AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK?

[bobbyydazzler]

Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK
UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

The government know the risks but they are more than willing to play roulette with the safety of women and girls in the UK, if a sexual assault (or worse) happens by a foreign national, the government will say “oh well we tried” doesn’t matter if that girl life is ruined forever, unforgivable.

You been on holiday to Afghanistan recently? Iran? Iraq?

Yes, unsure why that matters?? And don't say sorry, you're not sorry, you would only feel something if they weren't British.

Where would you rather your DD (if you had one) go ok holiday? Lisbon or Kabul? Where are the men more likely to respect her?

Under the Taliban?

Why do you think people flee from there?

There are cases in India and Pakistan (the tribal areas) where gang rape of a woman has been ordered by village courts.
officially under the Indian law this is illegal but it seems to happen relatively frequently.

see eg
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-25874459

No, but I also wouldn’t consider holidaying in the US, Latin America or Bulgaria either. So what does that tell you?

Because there are many more British men in Britain. So a person is more likely to be raped by one. To put it horribly bluntly.

They are obviously not any worse to holiday as a woman to than Spain or France

I don't pretend to know the details of anyone else else's religion

However, the following countries do not criminalise rape within a marriage, I think - there might be more

Algeria
Egypt
Iran
Iraq
Jordan
Kuwait
Libya
Morocco
Saudi Arabia
Somalia
Sudan
Syria
Yemen

But your post is about immigrants raping people in Britain??

Aside from a house swap for the few who think we have it worse, most are a bit more aware.

For those who would swap there’d be many women with daughters who would take their place in an instant.

Yes. They don't give a shit about women and girls. Full stop.

Things in the UK and UK Europe can be bad.... What don't people understand that in other parts of the world things are astronomically worse??? What do you just not understand?

This.

Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran were wonderful countries to visit and live in until…the West and its allies raped and pillaged them for their own ends. Go and do some research about the history of these countries before the UK and the US got their hands on them from the mid twentieth century onwards.

Does the Home Office recommend you don’t go to the US, Latin America or Bulgaria?

I don’t have a link (before someone asks me), but I have read of several cases of Afghani interpreters appearing in court on various charges, and themselves requiring interpreters. Make it make sense.

Lots of Afghanis will have done "one okay thing". So all good then, right? We can handwave away any offending in the past? Yes?

You need to make your mind up.

Either a) someone's past can be forgiven if they've done "one okay thing", or b) regardless of their past if they're even associated with someone who's committed an offence or a country you consider bad then they're dangerous and should be banned.

I rather suspect on which side you fall depends on the colour of the skin of the person you're judging.

No. It's not race, it's culture and socialisation.

I'd think white men raised in Afghanistan are greater risks, and conversely I'd think men whose Afghani grandparents legally emigrated to the UK, so have been raised by parents raised in the UK, are not a greater risk.

I can assume that socialisation affects all people, and so those who grow up in an environment where women are considered significantly lesser than men, and it's enshrined into the laws and culture, where marital rape is still not even a concept, where rape is treated as an offence against the women's male family, where domestic violence is legalised, and so on, are indeed highly likely to view women as lesser and more likely to offend against them.

Why take the risk? Doesn't Britain have enough homegrown abusers to be sorting out? Why import more, who have misogyny ingrained so much more deeply?

We surely don't need more evidence that many men would.behave badly if they can.
We've all seen the case of the drugged french lady raped by hundred of men because ...they could. We've seen the jounrno pretend to be drunk /semi conscoious and be hounded by men.

We know most attacks on all accounts are by men to women.

One can't imagine how much more awful it is in cultures where women don't even have the law on their side or the attempt at equality that we have .

Yes! And they shouldn’t kill women when they get ‘lonely’

I think they’re referring to foreigners from Romania and Poland which per your stats are much more likely to rape than foreigners from any of those countries.

Their attitude to women was the same then as now. Do your research.