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AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK?

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bobbyydazzler · 19/08/2026 20:26

Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK
UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

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bobbyydazzler · 23/08/2026 18:00

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 17:56

So why criticise posters who want it lower?

nomas is best ignored, he's a little bored I think.

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EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 18:01

nomas · 23/08/2026 17:58

Where did I do that?! People are entitled to their opinions, I would never criticise anyone for wanting it lower.

I think Tony Blair admitting he let in too many Eastern Europeans shows governments can get it wrong.

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Your posts highlight Afghan numbers for example letting us know it’s not an issue for you and shouldn’t be for us.

But it conflicts with your posts saying you want numbers lower anyway.

MaturingCheeseball · 23/08/2026 18:03

I know I shouldn’t mention other threads, but they expressed sympathy for the arseholes who killed the police in the driving incident….

Happygirl79 · 23/08/2026 18:03

Perhaps if we had a law here that ordered castration as a punishment if the man was found guilty then rapists may think twice before harming women. Tell me that I am wrong.

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:05

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 18:01

Your posts highlight Afghan numbers for example letting us know it’s not an issue for you and shouldn’t be for us.

But it conflicts with your posts saying you want numbers lower anyway.

My view is that the only acceptable number of rapes is zero.

But studies show that the media disproportionately reports rape by BAME men and immigrants much more than white men, and I see that happening on MN too. It needs calling out.

bobbyydazzler · 23/08/2026 18:05

MaturingCheeseball · 23/08/2026 18:03

I know I shouldn’t mention other threads, but they expressed sympathy for the arseholes who killed the police in the driving incident….

Standard, sadly. Probably expressed sympathy for the family who killed Henry Novak too.

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SomethingHasGotToBeDoneAboutYourKids · 23/08/2026 18:06

nomas · 23/08/2026 17:56

I have not called anyone racist. You putting “racist” in inverted commas implies that I have. That is disingenuous, you should apologise.

Your posts seem to be continually denying what you have attempted to imply, by continually posting whataboutery (e.g. examples of white men committing rapes, which nobody ever denied happens as though we’re somehow wrong to highlight the higher prevalence of offending in certain ethnic groups); deliberately misleading comments like “most rapes are committed by white men” in a majority white country; and comments saying all men are a risk as though the fact that some men from all nations/ cultures/ backgrounds commit rape means they all pose the same level of risk etc. If these comments weren’t for the purpose of trying to shut down or derail the legitimate discussion about the different level of risk that different men pose to women and children, what was your purpose in making these comments?

Meanwhile, you are still refusing to answer any of the questions put to you about the actual data demonstrating that men from certain cultures pose a far higher risk than others, i.e. do you think that we should ignore this evidenced fact and treat women and children who live in the UK as collateral damage because these men want to come and live here too and that’s more important that our safety, or do you agree that the safety of women and children in the UK should be prioritised over these men’s desire to live in the UK?

Perhaps rather than trying to deny your obvious and deliberate attempts to imply there’s no valid justification for concern, you might be good enough to answer the questions above.

bobbyydazzler · 23/08/2026 18:06

Happygirl79 · 23/08/2026 18:03

Perhaps if we had a law here that ordered castration as a punishment if the man was found guilty then rapists may think twice before harming women. Tell me that I am wrong.

Guilty with no doubt. Physical castration. Not chemical. I support that 100%.

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SomethingHasGotToBeDoneAboutYourKids · 23/08/2026 18:07

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:05

My view is that the only acceptable number of rapes is zero.

But studies show that the media disproportionately reports rape by BAME men and immigrants much more than white men, and I see that happening on MN too. It needs calling out.

So your claim is that the Ministry of Justice has published false crime statistics?

Coconutter24 · 23/08/2026 18:07

bobbyydazzler · 19/08/2026 20:49

Don't rape children? You think your ever day British bloke needs to be guided not to rape children?

Well 10-12% of men in prison are there for child related crimes and that’s just those that have been caught!!

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:07

MaturingCheeseball · 23/08/2026 18:03

I know I shouldn’t mention other threads, but they expressed sympathy for the arseholes who killed the police in the driving incident….

Someone on the thread said a recent victim of one of the crashes was a 13yo boy.

I said that it’s possible that one of two of the boys may have been terrified in the back seat.

Would love to know what that makes me in your opinion?

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:08

SomethingHasGotToBeDoneAboutYourKids · 23/08/2026 18:06

Your posts seem to be continually denying what you have attempted to imply, by continually posting whataboutery (e.g. examples of white men committing rapes, which nobody ever denied happens as though we’re somehow wrong to highlight the higher prevalence of offending in certain ethnic groups); deliberately misleading comments like “most rapes are committed by white men” in a majority white country; and comments saying all men are a risk as though the fact that some men from all nations/ cultures/ backgrounds commit rape means they all pose the same level of risk etc. If these comments weren’t for the purpose of trying to shut down or derail the legitimate discussion about the different level of risk that different men pose to women and children, what was your purpose in making these comments?

Meanwhile, you are still refusing to answer any of the questions put to you about the actual data demonstrating that men from certain cultures pose a far higher risk than others, i.e. do you think that we should ignore this evidenced fact and treat women and children who live in the UK as collateral damage because these men want to come and live here too and that’s more important that our safety, or do you agree that the safety of women and children in the UK should be prioritised over these men’s desire to live in the UK?

Perhaps rather than trying to deny your obvious and deliberate attempts to imply there’s no valid justification for concern, you might be good enough to answer the questions above.

I’ve asked you which of those ethnicities in the table you posted you wanted me to look at.

