AIBU to think the PM is ignoring the asylum issue?

[BusyDog]

I’m firmly working class, and I don’t believe that what we need is to spread the asylum seekers around more. The reason I’m annoyed is not because I don’t want them housed by the middle class, but because I think it’s completely ignoring the problem. I think we need secure detention centres whilst the country either approves the application or sends them off home. These will be safe, food provided, clothes, play areas for the children. The accommodation will have the basics like temporary housing does but they can’t leave until application approved or sent home. But they can’t leave and roam UK unless their application is accepted. Anyone who is violent etc and makes it not safe will automatically be sent home.
I liked this prime minister as I thought he had both feet on the ground, but it seems not….!
If he admits it’s not fair only working class has to deal with it, then surely, he admits it’s a problem and he’s not actually addressing it?

YANBU = PM ignoring actual issue
YABU = Issue is that only working class have to deal with them

Maybe change the rules if you don't have a passport a detention center Sweden also have detention centers anyway.

This is interesting
Perhaps they are the sort of person who accused me of lying when I said this was going on. Hopefully their children have learned something.

I am generally against demonising all men just because a minority of them do terrible things, and I know some lovely, kind men who have come from countries where women don't have the equal rights we legally have here, who have been nothing but respectful towards me and all the women I know, so I am certainly not saying all men from X place are a risk.
But having, say, 6 men to 1 woman, in some areas, is not a good idea.

Yanbu. AB is losing popularity fast by ignoring this issue.

You know, I just thought about what I posted and realised - no, I am wrong. Because they bought a safe space for their children - a private school, where there were zero illegal migrants pretending to be children, or zero illegal migrants' children. They lived in an area with zero illegal migrants. And now - when illegal migrants' children took priority for med school, they still got off scot-free - they had the money to send them to Poznan, to pay their rent (surprisingly high for what Poznan is) - so they had the money to circumnavigate this problem where migrants push natives out of all spheres of life (medical in this instance). So, basically, those woke liars are winning again - they resolved this issue again! !!!

Had Farage just declared the £5 million, then what?

@HollyhocksandPeons well let's hope the children are able to stay in Poznan because otherwise they will be bumping into this problem again.

If we had a load of detention centres, we'd probably be using them to detain criminals and wouldn't have to bother with the ERS.
We could build some, but probably best we concentrate on prisons first?
Meanwhile, people are waiting to be processed and they've got to be somewhere.

Quote : "When did he come to power?!!".

When he was elected an MP. MPs are also known as lawmakers. That is why we elect them.

They don't want to stay in Poznan! They are only there for their degrees.

In 3 weeks?! Don’t be so ridiculous.

Well I never realised he could change the law all by himself! Does he vote with the Government on their legislative program too? Every day's a schoolday eh.

Yes, the Tories set the system up and loads of their donors made millions- google Graham King and Clearsprings, who hold £1billion of Home Office contracts. And then remember who was Tory Hone Secretary and which party they are in now.

He doesn’t turn yo to vote at all; too busy counting his £5 million.

That's what I mean

If they come back here, they will be struggling for jobs and they will certainly bump into the reality of this problem

I'm probably oversensitive because I used to have one of hotels down the road from me. But it looks like more and more people are going to have this experience. And then, of course there is the prioritisation of international visas over domestic employment.

So if they can get a job over there, they might prefer that - but I'm guessing that Poland gives priority to citizens for work.

If I was them I’d stay in Poland.

As for Farages £5million that the Gov and left wing media are desperately trying to get him locked up for — if I had £5million I’d happily give it to Farage if he could sort out immigration

Bound to be. I also think they're under orders from elements that we don't really know much about other than they exist. The elites as they're known. Owners of corporations and banks, who can call the shots. They're very powerful and stay out of the limelight. The UK, and every other country, are in massive debt. He who pays the piper calls the tune kind of situation. They meet every year at Davos and discuss how they want things to be carried out ,then each country's representatives scuttle home and put in place what's been agreed.

I think a lot of it is ideological as well. Read up on the Fabian society. They encompass most every unwanted and sinister element of leftism. Every Labour PM ever has been a Fabian. Creepy communists who regard humans as interchangeable units who should have no loyalty to any country or culture. Soulless NPC units of production to be controlled by the state and be dependent on it.

I saw a video on youtube with Dominic Cummings and he was explaining that politicians actually have very little power and the shots are mainly called by the state bureaucrats and high up civil servants and the ministers are just the mouthpiece. He described it as an elaborate theatre designed to give the illusion of a democracy. People do seem to have a lot of faith in the voting process, but have you noticed that it's all bollocks really and the government do what they want anyway. Voters have no power.

Some of the beliefs skirt on the edges of conspiracy, but whatever the truth is, it goes towards explaining the strange actions of governments going back decades. We know what they're doing is hugely damaging and is going to change the face of the uk (and Europe) forever. I don't even know whether there's a mechanism to dial all this back. Nobody has the power and the populations are too fragmented to get together and seriously mount an effective rebellion. This is why they like the breakdown of the family unit, community and atheism.

Absolutely - Poland only treats all foreigners as cash cows, no way will they get a job in the Polish system, and on a separate note, they don't speak Polish, the studies are in English, and obviously they have enough to get by in the shops, etc. but nowhere near enough to be employed as a Polish-speaking doctor. But they were not the first ones to go down that route - so they think they will find employment here when they get back. But even if they spoke Polish, doctors' salaries there are very very low, and their idea is to rake in.

How do they cope with the language?

@smallglassbottle ”This is why they like the breakdown of the family unit, community and atheism”

yes, but even the church is no help. The poster who mentioned the long march through the institutions is absolutely right.

He can vote for or against. And speak for or against. That is the job of an MP.

Personally, I blame protestantism for the weakness, fragmentation and breakdown of the church. I'm not saying Roman Catholicism is amazing, just that it's remained somewhat stronger in the face of the push for breakdown of family and community structures. It has other problems, I know. The CofE is an utter disgrace though. Thoroughly infiltrated.

OMG I never knew this, I know nothing of Parliamentary procedure, I must try harder. 😉

I think that’s why Rwanda was so clever.

Ha ha. Is he a lawmaker ? Does he vote on laws ?