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AIBU to think wishing away summer suggests unrealistic expectations of children?

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Sleepytimepleaseee · 17/08/2026 19:50

My kids have just turned 5 and 3. The last year has been gradually easier, and now they play beautifully together most of the time. I wanted kids, I had kids, I had a hideous year where the oldest was in a hitting phase but apart from a few dark days I knew it would end and we'd come out the other side of it. We only have two weeks left of the summer holidays before they start school again and I'm sad. I enjoy their company, they are funny and kind and insightful, and I'll miss them when they go back. Am I unreasonable to think that unless life has dealt you a particularly cruel blow to have kids with additional needs you hadn't anticipated that to wish away the summer holidays suggests you hadn't considered what humans at that life stage are like?

OP posts:
Schoolchoicesucks · 18/08/2026 11:11

Who are you talking about or to?

You're not talking to parents of kids with additional needs.
And you're not talking to parents who have had to work for the majority of the summer and haven't spent the majority of that tine with their kids.
You're not talking to the parents who have spent the majority of the time with their kids and have enjoyed it and don't want it to be over.

So who are you talking to?
A minority of parents who have been home with their ND kids and not enjoyed it?
And you think that the only reason for this is them having ubrealistic expectations of their kids? Rather than anything else going on?

I think you're not very imaginative. And a bit smug.

PrettyLittleRose · 18/08/2026 11:13

Jaimelefromage · 18/08/2026 08:31

Come off it. If you have any awareness of the English language (and you do appear to), you’d know that saying ‘I understand that it may be difficult if you have a child with additional needs’ is entirely different to describing it as being ‘dealt a cruel blow’. And then doubling down and suggesting that those objecting to the phrasing must have been ‘wishing’ additional needs on to our children.
Id have far more respect for you if you just said ‘hands up, I phrased that badly’. Then everyone could go back to concentrating on the main premise of your post. Which I still disagree with.

Exactly. The OP is just embarrassing herself at this point. Just say sorry I offended people and admit you're wrong @Sleepytimepleaseee

Nevermind31 · 18/08/2026 11:24

Summer holidays. Would love to spend it with my kids. But they have 6 weeks off, me and DH have 2 weeks off.
so the rest of the time it is juggling different holiday camps (for variety and because they like to do different things) that do not align with school hours, nor are they as close as school. So we are struggling to meet the 3 day office policy, getting kids to camp for 10, rushing home for meetings (hoping not to have to pull over in the car and do meeting from there due to traffic), picking them up for 3, continue to work, make up hours in the evening. Paying £80-100 per day (2 children).
don’t get me wrong, my children had an amazing summer… sailing camp, coding camp, drama camp, science camp…but I am looking forward to the routine of school. And yes, we knew this before we had children. No, I don’t want to be a SAHP. I can love my children, and summer, and still look forward to logistics being easier again in September.
always makes me laugh when people with young children don’t understand… you’ll get there.
at some point they don’t want to play with each other in the garden… they want friends, other children, activities…

Timeforachange26 · 18/08/2026 11:27

Sartre · 18/08/2026 08:01

Fair enough. Lots of kids would be bored shitless of the beach after the second or third trip… Suppose we’re all different.

One of mine refused to go on sand at all at primary age so beaches would've been no go

Schoolchoicesucks · 18/08/2026 11:30

itsgettingweird · 18/08/2026 08:39

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

spot on.

The suggestion was also that they understand those of us with disabled not enjoying the holidays.

As if all parents with disabled children have identical children with identical needs blah blah blah.

FWIW my own severely physically disabled child who requires a lot of support competed at British championships this summer holiday. Won 3 medals no less.

Maybe I should feel sorry for the OP and the blow of most likely 2 averagely standard children who are not likely to achieve the same?!

OP admit it. Your post was smug. It was designed to look down on those who haven’t had the luxury of being home all summer with their children and who have enjoyed it if they have.

Congrats to your child!

OnlyUsername · 18/08/2026 12:21

Jaimelefromage · 18/08/2026 10:36

My middle daughter started back at football training last night after their summer break and she was ecstatic!
I hear you on the swimming pools too. I’ve tried multiple times to take mine swimming but the public slots are really limited due to swimming lessons/summer fast track courses.
We’ve also done NT to death. My elder two will still happily come for a meander and a scone to be fair, but not more than once every couple of weeks! We’ve been to every NT place within a 30 mile radius at least 3 times over the years.

Our NTs are very lovely (Stourhead and Lacock are two of them) but neither of them even have a playground and there are only so many times you can walk a path around a lake or a large house. I'm bored of them and I'm an adult who likes plants. Nor (rightly!) can you take a ball.

