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AIBU to feel my son is unfairly comparing support?

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Appleteeth · 22/08/2026 15:14

Hi all, first of all I want to make it clear I’m not by any means saying I have been a good mother to my son, or that he doesn’t have every right to resent me for that, I don’t want this to read as woe is me.

Background
I have 2 children they are 41 and 26, I had my first child at 21, he was for the most part raised by my mother, I was completing my nursing degree then doing shift work, I provided for him financially, took him on holiday etc, but I will admit my mother did the vast majority of the day to day care. When he was 11 he wanted to try and live with me and my then partner, he moved in for 6 months but was having problems at school, we then trialled by partner moving out, nothing improved and he insisted he wanted to go back to his grans. So he did, my partner then moved back in.
3 years later my partner and I had our daughter, her father then left and never returned when she was 6 so I raised her alone.

Lately my son has increasingly been talking about the the injustice of his childhood, how DD did more hobbies than him, how the only reason DD now owns a home is because she had more support.

  1. There was little in the way of financial disparity, actually I think my son got more money spent on him over all, he had a summer holiday every year, was taken abroad etc.
  2. He always had the most fashionable clothes and toys, my mother and I worked extremely hard to ensure this

Yes DD did more hobbies, but my son never actually wanted to as a child, and as a result the last time DD left the country for a family holiday in childhood she was 4, we didn’t do a single holiday between 4 and 11, not even a uk break. DDs birthday and Christmas gifts were often made up of whatever she needed for hobbies that year.

She did go on to go to university being the first in our family to do so, got married and now has children.

She owns a home but I had no involvement in this at all, she and her partner (who had been together since they were 14 saved, and received help from his family, I didn’t have any money to offer).

Now I’m mortgage free but not very high earning as I left nursing for my own health 20 years ago.

I make no difference in the gifts I give to my son’s children and my daughters. I pay for us all to go on holiday once a year (just a uk break).

My son also borrows money every month which he doesn’t always pay back in full but I’ve accepted this.

This afternoon my son came over and he was complaining that his sons didn’t have their proper PE kit and went back to school last week, I told him I don’t have anymore money to give him, he has already had £400 this month and still owes me money from last month.

He then went on a rant that he knows I spent more on my daughter’s children’s school shoes than I did on his sons. This is true but I didn’t do it deliberately, I told them both I could afford £50 per child on school shoes, DD bought her children shoes from start rite so she spent it all, he sent me a link to some shoes which were only £30, I ordered exactly what he sent me.

This then spiralled into me apparently loving my DDs children more than his! This isn’t true at all. I see DDs children a little more as she is in the same town as me and a walk away, I babysit them one day a week for 2 hours and they come over for dinner once a week. I see my son’s children once a week as he brings them over and I try to stop in and see them when I can but it’s a bus away and I’m still working. He also asks me not to come to his ok the weekend so the only option is either the day I already have DDs children or after work. I have offered him babysitting countless times and he always says no he will get his partners mum to do it.

I don’t know what to do?

AIBU to feel I’m not currently doing anything wrong even if in the past I did mess up in having my mum raise him?

Im open to advice!

OP posts:
ThisWiseRobin · 25/08/2026 11:03

nutbrownhare15 · 24/08/2026 11:09

This is more about his childhood than now. You are arguing about the technicalities and his heart is screaming about how he grew up. I would stop trying to argue back or rationalise what you do or don't do and focus on how you can repair your relationship and what he needs around that. Could you look at some family counselling.

and his heart is screaming about how he grew up.
Sorry its not his heart, it's his wallet. This is a pathetic self serving man child.
how many kids grow up in awful unloving surroundings and dont become manipulative adults.
he had a loving granny and whatever the situation its unchangeable now.

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 11:12

Appleteeth · 22/08/2026 15:20

Yes I’m not denying that, I regret my early choices deeply.
Once I finished my training, I took on a lot of shift work, my mum offered to have him and it was always intended to be temporary, it ended up continuing indefinitely which I’m not proud of.
However I can’t go back in time and change it, I can only try to make it fair now, which I feel like I’m doing, but if I’m not I want to know.

