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To be upset about meat being cooked in my house

960 replies

Meetmeinlove · Yesterday 16:09

For context, I am 53 and a lifelong vegetarian. I have never cooked meat or eaten meat.

I was always clear with my kids that if they wanted to eat meat, it was their choice but it had to be out of the house. Put simply, I don’t want it in my house.

They both eat meat and I am ok with that.

But I came home and they have cooked it- used my wooden chopping board to cut it up. Left remnants on the worksurface.

i’m bloody upset and it feels so disrespectful frankly. It’s a real problem for me- I don’t want meat in my house- I have always been really clear about it.

aibu to be so upset about it? It’s a real problem for me.

OP posts:
Iocanepowder · Yesterday 17:19

thisismeithinkorisit · Yesterday 17:12

Where's the line tho?

It's their home so if they want to paint the living room black they can do? Invite 30 friends over a Monday night for a party? Invite random partners over to stay and have sex on the sofa? Take over ops bedroom and vote she gets the box room?

With the exception of not cleaning up properly though, this doesn’t really impact op like the other things would. This is a food that the DC just want to put in their own bodies and is legal.

Neuronimo · Yesterday 17:20

YANBU. Your house your rules, they should respect your boundaries.

Ammandaaa · Yesterday 17:20

I am a vegetarian, but I think you are being unreasonable to not let your children cook what they want in their own house. They should have cleaned up ofc but it’s their home too. You say you allow them to eat meat outside the house, but it’s really restrictive not to be able to cook a spag bol with mean on your own home or fry some bacon.

Iocanepowder · Yesterday 17:20

Dobeebeedah · Yesterday 17:19

On a barbeque or griddle outside away from the house.

yeah that’s practical.

piscesangel · Yesterday 17:21

Londonrach1 · Yesterday 17:18

Yabu. It's their home. However they should have a chopping board they can use and clean up after themselves.

Agree with this. The fixed stance about no meat in the house is now leading to conflict because there is no agreed provision for meat eaters - if you had a more open initial position you could set boundaries around separate chopping boards etc

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · Yesterday 17:21

custardbonbon · Yesterday 17:11

No, I don’t.

Carnivore species like cats have no molar teeth and cannot properly chew or digest plants.
Herbivore species like sheep have no sharp canine teeth and have dentition and a digestive tract optimised for digesting plant matter.
Omnivores have both canine teeth and molars and can digest both meat and plant foods.
Humans are evolved as omnivores and we need a variety of foods to be healthy. If a human tried to have an actually carnivorous diet eating no plant matter they would be very unhealthy. It is possible to eat a healthy vegetarian diet, as long as it is varied enough to get a full range of amnio acids from different sources, but people who aren't vegetarian are not carnivores.

Notanotherempath · Yesterday 17:21

amylou8 · Yesterday 17:01

YABU. I've been veggie since I was 12. None of my adult kids are or ever have been. My fridge often looks like an abertoir. It disgusts me if I'm honest, but I wouldn't dream of banning it. They're as entitled to eat dead things as I am not to. I also have cats and you can't really feed them broccoli.

Although cats are meat eaters tiny amounts of broccoli are quite safe but can result in farts 🙀

Dobeebeedah · Yesterday 17:22

Some religions ban the cooking or eating of pork, there are some that are vegetarian only. Meat is not the only food.

FishersGate · Yesterday 17:22

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · Yesterday 17:10

It's absolutely unacceptable that they left meaty detritus in your kitchen. Yanbu to be upset about that.

Prior to this incident, when was the last time that you had an engaged conversation with the teens where you talked about the no-meat-in-the-house rule and they engaged with it in a way to prove it was understood (ie not just "yes mum/no mum" that teens can do on autopilot and have no idea what you said 5 minutes later). It may have been a firm line in your head but if the teens last actually heard you talk about it 3 years ago they will have forgotten it.

I don't think it's a particularly reasonable rule tbh. We have a mixed veggie/meateater house and we keep a separate section of fridge and freezer for meat, and don't chop meat on wooden boards. Vegetarians do not have to touch anything dirty that has been used to package or prepare meat. That's it. Having meat in the house doesn't polute the ethical purity of a vegetarian and does no harm. Meat eating is not contagious, and this rule seems to be designed to shame your children for making their own choice.

Edited

This sounds an extremely balanced way and a way of avoiding conflict

Ablondiebutagoody · Yesterday 17:22

It's their house too so get them separate chopping boards etc. and insist that they clean up properly

Slowlorissa · Yesterday 17:22

My cat quite likes veggies. And cheese. And other non meat stuff.

Is anyone else craving a steak now?!

Userjal · Yesterday 17:22

Meetmeinlove · Yesterday 17:13

I assume you have never been on mumsnet before.

What generally happens is someone posts something and then there is a discussion where people debate both sides. Often the OP stands their ground.

It’s generally how it works!!

So the answer to your original question would be yes you are being unreasonable to be upset by this. For the record I don’t eat meat, but to ban your children from eating it at home is ridiculous. This is their home and they can’t eat a bacon sandwich in it if they fancy. Yes they should of tidied up but now they are older I think you should re think he whole no meat at home

LlynTegid · Yesterday 17:23

I eat meat, however it’s your house and your wishes should have been followed,

Morrissey would be in support of you.

