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AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK?

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bobbyydazzler · 19/08/2026 20:26

Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK
UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

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LuckyHazelFox · Today 21:25

GunnelVallquist · Today 21:25

I admire your patience.

Think we all do x

5MinuteArgument · Today 21:26

autumnwitch4 · Today 21:07

It’s all rubbish anyway. Most of them are coming from countries where the punishment for raping a stranger is very severe, ranging from long prison sentences to the death penalty.

Their home countries may have different laws around things like marital rape (which isn’t considered a crime in some countries) but they certainly know attacking a stranger is wrong.

Yes, the punishment for sexual crimes in their own countries can be severe. But the problem is when these young males move to western countries. Then the men think they are justified in pestering and assaulting us because they're used to seeing women covered up and accompanied by males.

Keep them out, I'd say. Forget about the pathetic leaflet. Don't let them into our country because the risk is too great.

nomas · Today 21:27

NancyThompson · Today 21:25

Delighted to hear we're in agreement in which case.

Annoying being lied about, though, isn't it?

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Lied about what?

LuckyHazelFox · Today 21:30

5MinuteArgument · Today 21:26

Yes, the punishment for sexual crimes in their own countries can be severe. But the problem is when these young males move to western countries. Then the men think they are justified in pestering and assaulting us because they're used to seeing women covered up and accompanied by males.

Keep them out, I'd say. Forget about the pathetic leaflet. Don't let them into our country because the risk is too great.

This is what I always come back to about staying tied to the ECHR. It seems as though the people benefitting mostly are those whose lawyers know how to play the system. When do the average British citizens refer themselves to it?

nomas · Today 21:32

NancyThompson · Today 21:24

I think the UK probably does noeed to leave the ECHR, yes. I'm not concerned about that - we played a huge role in its creation.

What does the UK being involved in its creation have to do with your lack of concern about leaving it?

5MinuteArgument · Today 21:37

LuckyHazelFox · Today 21:30

This is what I always come back to about staying tied to the ECHR. It seems as though the people benefitting mostly are those whose lawyers know how to play the system. When do the average British citizens refer themselves to it?

These activist lawyers and judges are a huge part of the problem. I suppose they must get a kick out of enabling rapists and murderers to stay in our country by tying us up in legal knots.

bobbyydazzler · Today 21:40

5MinuteArgument · Today 21:37

These activist lawyers and judges are a huge part of the problem. I suppose they must get a kick out of enabling rapists and murderers to stay in our country by tying us up in legal knots.

https://spectator.com/article/the-radical-barristers-who-really-lay-down-the-law-in-britain/

The facade of Garden Court Chambers in Lincoln’s Inn Fields is reassuringly traditional. The barristers who work there occupy buildings which were once home to the Earl of Sandwich and the Tory prime minister Spencer Perceval. If there were any building in London in which wigs and gowns would seem a natural form of dress, it would be here.

But the facade is just that. For behind the pedimented Georgian windows there operates arguably the most radically effective cell of left-wing activists in Britain. Barristers are supposed to adhere to the cab-rank principle: they act for the first client who comes calling. Many of Garden Court’s lawyers, however, though they operate across a wide range of cases, appear to be united by one thing – their unerring tendency to champion the most left-wing causes conceivable.

The radical barristers who really lay down the law in Britain

The facade of Garden Court Chambers in Lincoln’s Inn Fields is reassuringly traditional. The barristers who work there occupy buildings which were once home to the Earl of Sandwich and the Tory prime minister Spencer Perceval. If there were any buildin...

https://spectator.com/article/the-radical-barristers-who-really-lay-down-the-law-in-britain/

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Neverstopwondering · Today 21:40

nomas · Today 21:14

but you are not wanting people to talk about ways to hault some of those rapes

Made up nonsense, I haven’t told anyone not to talk about anything.

I’m all for stopping rapes, even one rape is too many.

But there seems to be a white washing in the media and by many MNers that rape is now a racialised crime which does need challenging.

Not noticed anyone here suggesting that white nmen don't commit rape or rape is only done by migrants. Not on any l similar threads either. Yes some people are talking in a way that does point out only the migrant rapes but that is because topic of the threads. In a more general topic about rape people would be talking about all rapes. I think you are the person taking offence about nothing and talking nonsense actually. Personally I find the interruptions of conversation by people going but white men rape why are you not talking about white men it must be because racism rather childish and entitled.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 21:41

bobbyydazzler · Today 21:40

https://spectator.com/article/the-radical-barristers-who-really-lay-down-the-law-in-britain/

The facade of Garden Court Chambers in Lincoln’s Inn Fields is reassuringly traditional. The barristers who work there occupy buildings which were once home to the Earl of Sandwich and the Tory prime minister Spencer Perceval. If there were any building in London in which wigs and gowns would seem a natural form of dress, it would be here.

But the facade is just that. For behind the pedimented Georgian windows there operates arguably the most radically effective cell of left-wing activists in Britain. Barristers are supposed to adhere to the cab-rank principle: they act for the first client who comes calling. Many of Garden Court’s lawyers, however, though they operate across a wide range of cases, appear to be united by one thing – their unerring tendency to champion the most left-wing causes conceivable.

The enemies of the state.

bobbyydazzler · Today 21:41

bobbyydazzler · Today 21:40

https://spectator.com/article/the-radical-barristers-who-really-lay-down-the-law-in-britain/

The facade of Garden Court Chambers in Lincoln’s Inn Fields is reassuringly traditional. The barristers who work there occupy buildings which were once home to the Earl of Sandwich and the Tory prime minister Spencer Perceval. If there were any building in London in which wigs and gowns would seem a natural form of dress, it would be here.