But making it fair now in his mind isnt equal. In his subconscious mind he has a debt of love, care, attention, money that he missed out from his childhood that his sister got. Making it the same now doesnt make up for the past.
without changing something or therapy or in someway acknowledging and making up for his crap childhood he is never going to “get over it”.

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 11:19

Appleteeth · 22/08/2026 15:27

He lashed out behaviour wise with me, which was understandable, we didn’t have a proper parent child bond and he had no respect for boundaries I placed. I tried moving my partner out first as I worried that was the issue but nothing improved it, it got actively worse including violence towards me and at school. He was the one who asked to go back to his grans.

Suggest you do some research into attachment Theory. He was abandoned by you, you took him back, he tested the boundary by being violent and you got rid of him again. My husband has an attachment disorder due to a tough childhood. He believes everyone will abandon him, its really common for people with poor attachment to try and lash out to make then other person leave them to prevent them from being hurt again. This can show as violence but its them hurt and wounded. The “get them before they get you”. I suggest you pay for counselling for both of you and if you want this to improve you need to focus on connection with your son and spending quality time with him (more time than you spend with your daughter).

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 11:22

Appleteeth · 22/08/2026 15:29

What do you think prioritising him should look like? Giving him more money when I don’t always have it? Most months he borrows £400-500 and only pays back about £300 most months.
Im happy to try this but what should prioritising him look like?

It looks like spending more time with him than DD. Making a big song and dance about how special he is. In a way its parenting him again and building a bond

nam3c4ang3 · 25/08/2026 11:24

Your son is a brat who is emotionally bullying you here - you CANT WIN, because he will ALWAYS come back to seeing it as you having favourites, let him think that, and stop compensating and giving him money ffs - hes a grown ass man - you are spoiling him. Stop.

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 11:26

Appleteeth · 22/08/2026 15:39

More of myself in what way? I’m sorry I’m failing to understand?

I have offered to babysit, he says no.
I’ve been told he doesn’t want me to come to his on the weekend, I work 4 days a week.

Should I stop babysitting DDs children so I can go see him on the one afternoon a week I have free, when that babysitting allows DD to work?
Like I’m happy to do this but I’m not understanding what you mean.

Yes. 100%. Offer to babysit his kids that one afternoon you have off. If you have one afternoon off and its given to your DD it shows him you again chose her.
even if he says no to you babysitting the fact you are willingly telling him you want to babysit and this means he comes before your DD says everything.
your DD can be like every other parent and get childcare

Nettie1964 · 25/08/2026 12:43

He needs to grow up get therepy or a helmet life is tough. You cant keep getting battered about the past. You have said sorry. I am sure you mean it. Know you know better you are doing better. Mumsnet is full of perfect mothers who have perfect lives. They would never commit such crimes against motherhood. Your son needs to get a grip he sounds pathetic.

namechangedasexpected · 25/08/2026 16:41

Your son is angry and a bully. It sounds to me like you did your best, he had a safe and loving home, and he is blaming your for his problems unfairly. Lots of people are brought up like he was - my dad for example was raised largely by his aunts.

Your son may have some problems stemming from his upbringing but at 40 plus he has been an adult longer than a child and its his responsibility now to process his shit and get it together. Instead he wants to blame you, wants money off you and your mum, and to do things simply to spite his sister. This is not adult behaviour however he was treated, and he probably needs some help- whether he will accept this is up to him.

Its time for you to take a step back because what you are all doing is not working and it will never work because he is holding onto his feelings for his own justification. Establish some boundaries and stop feeling so guilty. You will never do enough for him. A lot of water has gone under the bridge since he was a child, and you cannot change anything in the past. He is responsible for how he feels now - you can maybe help with therapy but he has to want to change and I don't think he does- this anger is working for him, and he does not care that he is upsetting you, your mum and potentially your sister.

Stop lending him money, and stop penalising his sister to try and make him happy. You already know it wont work. Tell him you are sorry he is hurt but a lot of what is saying is not actually true, that his behaviours are also hurtful and not acceptable and he need to manage his feeling more productively than lashing out and keeping imaginary scores.