WhatsUpWithGene · 18/08/2026 13:13

I’m childfree and think your post is incredibly short sighted, insensitive and unrealistic and if I’d posted similar then I’d have been flamed out of existence.

I think most parents are heroes for surviving the summer holidays and I have so much respect for them getting through the long weeks that must be for the majority of women incredibly hard work.
Everyone is entitled to a moan or a vent and that doesn’t mean they regret their choices or find it all completely miserable - it just means they are human and can’t find every minute joyful and meaningful and be required to paste a smile on their face and never complain like a robot.

I realised that it isn’t realistic to expect anyone to be able to anticipate how life can be when you have children and I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to really know how hard it can be - despite planning for them and preparing and trying to envisage it.
Even if you’ve spent your life working with them, grew up with younger siblings or helped take care of friends kids or nieces and nephews it’s different when it’s your own and all children are different.

I read somewhere once that it’s harder for women who need intellectual stimulation to spend all their time with children because they don’t have a lot of interesting conversation and it gets boring.
I think that obviously doesn’t apply to you and your ill informed opinion about children with extra needs proves that!

Almost all women love and adore their kids deeply but I find it baffling to think you would find any situation in life easy all the time and be able to find every minute joyful when their are always additional stresses and challenges and life doesn’t always run smoothly.

Kids are demanding, repetitive, annoying and only think of themselves.
You are expected to devote your life to keeping them happy and they usually want more and don’t appreciate how hard it is to juggle everything and constantly keep them entertained and it’s expensive and not everyone has the funds for holidays abroad, constant days out or toys and activities to keep them busy at home.

Many women are expected to carry the load of parenting alone and still work during the holidays and to be the one to organise childcare. It must be impossible not to be frustrated and resentful to be in that situation.

The days must seem long when kids are up early and go to bed late with no school in the morning and they find it boring without the routine and structure of school.
If you have multiple children even if they “play beautifully” they aren’t going to get on all day every day and will have different needs that need meeting and if they are very young then it must be exhausting to split yourself between them.

I find your patronising concerns and sympathy towards women with children with special needs really insensitive and disrespectful - especially when you are implying it’s only women with children without any extra needs that must be expected to find it possible to enjoy every minute.
There are different challenges in both situations and when you love your children theenjoyable times mixed with difficult days because that’s the reality of life and sometimes you just want time for yourself and to put yourself first but that’s not always possible when all kids require your attention, time and you to put them first.

In the past raising children wasn’t as isolating when you had a village and community around you to help. Modern day parenting is harder when you are expected to carry the weight alone without complaint and see to the whole families needs without any respite or break.
It must be very lonely when no one is thinking of your needs and you are the only one making sacrifices and your judgement means some women struggling will find it harder to ask for support if they feel they aren’t normal for finding things difficult and should be feeling only gratitude and joy.

If think one day you’ll look back on this post OP and see how naive you were and hopefully how smug and unsupportive you seem and how your expectations of how other women are when parenting becomes more challenging for you.
You are guilty of what a lot of people do when they can’t envisage their own life isn’t the same as everyone else’s and they criticise people who find things harder or have different expectations or enjoy different things.

If I can see all that from an outside point of view and have empathy and understanding then I’m disappointed that someone who chose to have children can’t show compassion for other women and parents and hope that you accept the same judgement without complaint if you are ever struggling with a phase of motherhood that others found easier.

Becuriousnotjudgemental1980 · 18/08/2026 13:33

I dread it every year. Not because I hate my kids.. it’s just an effing nightmare trying to arrange childcare and I’m only allowed to take 2 weeks of leave. 3 at an absolute push and that’s not guaranteed.. I wasn’t allowed a 3rd week this year. Husband can only take 2 so there’s always 2 weeks unaccounted for. I think it should be shortened to 4 weeks. It was OK when women didn’t work but it’s just ridiculous for working parents.

villadicance · 18/08/2026 13:44

Lemonyyy · 18/08/2026 08:44

I think your point about being an introvert is really pertinent here. I bloody love my kids, but I don't want to be around anybody 24/7 for six weeks straight. Add to that the fact that I found the endless round of park/softplay/splash pad relentlessly tedious and yeah, I did wish away some of the mid primary summer holidays.

My kids are older now, into teens or nearly, and the last two summers have been genuinely gorgeous because we can do more grown up stuff, and because they are organising their own stuff with friends so there is some breathing room. And some people might love the holidays with small people and find teens harder or more distant and that's ok too. It's almost like we're all different and find different things easy or hard...

Exactly. And to expand on the introvert/extrovert thing - it applies to children too.

