AIBU to think the PM is ignoring the asylum issue?

[BusyDog]

I’m firmly working class, and I don’t believe that what we need is to spread the asylum seekers around more. The reason I’m annoyed is not because I don’t want them housed by the middle class, but because I think it’s completely ignoring the problem. I think we need secure detention centres whilst the country either approves the application or sends them off home. These will be safe, food provided, clothes, play areas for the children. The accommodation will have the basics like temporary housing does but they can’t leave until application approved or sent home. But they can’t leave and roam UK unless their application is accepted. Anyone who is violent etc and makes it not safe will automatically be sent home.
I liked this prime minister as I thought he had both feet on the ground, but it seems not….!
If he admits it’s not fair only working class has to deal with it, then surely, he admits it’s a problem and he’s not actually addressing it?

YANBU = PM ignoring actual issue
YABU = Issue is that only working class have to deal with them

Oh dear, well what on earth should be done then? Gosh, what an awful pickle. Perhaps if we just viewed the situation more positively we could manage to feel better.

Look up operation sovereign borders. No one even on the left will vote it out. I’m willing to bet those who tell us we should just have what we do wouldn’t vote to end it it in Aus.

Btw I’m interested in your take that it’s not close economically or socially. It’s probably one of the closest countries culturally to here.

I think making detention of anyone who enters the country impossible by labelling it a “concentration camp” is manipulative. It’s obvious hyperbole and propaganda by people who are for open borders and want to stop the democratic will of the people.

I wonder what they are fleeing from?

Yeah, we're being manipulated left, right and centre. In here as well. It's ongoing, concerted and takes the form of all manner of arguments. Easy enough to sniff out.

Exactly.

Those who forget histroy are doomed to repeat it.

I suspect it's because they know history only too well that it's being repeated in order to dominate us now. They know what they're doing and they're doing it deliberately.

I wouldn't risk death to flee France.....

Money is god, we have higher benefits than France and houses instead of tents. My area is buying up houses for them.

Anyone who has adult children stuck with them because they can't afford to rentbor buy, be happy, it's for a good cause. And makes great sense economically of course.

There seems to be some people who buy into this idea that Islam will take over the UK. It is just nonsense. At current rates of birth and migration it would be hundreds of years before they even reached a majority. There have been some interesting demographic studies on it. But again, convincing people to be terrified of Muslims is proving very productive for certain political parties. They are investing a lot of resource into it and sadly some people fall for it.

It's not about numbers. Numbers are not important. Will is. That and being funded and facilitated by people both within and without the country. Don't you know your history? The Ottoman Empire? Spain? Persia? Lebanon? Egypt?

There’s also a lot invested in the idea people are in anyway vetted and that any upset against a crime is to be admonished.

Women and girls should be quiet about that. Idk why it’s so prevalent and accepted. Not letting what happened to Rhiannon Whyte and others is a basic duty of a government. Why do you think it isn’t? Who convinced you it’s not?

And terrified of Islam? Off you pop to Afghanistan or Nigeria (as a Christian) then.

So your answer to the debt is ignore it and spend more? And people like you wonder why the country is in such a mess with high taxes and a cost of living crisis.

Ok, well I’m genuinely sorry that you seem so scared. Muslim people do live here in the UK and that is not going to change. I have a few friends of that faith and they are nothing like you describe. But of course all individuals are different. The point is that they are here to stay and to most people that’s a good thing.

Many do. By the boatload every single day. Wonder why? 🙄

Absolutely not. My point was about a specific policy (Reform’s Operation Fortress). The negative effect on the economy of that policy would be of a different order of magnitude to the current costs of servicing the asylum system. But I’ve explained my view on this a few times on this thread and would only be repeating myself.

It's very sad when people think it's ok for the country to be dangerously over populated whilst people's taxes are being continually wasted and British people are struggling to live .

Do you see the U.K. and the countries the pp mentioned in the same way though?

Drawn by benefits and driven by ideology.

Not scared, more angry. I have a realistic view of said faith and know what's in the pipeline. It's nice that you have friends of course, but I prefer to look at the bigger picture.

Do I see the UK as the same as Nigeria or Afghanistan?! Obviously not, for so many reasons. What a daft question! I don’t feel this thread is really going anywhere.

You're talking absolute rubbish.

I bet your a boomer who bought a house for £20000 in the 90s. As long as your generation is fine and no one touches your pension you will keep voting Labour.