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AIBU to think the PM is ignoring the asylum issue?

477 replies

BusyDog · 16/08/2026 06:33

I’m firmly working class, and I don’t believe that what we need is to spread the asylum seekers around more. The reason I’m annoyed is not because I don’t want them housed by the middle class, but because I think it’s completely ignoring the problem. I think we need secure detention centres whilst the country either approves the application or sends them off home. These will be safe, food provided, clothes, play areas for the children. The accommodation will have the basics like temporary housing does but they can’t leave until application approved or sent home. But they can’t leave and roam UK unless their application is accepted. Anyone who is violent etc and makes it not safe will automatically be sent home.
I liked this prime minister as I thought he had both feet on the ground, but it seems not….!
If he admits it’s not fair only working class has to deal with it, then surely, he admits it’s a problem and he’s not actually addressing it?

YANBU = PM ignoring actual issue
YABU = Issue is that only working class have to deal with them

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ComeAndGetBiriyani · 16/08/2026 20:04

smallglassbottle · 16/08/2026 19:57

Personally, I blame protestantism for the weakness, fragmentation and breakdown of the church. I'm not saying Roman Catholicism is amazing, just that it's remained somewhat stronger in the face of the push for breakdown of family and community structures. It has other problems, I know. The CofE is an utter disgrace though. Thoroughly infiltrated.

I mean women bishops, blessing gay marriages and interfaith iftars

parall · 16/08/2026 20:08

RedTagAlan · 16/08/2026 20:01

Ha ha. Is he a lawmaker ? Does he vote on laws ?

I couldn't possibly say due to his lack of presence when the Division Bell rings, I doubt he votes with the Gov when he is present tho.

BitOutOfPractice · 16/08/2026 20:08

smallglassbottle · 16/08/2026 19:57

Personally, I blame protestantism for the weakness, fragmentation and breakdown of the church. I'm not saying Roman Catholicism is amazing, just that it's remained somewhat stronger in the face of the push for breakdown of family and community structures. It has other problems, I know. The CofE is an utter disgrace though. Thoroughly infiltrated.

Mary I is that you? 😂

TeaAndALittlePeace · 16/08/2026 20:10

soddingspiderseason · 16/08/2026 19:12

In 3 weeks?! Don’t be so ridiculous.

Well he’s not going to make himself very popular if he starts spreading immigrants claiming asylum all over the UK is he?

Take the village of Paddington for example. They are going to house 1,250 so-called asylum seekers just half a mile outside a village of just 350 people. Don’t think Andy is going to very popular with them is he? If the same is going to happen up and down the UK, then he’s playing right into Farage’s hands. Still, maybe he sees the new arrivals as potential Labour voters.

RedTagAlan · 16/08/2026 20:17

parall · 16/08/2026 20:08

I couldn't possibly say due to his lack of presence when the Division Bell rings, I doubt he votes with the Gov when he is present tho.

Is he present at all :-)

EasternStandard · 16/08/2026 20:17

soddingspiderseason · 16/08/2026 19:18

Yes, the Tories set the system up and loads of their donors made millions- google Graham King and Clearsprings, who hold £1billion of Home Office contracts. And then remember who was Tory Hone Secretary and which party they are in now.

And now? With Labour’s barracks?

Its still private contractors -

Private defence contractors, facilities management companies, and real estate developers make money from barracks by securing government contracts for construction, maintenance, catering, and alternative housing conversions like asylum seeker accommodation

It’s interesting that anyone would think they don’t contract it out.

Wibble128 · 16/08/2026 20:30

Lilypad34 · 16/08/2026 17:34

This is the question no one seems to be asking. Why, why don’t they want to.

More fture labour voters in each boat. Chnages the voting base. We want to settle more immigrants in middle class communities, ermm wonder why that is? packing the ballot box.

Wibble128 · 16/08/2026 20:33

soddingspiderseason · 16/08/2026 19:12

In 3 weeks?! Don’t be so ridiculous.

You are seagull and I claim my £5.

smallglassbottle · 16/08/2026 20:34

ComeAndGetBiriyani · 16/08/2026 20:04

I mean women bishops, blessing gay marriages and interfaith iftars

Yeah 😄

smallglassbottle · 16/08/2026 20:36

BitOutOfPractice · 16/08/2026 20:08

Mary I is that you? 😂

😂 you got me!

parall · 16/08/2026 20:37

There will come a day, and maybe it's here already, where voting will be futile since those in power refuse to improve the lot of the citizens for reasons that just cannot be fathomed. And there's nothing we can do about it is there?

Changing the deck chairs on the Titanic won't change things either. Whoever is in power will do the same eventually, maybe with different PR strategies and messages, but the end result will be the same. Follow the money and mess with the citizens' heads at the same time.

BitOutOfPractice · 16/08/2026 20:47

smallglassbottle · 16/08/2026 20:36

😂 you got me!

I thought it was you or your mother!

dreamingofgoodhair · 16/08/2026 20:57

Pacificbeach · 16/08/2026 20:00

I think that’s why Rwanda was so clever.

That worked well 🙄

EasternStandard · 16/08/2026 21:05

dreamingofgoodhair · 16/08/2026 20:57

That worked well 🙄

It wasn’t really started but the threat of it was communicated and people did voluntarily flow to ROI via NI.