But the facade is just that. For behind the pedimented Georgian windows there operates arguably the most radically effective cell of left-wing activists in Britain. Barristers are supposed to adhere to the cab-rank principle: they act for the first client who comes calling. Many of Garden Court’s lawyers, however, though they operate across a wide range of cases, appear to be united by one thing – their unerring tendency to champion the most left-wing causes conceivable.

https://archive.ph/Da9KS

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RoseandVioletCreams · Today 21:42

Burnhamsmascara · Today 14:07

It's not just the men coming on lorries and on boats...it's also the "students" who enrol on bullshit courses and after arriving here quit the course and claim asylum. It's also the "highly skilled work visa's" that are given out to vape shop owners and the "unification" of families when one person has got a foothold into the UK. There was a story about a Gazan woman that was able to bring 18 family members over because the ECHR supported the fact her mental health would be impacted if this wasn't done (https://www.aol.com/articles/gazan-family-18-come-britain-094411000.html). Meanwhile the Labour Party is now saying that charities and organisations can sponsor more and more people to come to the UK like some sort of Ponzi scheme. We are literally flooding the country with so many people from other cultures that we can't possibly assimilate them all and then we wonder why we suddenly have such a big problem with misogyny and violence against women and girls? The grooming gang scandals were not a few wrong'uns working alone - they were large networks of men whose crimes were covered up by their own families and communities. Imagine being a genuine female asylum seeker and you finally make it to Britain to find the seeds of the culture you risked your life to escape springing up around you again? I am scared for the future of this country.

The last lines, imagine being.a genuine female asslym seekers to find the seeds of the life you escape springing up all around you!

climbintheback · Today 21:42

Leapintothelightning · 19/08/2026 20:49

Sooo 74% were British nationals?
yeah sounds like an immigration issue…

You obviously slept through maths!

bobbyydazzler · Today 21:43

LuckyHazelFox · Today 21:41

The enemies of the state.

Lining their pockets is all that matters. Especially when they are then so wealthy they suffer none of the consequences of their actions. The repercussions are for the plebs only.

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RoseandVioletCreams · Today 21:45

@5MinuteArgument more than a kick it's obviously a very cushty way to make money isn't it ! The laws are loaded in their side judges on their side probably even weak opposition !

Great job

LuckyHazelFox · Today 21:46

Loophole lawyers.

bobbyydazzler · Today 21:48

bobbyydazzler · Today 21:43

Lining their pockets is all that matters. Especially when they are then so wealthy they suffer none of the consequences of their actions. The repercussions are for the plebs only.

Any suggestion it is mere coincidence that Garden Court barristers bring so many cases against the state on behalf of asylum seekers, protestors and even terrorists is belied by how many of them openly champion their hard-left views.

And while Garden Court racks up victories, the manner in which it has pushed the boundaries of the ECHR and sought to extend the remit of the right to family life to the point of absurdity leaves the ECHR looking less like a neutral instrument of law and more like a weapon in an ideological battle.

Activist lawyers are going to triumph more often than not so long as our elected representatives keep handing them the ammunition to fight. The limp suggestion this week from the Home Secretary that the government should ‘review’ how the ECHR is interpreted in the courts will have done little to deter the idealists of Garden Court. (The chambers were approached for comment about this article but no reply had been received by the time we went to press. However, they have previously said members of the independent Bar should not be conflated with their clients’ interests or views.)

Given that in many sensitive migration and asylum cases, judgments are made by lawyers who are open about their ideological opposition to tough border controls, the public might understandably think that our legal system is not operating with the impartiality it should.

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Neverstopwondering · Today 21:48

LuckyHazelFox · Today 21:17

No chance. Bit like Egypt and Jordan not taking in their neighbours.

To be fair those particular neighbours keep trying to blow up things, kill people and take over the government/country whenever they let them in. Only the west want those immigrates because the west is largely ignorant of Middle Eastern history.

5MinuteArgument · Today 21:49

bobbyydazzler · Today 21:43

Lining their pockets is all that matters. Especially when they are then so wealthy they suffer none of the consequences of their actions. The repercussions are for the plebs only.

Yes, these lawyers are traitors, enemies of the people. Where the hell do they get their funding from to defend people who abuse and attack British people? They obviously do very well out of it financially. They are the scum of the earth.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 21:52

Neverstopwondering · Today 21:48

To be fair those particular neighbours keep trying to blow up things, kill people and take over the government/country whenever they let them in. Only the west want those immigrates because the west is largely ignorant of Middle Eastern history.

Oh I agree but somehow they escape the scrutiny that Great Britain gets. If only we could just say nah, we've been there, trusted you and learned our lesson. We can't do that though because we are racists. Our dopey useful idiots certainly don't understand the ME history.

5MinuteArgument · Today 21:58

LuckyHazelFox · Today 21:52

Oh I agree but somehow they escape the scrutiny that Great Britain gets. If only we could just say nah, we've been there, trusted you and learned our lesson. We can't do that though because we are racists. Our dopey useful idiots certainly don't understand the ME history.

We're being run by useful idiots. Allowing the lawyer class to piss on the British people from a great height. Enabling rapists, murderers, drug dealers and money launderers into our country and giving them teams of clever lawyers to protect them.

No wonder people in Britain and all over Europe are sick of this shit.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 22:02

5MinuteArgument · Today 21:58

We're being run by useful idiots. Allowing the lawyer class to piss on the British people from a great height. Enabling rapists, murderers, drug dealers and money launderers into our country and giving them teams of clever lawyers to protect them.

No wonder people in Britain and all over Europe are sick of this shit.

Something is amiss. I remember going to see the Darkest Hour when it came out at the pictures. I honestly didn't want to leave when the film ended, to come back out to what this country has become. That was back in 2018 and its got 10 times worse since then.

climbintheback · Today 22:05

I’m either moving to China or joining the travellers!

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