My younger one was a wild toddler but is also an introvert and so now will actively ask for quiet time where we both read. My older one has always been more calm and more obedient but is a total extrovert and will come looking for me if he hasn't seen me for 5 mins. I have always found the younger easier even in his wild charging around years.

Sleepytimepleaseee · 18/08/2026 13:59

WhatsUpWithGene · 18/08/2026 13:13

I’m childfree and think your post is incredibly short sighted, insensitive and unrealistic and if I’d posted similar then I’d have been flamed out of existence.

I think most parents are heroes for surviving the summer holidays and I have so much respect for them getting through the long weeks that must be for the majority of women incredibly hard work.
Everyone is entitled to a moan or a vent and that doesn’t mean they regret their choices or find it all completely miserable - it just means they are human and can’t find every minute joyful and meaningful and be required to paste a smile on their face and never complain like a robot.

I realised that it isn’t realistic to expect anyone to be able to anticipate how life can be when you have children and I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to really know how hard it can be - despite planning for them and preparing and trying to envisage it.
Even if you’ve spent your life working with them, grew up with younger siblings or helped take care of friends kids or nieces and nephews it’s different when it’s your own and all children are different.

I read somewhere once that it’s harder for women who need intellectual stimulation to spend all their time with children because they don’t have a lot of interesting conversation and it gets boring.
I think that obviously doesn’t apply to you and your ill informed opinion about children with extra needs proves that!

Almost all women love and adore their kids deeply but I find it baffling to think you would find any situation in life easy all the time and be able to find every minute joyful when their are always additional stresses and challenges and life doesn’t always run smoothly.

Kids are demanding, repetitive, annoying and only think of themselves.
You are expected to devote your life to keeping them happy and they usually want more and don’t appreciate how hard it is to juggle everything and constantly keep them entertained and it’s expensive and not everyone has the funds for holidays abroad, constant days out or toys and activities to keep them busy at home.

Many women are expected to carry the load of parenting alone and still work during the holidays and to be the one to organise childcare. It must be impossible not to be frustrated and resentful to be in that situation.

The days must seem long when kids are up early and go to bed late with no school in the morning and they find it boring without the routine and structure of school.
If you have multiple children even if they “play beautifully” they aren’t going to get on all day every day and will have different needs that need meeting and if they are very young then it must be exhausting to split yourself between them.

I find your patronising concerns and sympathy towards women with children with special needs really insensitive and disrespectful - especially when you are implying it’s only women with children without any extra needs that must be expected to find it possible to enjoy every minute.
There are different challenges in both situations and when you love your children theenjoyable times mixed with difficult days because that’s the reality of life and sometimes you just want time for yourself and to put yourself first but that’s not always possible when all kids require your attention, time and you to put them first.

In the past raising children wasn’t as isolating when you had a village and community around you to help. Modern day parenting is harder when you are expected to carry the weight alone without complaint and see to the whole families needs without any respite or break.
It must be very lonely when no one is thinking of your needs and you are the only one making sacrifices and your judgement means some women struggling will find it harder to ask for support if they feel they aren’t normal for finding things difficult and should be feeling only gratitude and joy.

If think one day you’ll look back on this post OP and see how naive you were and hopefully how smug and unsupportive you seem and how your expectations of how other women are when parenting becomes more challenging for you.
You are guilty of what a lot of people do when they can’t envisage their own life isn’t the same as everyone else’s and they criticise people who find things harder or have different expectations or enjoy different things.

If I can see all that from an outside point of view and have empathy and understanding then I’m disappointed that someone who chose to have children can’t show compassion for other women and parents and hope that you accept the same judgement without complaint if you are ever struggling with a phase of motherhood that others found easier.

That's a lot of waffling on for someone who doesn't even have kids, especially when you seem to cast the majority of women as martyrs who are completely unsupported and unable to voice their needs or create change.

OP posts:
Catsandcwtches · 18/08/2026 16:01

A lot of us are completely unsupported apart from paid for childcare. However much you voice your needs, most people are working and unable to help, a lot of grandparents live far away or are unable or uninterested in looking after small children.

Piglet89 · 18/08/2026 16:27

“Unable to voice their needs or create change”.

As if it’s that easy. Hilarious.

NaranjaSilla · 18/08/2026 16:30

I think you’ve taken it more seriously than a lot of people ‘wishing the summer away’ are being. Parenthood is one big conflict of feelings, wishing the time away and feeling sad the time is going so quickly. Needing peace but missing them. And if someone asked me, I’d probably flippantly tell them that I’m counting down the days til school (how serious I was would depend on the day). But actually I’ve really enjoyed having a bit more time with those little hooligans. I also think a good chunk of the people I know would feel the same about their own families.