Yetone · Yesterday 17:23

I don’t get all these ‘it’s their home too posts’. If the children decided to repaint the living room walls in an abstract design because they wanted it to look like that would everyone say ‘it is their home too’. They can cook what they want when they have their own homes.

Ineedanewsofa · Yesterday 17:23

I’m lactose intolerant so do not have cheese, milk, cream, yoghurt etc as it generally makes me pretty ill. The smell of yogurt in particular makes me nauseous.
These are not banned from ‘my’ house because the other people who’s home it is do eat those things and it’s fundamentally unfair IMO to not allow people to eat food in their own home. If it was an allergy (nuts for example) that would be different

Fizzink38 · Yesterday 17:24

Stick to your guns, OP. My DD is veggie and there's no way I'd take meat into her home.
She also finds the look and smell of meat very difficult to deal with, so I understand your abhorrence.

Minnie798 · Yesterday 17:25

I do find this strange.
I wouldn't have considered banning meat in my house, despite being a vegetarian.
Surely they just need to clean up properly after themselves and have separate chopping boards etc.

Yellowsubmarine55 · Yesterday 17:25

It's their home too so you banning them from eating meat in their home is a bit unreasonable. However I do get why you're upset about them using vegetable only chopping boards etc and not cleaning up.

The way forward could be having separate boards/utensils for them to prepare and cook meat so they don't feel alienated in their own home.

They must clean up though and that's a given.

VestibuleWeaver · Yesterday 17:25

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · Yesterday 17:21

Carnivore species like cats have no molar teeth and cannot properly chew or digest plants.
Herbivore species like sheep have no sharp canine teeth and have dentition and a digestive tract optimised for digesting plant matter.
Omnivores have both canine teeth and molars and can digest both meat and plant foods.
Humans are evolved as omnivores and we need a variety of foods to be healthy. If a human tried to have an actually carnivorous diet eating no plant matter they would be very unhealthy. It is possible to eat a healthy vegetarian diet, as long as it is varied enough to get a full range of amnio acids from different sources, but people who aren't vegetarian are not carnivores.

Edited

This is not true. The Inuit have long thrived on a near 100% animal diet.

BlueFahrenheit · Yesterday 17:25

Dobeebeedah · Yesterday 17:19

On a barbeque or griddle outside away from the house.

This can be highly impractical depending on the climate.

Installing a separate kitchen for the kids is a sensible solution.

RubyPowderPuff · Yesterday 17:25

ChiliFiend · Yesterday 17:02

Everyone who says you are being unreasonable is a meat eater, guaranteed. If we were talking about any other ethical choice (e.g. "I don't want my daughter's boyfriend sleeping here overnight"), you would be told "your house, your rules." You aren't trying impose your rules beyond your household - as you said, they eat whatever they like outside of the home. You're not being unreasonable - yours is a vegetarian home and that is a perfectly acceptable household rule. Leaving the remnants behind is very disrespectful so at the very least, make them wash it up.

Food (including meat) = substance = essential
Boyfriend sleeping over = non essential.

Holeymoley28 · Yesterday 17:25

This won’t have been the first time they did it. They just forgot to clean up before you got home.

Honestly I can’t believe they can’t even have a packet of ham in the fridge for a sarnie let alone cook something they want.

There should be separate utensils but they should be allowed to cook meat in their own home.

BoredZelda · Yesterday 17:26

Meetmeinlove · Yesterday 17:08

BUT THEY EAT MEAT.

I am not being selfish and controlling - I just don’t want it in my fucking house.

As other poeple have said, if it was smoking or vaping or drugs or alcohol or having boyfriends over or whatever, it would be all ‘your house your rules’

But because it’s about meat eating, somehow that’s different

All of which are illegal for children. If you said to an 18 year old they couldn’t drink in your house, yes you’d be unreasonable.

Still waiting to find out why these previously compliant children suddenly turned into feral carnivores.

CaptainMyCaptain · Yesterday 17:27

dinoderry · Yesterday 17:18

You would be better asking this to a group of vegetarians, perhaps there’s a board or something on Reddit?

My inclination is that YABU but I can’t relate to you on this so don’t grasp the strength of feeling towards something that is very ordinary to me. It’s akin to me banning my daughter from brushing her hair in my house because I’ve never brushed my hair.

It's perfectly reasonable for meat eaters to express their point of view. They are speaking on behalf of the OP's children.

Whaleandsnail6 · Yesterday 17:27

Yetone · Yesterday 17:23

I don’t get all these ‘it’s their home too posts’. If the children decided to repaint the living room walls in an abstract design because they wanted it to look like that would everyone say ‘it is their home too’. They can cook what they want when they have their own homes.

Edited

Well no, because that is not the same at all.

Repainting a wall changes the whole look of the room until it is painted over, which costs time and money. And often children have their own rooms that they have a say in how they are decorated away from the communal areas of the house...I let both my kids decorate their rooms how they want.

There is no long standing/permanent damage to cooking a chicken breast to eat. Especially if the kids buy it and clean up after themselves

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