AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK?

[bobbyydazzler]

Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK
UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

You keep ignoring ‘per capita’ stats on every single thread I have seen you on.

The per capita threads seem to want to focus on the 22 Afghan immigrants convicted of sexual assaults last year rather than the 100,000 white British men reported by police each year.

You won’t change deeply ingrained misogynistic attitudes, no. But you can remind them quite forcefully about abiding by the law. I think this leaflet is a good thing.

Norway had to have anti rape classes

Every single study, report and data. Across multiple nations. She just ignores.

Can you post this study, report, data?

The official data from Statistics Denmark explicitly confirms that when you strictly adjust for age and isolate for men, massive statistical variations based on country of origin remain an empirical reality. This is why the Danish registry is universally regarded by criminologists as the most accurate reflection of demographic crime data in the world—it completely eliminates the counting errors and demographic guesswork that skew statistics in countries like the UK.

www.dst.dk/en/Statistik/emner/sociale-forhold/kriminalitet/doemte-personer

I call 'unreasonable' because demonising asylum seekers is a) part of a wider project by fascist entities and b) deflects from the major source of violence against women and girls, domestic abuse by partners and others known to the victim. 90% of sexual violence against women is perpetrated by someone known to them.

There is a wholly unacceptable epidemic of abuse of women, it's past time for Reform and all political parties to recognise it and deal with it. There is a problem with managing asylum seekers but it's dwarfed by our home-grown problem.

Rape Crisis - The facts about VAWG

I took your data table and added a couple of columns to analyse the data by population percentage so that it is more representative of recorded prosecutions/ conviction rates per head of population.

There seem to be very significant differences between the likelihood of rape prosecutions/ convictions in different ethnic groups, which cannot be accounted for by “police/ jury prejudice” or suchlike given that some of the categories with the lowest recorded offending rates are not white/ European (e.g. Chinese, Arab).

Obviously there may also be differences in reporting levels within some ethnic groups as well, which makes it harder to analyse what is happening. But it’s probable that this factor would actually make the gap between actual offending rates and recorded prosecutions higher, not lower, given that the women in the ethnic groups with higher recorded prosecution/ conviction rates generally also tend to also be those where the women are more likely to be subject to coercive or physical or financial abuse and therefore less likely to feel able to make reports to the police at all.

What is disturbing is that nearly 30% of prosecutions and convictions were in categories with this data not recorded or specified at all, or unclear categorisations. It’s unclear why the data is being recorded in some cases and not others. We cannot make appropriate evidence-based public policy if authorities like the police and justice system do not keep accurate records. It’s unacceptable.

It is possible. Australia only gives controlled humanitarian visas to a capped amount of people needing refuge.

Why not have that?

Let's not add to it

Obviously @SpiritAdder I don’t know where you got the table from in the first place and the source of the data, so cannot vouch for its accuracy. I just added some statistical analysis to it to make it representative per head of population.

I really don't think the UK needs to follow the example of a country that has elected a demented giant Cheeto as their president, tbh. And elected him twice!

God knows, we've had some pisspoor PMs in recent years, but none in that league.

You are wrong. Sex outside marriage and cohabiting is not illegal in Dubai if you are over 18, so there is no need for authorities to “ turn a blind eye”

This person was prosecuted as the girl was only 17 and the case was subsequently dropped. Didn’t you even read the article you linked to?

But aren’t men who are so brazen that they will rape/ assault/ abuse women in public also far more likely to be those perpetrating the hidden domestic abuse as well? I don’t think it’s reasonable to assume that these things are mutually exclusive. In fact, the data from offenders demonstrates that they are not.

I just can't be doing with bleeding heart liberals.
The world over, people are finding out what letting these people in our countries results in. Look at Sweden..
I have NO problem with people of any colour / race coming here to add to our way of life, & I live in a multicultural area. But these men - and it IS men - coming in - nope. I fail to understand what the problem is with packing them off home. How they must laugh at us all, wrangling with stupid laws that give them the 'right' to be here.

The way I see this is over 1 in 4 rapes wouldn't have happened in this country if those men were not in the country.

It's not like non rapey British men think oh there's a hold load of women that haven't been raped because the foreign nationals are not here so I'll do my bit.

These statistics show that foreign nationals are disproportionately more likely to be a rapist.

So the current immigration policy is having a direct impact on every woman in this country by making us statistically more likely to be raped.

(edited for typo)

I assume you didn’t get your maths GCSE, as clearly you don’t understand statistics.

Another point on this: I’d also like to see proper data from the Government on the number of reported offences, not just those that they decided to prosecute (which is a woeful percentage of the total).

We should follow a country that has resolved the issue and now even people on the left wouldn’t go back to this system.

Really?!

It’s exhausting.

Yes really. I like to listen and find out where people are coming from before I argue. You?

Excellent post. I'm no longer interested in appeals to the ECHR and international law, we can change laws or opt out from them. We tried to operate a humane offering for asylum seekers and spent billions upon billions of pounds doing it at a time when our credit cards are well and truly maxed out, they repaid us by raping children and pensions and murdering women with screw drivers.

We're only talking about the real heinous crimes here by the way. Even without those, the petty crime, the violence, the street harassment and antisocial behaviour is more than enough to conclude that it needs to end completely. I have had enough of watching tens of thousands of people break into our country each year and being told that we're stuck with the consequences and the costs of it.