HappyWelsh · 25/08/2026 19:37

namechangedasexpected · 25/08/2026 16:41

Your son is angry and a bully. It sounds to me like you did your best, he had a safe and loving home, and he is blaming your for his problems unfairly. Lots of people are brought up like he was - my dad for example was raised largely by his aunts.

Your son may have some problems stemming from his upbringing but at 40 plus he has been an adult longer than a child and its his responsibility now to process his shit and get it together. Instead he wants to blame you, wants money off you and your mum, and to do things simply to spite his sister. This is not adult behaviour however he was treated, and he probably needs some help- whether he will accept this is up to him.

Its time for you to take a step back because what you are all doing is not working and it will never work because he is holding onto his feelings for his own justification. Establish some boundaries and stop feeling so guilty. You will never do enough for him. A lot of water has gone under the bridge since he was a child, and you cannot change anything in the past. He is responsible for how he feels now - you can maybe help with therapy but he has to want to change and I don't think he does- this anger is working for him, and he does not care that he is upsetting you, your mum and potentially your sister.

Stop lending him money, and stop penalising his sister to try and make him happy. You already know it wont work. Tell him you are sorry he is hurt but a lot of what is saying is not actually true, that his behaviours are also hurtful and not acceptable and he need to manage his feeling more productively than lashing out and keeping imaginary scores.

This!!! These people who are siding with him are fucking insane! He’s a narcissistic prick who’s using excuses as a financial weapon, do you know what I think? He was spoiled rotten by both Nan and Mum. People are saying he feels abandoned? How? His mum was always in his life and she saw him most days, took him on holidays etc.

OP is being demonised in these comments, she’s actually receiving more hate than Lyndsey Clancy! Make it make fucking sense please 🙏🏼

ThreadGuardDog · 25/08/2026 21:29

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 11:26

Yes. 100%. Offer to babysit his kids that one afternoon you have off. If you have one afternoon off and its given to your DD it shows him you again chose her.
even if he says no to you babysitting the fact you are willingly telling him you want to babysit and this means he comes before your DD says everything.
your DD can be like every other parent and get childcare

Wow. All of this has completely gone over your head hasn’t it ?

ThreadGuardDog · 25/08/2026 21:30

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 11:22

It looks like spending more time with him than DD. Making a big song and dance about how special he is. In a way its parenting him again and building a bond

He doesn’t want time. He wants money. Can you not see that ?

ThreadGuardDog · 25/08/2026 21:33

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 11:19

Suggest you do some research into attachment Theory. He was abandoned by you, you took him back, he tested the boundary by being violent and you got rid of him again. My husband has an attachment disorder due to a tough childhood. He believes everyone will abandon him, its really common for people with poor attachment to try and lash out to make then other person leave them to prevent them from being hurt again. This can show as violence but its them hurt and wounded. The “get them before they get you”. I suggest you pay for counselling for both of you and if you want this to improve you need to focus on connection with your son and spending quality time with him (more time than you spend with your daughter).

Edited

OP should absolutely not pay for counselling for both of them and certainly not together. He’s her abuser and a counselling setting involving abuser and abused won’t be countenanced by any counsellor worth their salt. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

ThreadGuardDog · 25/08/2026 21:35

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 11:12

But making it fair now in his mind isnt equal. In his subconscious mind he has a debt of love, care, attention, money that he missed out from his childhood that his sister got. Making it the same now doesnt make up for the past.
without changing something or therapy or in someway acknowledging and making up for his crap childhood he is never going to “get over it”.

Sorry but this is utter codswallop.

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 23:12

ThreadGuardDog · 25/08/2026 21:35

Sorry but this is utter codswallop.

And in my opinion your view it utter codswallop. So agree to disagree

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 23:13

ThreadGuardDog · 25/08/2026 21:33

OP should absolutely not pay for counselling for both of them and certainly not together. He’s her abuser and a counselling setting involving abuser and abused won’t be countenanced by any counsellor worth their salt. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

I absolutely do have an idea what I am talking about. I believe you have no idea what you are talking about.

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 23:14

ThreadGuardDog · 25/08/2026 21:30

He doesn’t want time. He wants money. Can you not see that ?