Didimum · 18/08/2026 16:49

Sleepytimepleaseee · 17/08/2026 21:41

I'm in Wales so this is my third round of summer holidays. I'm self employed, work full time but juggle my work to keep the summer free for childcare and take the financial hit. It's not ideal, but we just scrimp for a few weeks. Partner works full time and is out of the house 7.30-6 Mon-Fri. No family help or other childcare. Our days are spent walking the dog, going to the beach, going to the country park we have membership for, pottering at home and local parks. The weather has helped. Last two weeks we'll probably go swimming as the weather isn't so good. No holiday this year, can't afford it.

I'm self employed, work full time but juggle my work to keep the summer free for childcare and take the financial hit.

So you DON'T work during the summer holidays. You are quite keenly trying to adjust the details to make it appear that you are struggling with full-time work and caring for children as much as the next full-timer, but you're not.

Now that's out the way – I think you're missing a big piece of the puzzle in that modern life has evolved beyond the capabilities of most families to have children and enjoy the ride. Finances, work, ageing parents, the breakdown of local communities, proximity to available friends and family ... the list goes on.

Well done for transcending it, I guess? But you've only managed to do so because you have the privilege of being self-employed and the ability to time your work appropriately. It's also luck that your 5 and 3yr old 'play beautifully'. Many people will have kids with sibling dynamics that are far less harmonious for various reasons.

I am full-time employed, as is my DH. We manage the summer holidays with the combo of a nanny and my parents in law. We are privileged enough to be able to afford a nanny and that my parents in law enjoy the childcare. Therefore I enjoy the summer holiday – we all get a break from the school routine and enjoy the good weather. I would never, ever disparage a parent who does not have that privilege and therefore the scope to find enjoyment in it. And neither should you.

Didimum · 18/08/2026 16:51

Sleepytimepleaseee · 18/08/2026 13:59

That's a lot of waffling on for someone who doesn't even have kids, especially when you seem to cast the majority of women as martyrs who are completely unsupported and unable to voice their needs or create change.

I think @WhatsUpWithGene 's post is spot on actually. No waffle about it.

Stressedoutmummyof3 · 18/08/2026 17:06

I don't know if you are being unreasonable. Going back to when I was at school (80s and 90s) in our area it was pretty common to have one SAHP and I can remember my mum (who was also SAHM) saying she didn't really relate to all the parents saying how glad they were their children were back in school in September. My parents had 4 children but my mum was like OP, loved being with her kids.
I also used to love the summer holiday when my DDs were young but with DS not so much. He does have autism and it affects him severely. He struggles with the holidays, lack of routine, too many people, too much noise and he loves school so term time is easier for us.
And of course some people have children who are not easy children or don't get on, have totally different interests and in those cases the holidays are going to be a struggle. Then as I think has been said you have working parents with no family support trying to juggle work and childcare.
If you have easy children then the holidays are the best time. If you have children that are less easy they can be a struggle especially at this point.

canklesmctacotits · 18/08/2026 18:06

Sleepytimepleaseee · 18/08/2026 08:21

Crikey, people have really got hung up on the "cruel blow". For the sake of anyone who genuinely thinks I said that children with disabilities are not worthy of love (wtf) or couldn't provide joy (again, that's other posters inserting their opinions under the guise of it being mine), I simply meant that while parenting is hard, when there medical conditions involved it's extra hard. That doesn't mean it's not enjoyable, which was the whole point of the post.
I do appreciate and agree that juggling childcare and working is tough, but I think that's a different complaint to people saying they can't wait for their kids to go back to school so they can have a tidy house/not listen to bickering/basically avoid spending time with their kids.

Still going, still digging yourself deeper, still trying to convince people you meant something other than what you said 😂. Nice work OP, keep going! It’s more fun than hanging out with my kids very entertaining!

OnlyUsername · 18/08/2026 18:25

Sleepytimepleaseee · 18/08/2026 13:59

That's a lot of waffling on for someone who doesn't even have kids, especially when you seem to cast the majority of women as martyrs who are completely unsupported and unable to voice their needs or create change.

It's not waffle at all. It's very well-observed. I expect you didn't like the bits quite rightly calling you out though.

Lemonyyy · 18/08/2026 22:27

Sleepytimepleaseee · 18/08/2026 13:59

That's a lot of waffling on for someone who doesn't even have kids, especially when you seem to cast the majority of women as martyrs who are completely unsupported and unable to voice their needs or create change.

You appear to have mistaken empathy for waffle, which I think says an awful lot about you.

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