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BBQ party tonight

256 replies

Grumpynan · Today 08:29

We have planned a family get together this evening with a charcoal bbq in the garden. I hasten to add it’s a proper one not disposable.

should we still go ahead, or should I play save and cook the food indoors, what’s everyone else doing,

I mean, it stresses disposable bbq, says nothing about kettle ones in a garden. But I don’t want to cause any problems, and tbh we have a lot of trees around us and I’m a little worried, DH says I’m being silly but ?

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BlueMum16 · Today 10:58

BakedPotatoBeansCheeseColeslaw · Today 09:04

This reminds me of Covid when people were looking for reasons to get away with doing things they knew were wrong based on a technicality. Don’t have the bbq op - cook the food indoors.

This reminds me of COVID when people made up their own version of the rules.
The alert and news articles are about disposable BBQ. OP isn't using a disposable one

Whosthetabbynow · Today 10:59

See, it’s shit like this that necessitated the government alert.

Rpop · Today 11:00

Grumpynan · Today 08:29

We have planned a family get together this evening with a charcoal bbq in the garden. I hasten to add it’s a proper one not disposable.

should we still go ahead, or should I play save and cook the food indoors, what’s everyone else doing,

I mean, it stresses disposable bbq, says nothing about kettle ones in a garden. But I don’t want to cause any problems, and tbh we have a lot of trees around us and I’m a little worried, DH says I’m being silly but ?

We were going to have a bbq this evening too (food in fridge from online shop several days ago).

However, we are not. Thankfully DH has agreed with me not to. The distain from neighbours alone would be enough, let alone needless risk (we would be super careful with buckets of water etc but it’s still fairly crap behaviour when others have lost their homes and firefighters are risking lives).

HelpMeGetThrough · Today 11:01

concertinacornflake · Today 10:51

Let's have an ethical discussion - if your neighbour's BBQ starts a fire but there's a hosepipe ban, should you use your hosepipe to stop their house burning down or see it as natural justice?

I don’t have a hose, so he’d be buggered. Not sure a garden hose would be of great use with a house fire.

valadon68 · Today 11:01

NetZeroZealot · Today 10:47

Yes. If you read on it also says “ Never leave a household barbecue unattended and ensure it is fully extinguished after use.”

Saw that, not sure you saw my whole post. But anyway, I've made my point, probably best I get off MN and do something else!

Mrstawnyowl · Today 11:02

I woke up last night thinking about Andy Burnham’s tinderbox comment. I’m concerned and longing all the more for a decent spell of rain. Where are all the thunderstorms that we normally get between heatwaves? It wouldn’t be so bad if we were getting those as well as warm and dry.

Summersorcherisjustsummer · Today 11:03

Op I've only read the first page but unless your in a massive detached house miles from anyone please don't have the BBQ
Others will be panicking and bracing for loosing their homes just because someone wants flamed food. It's not worth it please don't.

PizzaPartyForOne · Today 11:04

The people saying they would continue clearly arent living in an area suffering with fires. In south Wales its been smokey for weeks due to the fires, the firefighters are working 16 hour shifts and people have lost their homes.

It’s scary how quickly these fires get out of control, a bit of common decency to everyone else and the fore service would be to eliminate the risk where everyone possible, just grill your burgers inside!!

Summersorcherisjustsummer · Today 11:04

@concertinacornflake yes I'd use my hose to douse my house as well

AnonyMumAuDHD · Today 11:05

Goodness - so long as you are using your BBQ on the patio and not on the floor in the middle of yellowed grass [ie like normal people], using a proper BBQ is fine. The risk of disposable BBS is that people light them and place them on the ground, usually in parks and gardens, so they can spark a fire. It;s not rocket scence.

Cannot understand the level of discourse on this. Just have your flipping BBQ as planned.

number1of7 · Today 11:06

God some of you love enforcing a rule. Huge difference between cheepo disposable bbq on bricks or a bonfire and a proper gas bbq. Which hasn’t been banned.

Shoxfordian · Today 11:07

It hasn't been banned, it's also cooling down now so it'll be fine. I don't think you need to cancel or amend your bbq

NotMajorTom · Today 11:07

number1of7 · Today 11:06

God some of you love enforcing a rule. Huge difference between cheepo disposable bbq on bricks or a bonfire and a proper gas bbq. Which hasn’t been banned.

Hasn’t been banned but anyone sensible would clearly think “maybe best not eh”

UniquePinkSwan · Today 11:10

NotMajorTom · Today 11:07

Hasn’t been banned but anyone sensible would clearly think “maybe best not eh”

A gas bbq is highly unlikely to cause a fire and I wouldn’t care if my neighbours had one

lanadelgrey · Today 11:11

I just don’t get why having the food cooked over charcoal is such a deal breaker. You are having some friends over for a meal in the garden, which is lovely and surely the main point of the evening. I would be watching nervously if there was a BBQ lit atm by my BBQ loving neighbours. Cook inside and bring it out, sure it’s a change in plans but you’d change them if it suddenly tipped down - soggy DH bring food inside possibly but you’d have still have the gathering still and have a nice evening

OneDreamyAquaEagle · Today 11:14

Cloudysky81 · Today 09:01

A non disposable BBQ is fine as long as you're using it safely. If it's a gas BBQ it's very safe. A charcoal one requires adequate safety measures.

