'll probably be deported. Your family's debt acurred to send you in the first place will never get paid off.

People from these countries are not necessarily educated or clued up on the ways of the world. They just want a better life and don't necessarily understand how visas and permits work. They are easy to exploit.

Is that why they tear up their ID on arrival?

Owninterpreter · 22/08/2026 22:27

I dont think turning back at sea is easy as its turning them back to France who presumably will say non and thiers no international water between us.

We arent blessed with small Pacific islands to put detention centres on.

I dont really know what the other measures involve.

Brazillas · 22/08/2026 22:31

Thing is what happens if a boat is set out from UK waters and made to cross over the other way?

NotAnotherScarf · 22/08/2026 22:32

Whatalunatic · 22/08/2026 22:20

Seriously? You think England is being targeted by illegal immigrants/asylum seekers/economic migrants by people with the exact intention of living on benefits? .

Have you ever been to a genuinely poor country, or one that is war torn or recently suffered a major natural disaster? Can you think just a little bit? That people traffickers tell desperate, unsuspecting families it will cost £X to get their young, reasonably healthy male a genuine visa to go to the UK/USA/Australia/Canada. That the male concerned is waved off, full of hope that the streets are paved with gold and some hard work will mean he will support his entire family? Only....the reality is squashed in cars/vans, no visa, no work permit and the trafficker took your passport. You don't want to disappoint your family so do what you have to do to enter. Or you're now a slave, doing as you're told, getting on a dinghy. If you lucky, you will get caught but you can't work. Eventually you'll probably be deported. Your family's debt acurred to send you in the first place will never get paid off.

People from these countries are not necessarily educated or clued up on the ways of the world. They just want a better life and don't necessarily understand how visas and permits work. They are easy to exploit.

Long answer short. Yes. Many of them are carrying mobile phones, tablets and laptops and guess what....they are connected to the internet. And guess what they're googling!

So the " they is just poor dumb natives coming here to be educated by the mother country" is not only completely and utterly wrong it's also actually demeaning to the people coming.