You have not replied.

Tell me which one and I’ll look into it right now.

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 18:09

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:05

My view is that the only acceptable number of rapes is zero.

But studies show that the media disproportionately reports rape by BAME men and immigrants much more than white men, and I see that happening on MN too. It needs calling out.

I think it’s because we do have borders and we don’t actually have to see those crimes.

Women don’t look at Rhiannon Whyte or the Brighton rape or the elderly man even and think ok let’s keep this system. Many think no it’s not ok, politicians should resolve that.

Of course all crime needs tackling but each of those horrendous crimes could be stopped by disallowing entry.

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:10

SomethingHasGotToBeDoneAboutYourKids · 23/08/2026 18:07

So your claim is that the Ministry of Justice has published false crime statistics?

Again, what do you want me to look at?

AndyKitten · 23/08/2026 18:11

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:07

Someone on the thread said a recent victim of one of the crashes was a 13yo boy.

I said that it’s possible that one of two of the boys may have been terrified in the back seat.

Would love to know what that makes me in your opinion?

The wasn’t no one of 13 in the car.

16, 17, 18 and two 23 year olds.

Old enough to know better.

SomethingHasGotToBeDoneAboutYourKids · 23/08/2026 18:11

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:08

I’ve asked you which of those ethnicities in the table you posted you wanted me to look at.

You have not replied.

Tell me which one and I’ll look into it right now.

Really? Look at the columns which show the prevalence of rapes per 10,000 of population. You might notice that the numbers in some rows are many times as large as the numbers in others. HTH.

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:17

SomethingHasGotToBeDoneAboutYourKids · 23/08/2026 18:11

Really? Look at the columns which show the prevalence of rapes per 10,000 of population. You might notice that the numbers in some rows are many times as large as the numbers in others. HTH.

Can you link the source? It doesn't even have a date on it.

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:19

AndyKitten · 23/08/2026 18:11

The wasn’t no one of 13 in the car.

16, 17, 18 and two 23 year olds.

Old enough to know better.

Again, someone on the thread said there was a 13yo boy dead in a recent crash.

If feeling sad that kids that young are getting caught in this trend makes me a bad person, so be it.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/08/2026 18:20

bobbyydazzler · 21/08/2026 21:01

There's a reason they're trying to keep a lid on it. What we know is scary, imagine what we don't know because we're not being told. And we're paying for it too.

Oh there’s sooo much that doesn’t make the press. Our country is so weak on deporting foreign nationals who commit crime. They are bailed (again and again). I have been a migrant. The last thing I would be doing is committing a crime in the country I have chosen to live in, that’s been gracious enough to grant me a visa to stay. I wouldn’t dare go against the laws and customs of said country.

Us? You’ve committed a crime? Here, have housing, benefits, stay as long as you want and if you complain otherwise you’re a big Reform voting racist bigot 🙄.

GunnelVallquist · 23/08/2026 18:22

bobbyydazzler · 23/08/2026 12:48

I'm starting to think these men are writing on websites such as reddit (perhaps not mumsnet just yet, but who knows). Because otherwise I cannot fathom just how thick these people are. It goes beyond 'being kind' now - the truth, the evidence is there for everyone to see.

There's obviously the misogynistic / patriarchal side to it too - but that can't explain it all.

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It’s crazy, isn’t it?

But then I keep seeing posters on here (I won’t mention names, but I’m sure you and others will know anyway) who are doing their best to shut down any debate about immigration and I see their names on other threads/ subjects too.

So I can only conclude they’re real and most probably even female, which makes it all the more depressing.

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bobbyydazzler · 23/08/2026 18:25

GunnelVallquist · 23/08/2026 18:22

It’s crazy, isn’t it?

But then I keep seeing posters on here (I won’t mention names, but I’m sure you and others will know anyway) who are doing their best to shut down any debate about immigration and I see their names on other threads/ subjects too.

So I can only conclude they’re real and most probably even female, which makes it all the more depressing.

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They name change of course, too

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bobbyydazzler · 23/08/2026 18:29

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:19

Again, someone on the thread said there was a 13yo boy dead in a recent crash.

If feeling sad that kids that young are getting caught in this trend makes me a bad person, so be it.

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4 x 17yrs and 1 x15yrs

The only young kid was in the victims car. Aged 7. Luckily the putrid little shits who caused the crash, didn't kill him, only themselves.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2026/08/17/five-killed-speeding-into-oncoming-car-on-m9-suspected-of-local-crime-spree/

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nomas · 23/08/2026 18:34

bobbyydazzler · 23/08/2026 18:29

4 x 17yrs and 1 x15yrs

The only young kid was in the victims car. Aged 7. Luckily the putrid little shits who caused the crash, didn't kill him, only themselves.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2026/08/17/five-killed-speeding-into-oncoming-car-on-m9-suspected-of-local-crime-spree/

I was referring to this post on the thread.

The day I start being glad that 13yo children are dead is the day I stop calling myself human. What a waste of so many lives.

AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK?
SomethingHasGotToBeDoneAboutYourKids · 23/08/2026 18:45

nomas · 23/08/2026 18:17

Can you link the source? It doesn't even have a date on it.

Have you actually read the thread, or indeed any of my comments?

As stated several times, a poster earlier in the thread posted the Ministry of Justice data. I then analysed it per capita of population.

So your response is, then, to deny the validity of the data rather than to actually respond to what the data shows.

Or to answer why it is you think that the MOJ is refusing to comply with the ICO’s order to release crime statistic data by nationality, making completely implausible excuses not to do so and appealing the ICO’s order in court?

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