It's specifically disposable BBQs that are banned because they are being left on the ground after use and the owners have gone home and starting fires.

An ember from a BBQ can only travel a couple of metres. Presuming you have a decent sized garden clear an area around it. Ensure you're watching it at all times and stay outside with it until it's fully out.

Even in Aus during bushfire season gas BBQs are not banned.
I would just read the Australian guidance on BBQ safety during bushfire season and do what they do.

Edited
  • Immediate ban on disposable barbecues introduced to help prevent further fires
People across England and Wales will receive an Emergency Alert on their phones today as the Government steps up action to protect communities from the growing threat posed by wildfires. The alert, that will be sent on a rolling basis from approximately 19:00, will warn people not to light anything that could spark a fire, including barbecues, campfires, and fireworks. Recipients will also be urged to report any fire immediately by calling 999.
OneDreamyAquaEagle · Today 11:15

NetZeroZealot · Today 09:17

The alert quite clearly referred to disposable barbecues. Self contained ones in gardens are allowed. Of course you should be sensible.

  • Immediate ban on disposable barbecues introduced to help prevent further fires

People across England and Wales will receive an Emergency Alert on their phones today as the Government steps up action to protect communities from the growing threat posed by wildfires.
The alert, that will be sent on a rolling basis from approximately 19:00, will warn people not to light anything that could spark a fire, including barbecues, campfires, and fireworks.
This guidance is somewhat contradictory!

Ginmonkeyagain · Today 11:15

@Sherararara good for you on doing a through and new risk assessment for a few cooked sausages, not sure of I could be arsed.

To be less sarcastic I am not sure I currently know the risk of fire in my garden as this situation is not at all normal and I have no idea how vegetation this dry will react to heat or even small sparks.

Rpop · Today 11:17

Livelovebehappy · Today 08:59

I dont think for a minute many people will take any notice of the ban on bbqs or fireworks/fires. Where i live its Asian wedding season. And yep. Fireworks going off last night from 9 til 1 this morning. No change there. And at least two neighbours on our road had bbqs last night. We live in a self entitled society i'm afraid where people just do their own thing and dont consider the environment they live in...

Fireworks here too the other night. Totally and utterly stupid.

99victoria · Today 11:17

Whosthetabbynow · Today 10:59

See, it’s shit like this that necessitated the government alert.

On the contrary - it's the alert that has caused all the issues because it was incorrectly sent out as an 'emergency' when it could have been sent as a public information text and it could have been more specific and given more guidance so that people didn't end up insulting each other like they are doing on this thread. They could have simply said 'do not have bbqs' but they didn't. So now everyone is getting hysterical - surely banning smoking would be the most effective way to stop wildfires!

Just heard on the radio that the Fire Service have had to put out a message asking people not to ring 999 to report their neighbours having bbqs!

PensionPTake · Today 11:22

I'm glad someone posted a link to the actual gov guidance. I said last night the alert was unclear re normal bbqs. Don't be surprised if someone dobs you in though lol

hoptart · Today 11:22

We’re going ahead with our planned BBQ at home today. The is nothing in the guidance prohibiting it and it’s perfectly safe. People have lost their minds over this, getting flashbacks to covid times. It’s like some enjoy the chance to overreact hysterically and virtue signal about how they’re going over and above to comply with rules that don’t even exist.

viques · Today 11:25

YouSawBrigadoon · Today 08:56

Our charcoal barbecue is in an outdoor kitchen area on concrete ground and with stainless steel work surfaces. A garden hose is right next to it. I could take a risk managed approach as there is zero risk of us starting a fire. We’re having friends over tonight. We’re not barbecuing, but we are going to cook pizzas in the outdoor pizza oven. Again, absolutely zero risk of starting a fire.

Congratulations. You get a 🏅for the most subtle boast post.

It’s only a silver, would have been a gold if you had pointed out that you could use the water from the swimming pool in the unlikely event of fire.😍

Anyahyacinth · Today 11:26

valadon68 · Today 09:19

Creating extra heat is a bad idea. I think we're all now more clued up about smoke affecting air quality. And third, your neighbours several doors down won't know what kind of fire it is when they smell smoke so you will be winding them right up.
Homes have just been destroyed, people are on edge, have a bit of respect for the spirit and importance of the alert, surely...

Someone was setting off fireworks yesterday morning near us. It just breeds irritation and anxiety at a time when we should be pulling together.

Love this

NotMajorTom · Today 11:26

hoptart · Today 11:22

We’re going ahead with our planned BBQ at home today. The is nothing in the guidance prohibiting it and it’s perfectly safe. People have lost their minds over this, getting flashbacks to covid times. It’s like some enjoy the chance to overreact hysterically and virtue signal about how they’re going over and above to comply with rules that don’t even exist.

You are part of the problem