I think you are looking at the issue from a superficial level. He is equating money with care because he doesnt know how to ask for time and care.

cestlavielife · 25/08/2026 23:18

Have you considered family therapy /mediation with your son?
Get a profesdional invokved to work with both of you

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 23:23

ThisWiseRobin · 25/08/2026 11:03

and his heart is screaming about how he grew up.
Sorry its not his heart, it's his wallet. This is a pathetic self serving man child.
how many kids grow up in awful unloving surroundings and dont become manipulative adults.
he had a loving granny and whatever the situation its unchangeable now.

Edited

at this stage the OP needs to decide whether she wants things to improve. Viewing her son as a man child, taking her money and behaving badly wont improve the situation.
the OP can out up boundaries and be firm, this will protect her and maybe her DD and maybe give her some peace but will further erode her relationship with her son.
if she wants her relationship with her son to improve then OP and her son need to resolve the feelings damage done from the sons perception of his childhood.
It doesnt matter if OP is right or wrong now, her son is feeling and acting based on his perception and feelings of the past.

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 23:26

ThreadGuardDog · 25/08/2026 21:29

Wow. All of this has completely gone over your head hasn’t it ?

Right back at you lovely!

ThreadGuardDog · 25/08/2026 23:30

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 23:13

I absolutely do have an idea what I am talking about. I believe you have no idea what you are talking about.

Over twenty years in professional disability support. Where there is a history of abusive behaviour no counsellor will engage in family therapy because it provides a setting for the abuser to manipulate and control the narrative. It’s the first rule of therapy. OP’s son is exercising coercive control over both his mother and grandmother and financially abusing them. There are clearly issues that warrant therapy but not together.

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 23:36

ThreadGuardDog · 25/08/2026 23:30

Over twenty years in professional disability support. Where there is a history of abusive behaviour no counsellor will engage in family therapy because it provides a setting for the abuser to manipulate and control the narrative. It’s the first rule of therapy. OP’s son is exercising coercive control over both his mother and grandmother and financially abusing them. There are clearly issues that warrant therapy but not together.

You are looking at the situation from one very narrow perspective

PretzelChoc · 25/08/2026 23:42

Wow, he's some piece of work.

He's using coercive control to make you give him money. And to make you feel bad for spending time with your dd and her family who clearly welcome you into their lives.

He won't allow you to see him or his kids at the weekend - who does that? Someone who doesn't respect you as a person. Someone who treats you with contempt. He's preying on your guilt about his upbringing and you don't deserve it.

He might not have lived with you, but he was clearly loved and cherished by both you and your mum. He has created a warped, narcissistic narrative about his sister, who I'm willing to bet feels a lot of hurt and loss at her brothers awful behaviour towards her & her family. What a tough situation for you to be in.

I think you need to stop giving him money immediately. You can't afford it. It's extremely unfair to your dd. He's stealing 200 pounds a month from you - 2400 per year. There may come a time when the money runs out and you're struggling l, and I'd bet my house that he won't give you a single penny.

Continue to offer your time as you have always done. Continue to pay for specific things for each family according to your budget. Continue to pay for a break with each family. But don't give him a penny more.

He'll ramp up the guilt trip massively. He'll be mean and spiteful. Remember that's on him, not you.

ThreadGuardDog · 25/08/2026 23:46

HannahSqan · 25/08/2026 23:36

You are looking at the situation from one very narrow perspective

He’s withholding access to his children until OP complies with his demands to see DD’s children less and to let her down with babysitting. That’s coercive control. He’s taking money from both OP and her mother and not paying it back before taking more. That’s financial abuse. He constantly compares how much OP is spending on DDs child as opposed to his own. He’s abusive. Therapy 101, you do not attend therapy with your abuser. That’s not a narrow perspective, that’s the reality.

Backpain2026 · Today 06:38

I've changed my mind. You are clearly never going to be able to make him happy, so don't try.

Just keep doing what you are doing, support your daughter, and don't let him upset you

Genevieva · Today 06:46

Bless you. Your son has a very distorted idea of what injustice means. It does not mean growing up in different circumstances. It does mean being treated differently before the law. He needs to focus on the positives. Even though his childhood wasn’t ideal, he had a granny and a Mum who loved him and listened to him. Maybe he needs counselling to realise this.