TeaAndALittlePeace · 16/08/2026 21:08

parall · 16/08/2026 20:37

There will come a day, and maybe it's here already, where voting will be futile since those in power refuse to improve the lot of the citizens for reasons that just cannot be fathomed. And there's nothing we can do about it is there?

Changing the deck chairs on the Titanic won't change things either. Whoever is in power will do the same eventually, maybe with different PR strategies and messages, but the end result will be the same. Follow the money and mess with the citizens' heads at the same time.

It feels like we’re here already.

Lilypad34 · 16/08/2026 21:21

Great post @smallglassbottle

SatansScrotum · 16/08/2026 21:24

"Spreading them round" sounds a lot like an idea for "mass buy new builds to prop up the building industry during a slowing housing market to offer mass housing with no room for local opposition"

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · 16/08/2026 21:25

scatterolight · 16/08/2026 14:33

My post was deleted. So I'm going to rewrite it using more delicate language.

The Labour party and Whitehall do not want to stop illegal immigration. They have internalised the upholding of "human rights" of illegals as the highest moral good. This trumps all financial, social and safety implications. They know there are dozens, even hundreds, of dangerous young men arriving every day but to their mind if just one legitimate "asylum seeker" is prevented from coming that is the greatest tragedy of all.

The thought experiment I'd ask everyone to imagine is if something happened to a family member of Andy Burnham, similar to the fates that met Wayne Broadhurst or Rhiannon Skye Whyte, what would the political result be? The answer is the same old shibboleths about "one bad apple", "mental health issues", "safeguarding failures", "not enough support". There would be no change. Our political elites are so brainwashed they would apply their ideological lens to their own tragedy. So they do not care one iota about what happens to anyone else as a result of their policies.

People need to understand this. There is no failure or incompetence here. The Labour party (and the Greens / Libdems) all believe that the costs faced by the British public from unvetted men are a price worth paying for the spreading of "global equity". They are extremists.

Until these zealots are thrown out of power this is going to continue and get worse and worse.

The saddest thing is over all I feel most people genuinely want to help those in need and I know some people who did have the space and willing to welcome Ukraine refugees.

I personally wanf us as a country to be a safe haven in the world , a beacon of moral integrity and compassion .
But we have to help those most in need and the most vulnerable which I would strongly suggest are women and children !
If after helping women and children there are spaces left...yes let's have some men !

ComeAndGetBiriyani · 16/08/2026 21:31

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · 16/08/2026 21:25

The saddest thing is over all I feel most people genuinely want to help those in need and I know some people who did have the space and willing to welcome Ukraine refugees.

I personally wanf us as a country to be a safe haven in the world , a beacon of moral integrity and compassion .
But we have to help those most in need and the most vulnerable which I would strongly suggest are women and children !
If after helping women and children there are spaces left...yes let's have some men !

And if the men attack the local women?

bluewanda · 16/08/2026 21:41

No right to education, outside air, running through a field etc.

Running through a field? Are you trying to argue that is a basic human right? My kids (British citizens) didn’t get to “run through a field” during their childhood - they grew up in a small flat in a city.

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · 16/08/2026 21:42

smallglassbottle · 16/08/2026 19:43

Bound to be. I also think they're under orders from elements that we don't really know much about other than they exist. The elites as they're known. Owners of corporations and banks, who can call the shots. They're very powerful and stay out of the limelight. The UK, and every other country, are in massive debt. He who pays the piper calls the tune kind of situation. They meet every year at Davos and discuss how they want things to be carried out ,then each country's representatives scuttle home and put in place what's been agreed.

I think a lot of it is ideological as well. Read up on the Fabian society. They encompass most every unwanted and sinister element of leftism. Every Labour PM ever has been a Fabian. Creepy communists who regard humans as interchangeable units who should have no loyalty to any country or culture. Soulless NPC units of production to be controlled by the state and be dependent on it.

I saw a video on youtube with Dominic Cummings and he was explaining that politicians actually have very little power and the shots are mainly called by the state bureaucrats and high up civil servants and the ministers are just the mouthpiece. He described it as an elaborate theatre designed to give the illusion of a democracy. People do seem to have a lot of faith in the voting process, but have you noticed that it's all bollocks really and the government do what they want anyway. Voters have no power.

Some of the beliefs skirt on the edges of conspiracy, but whatever the truth is, it goes towards explaining the strange actions of governments going back decades. We know what they're doing is hugely damaging and is going to change the face of the uk (and Europe) forever. I don't even know whether there's a mechanism to dial all this back. Nobody has the power and the populations are too fragmented to get together and seriously mount an effective rebellion. This is why they like the breakdown of the family unit, community and atheism.

The French rebel don't they remember the yellow jackets...but I don't know if it got them anywhere.

Yes minster says it all.

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · 16/08/2026 21:44

ComeAndGetBiriyani · 16/08/2026 21:31

And if the men attack the local women?

I think men in much smaller quantities could be safer than importing mainly men ?

bluewanda · 16/08/2026 21:44

Still, maybe he sees the new arrivals as potential Labour voters.

House them in marginal seats up and down the land and he could be onto a winner!

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · 16/08/2026 21:45
  • I don't know much about Sweden on this issue but it does seem like they have taken steps to assess this issue !
bluewanda · 16/08/2026 21:45

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · 16/08/2026 21:44

I think men in much smaller quantities could be safer than importing mainly men ?

“Could be safer” doesn’t really cut it though, does it? Women in this country shouldn’t be put at ANY greater risk, no matter how small.