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BBQ party tonight

256 replies

Grumpynan · Today 08:29

We have planned a family get together this evening with a charcoal bbq in the garden. I hasten to add it’s a proper one not disposable.

should we still go ahead, or should I play save and cook the food indoors, what’s everyone else doing,

I mean, it stresses disposable bbq, says nothing about kettle ones in a garden. But I don’t want to cause any problems, and tbh we have a lot of trees around us and I’m a little worried, DH says I’m being silly but ?

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NotMajorTom · Today 10:45

Happyjoe · Today 10:43

Isn't it the disposable ones, the ones that people take to fields, camping etc? I can't see the issue of a well-controlled BBQ at home, esp with a can of water for just in case.

You can’t see the issue? Really?

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · Today 10:45

i would have a bbq in our garden. It is a huge patio. There is no risk whatsoever. Only you know the risk in your own garden.

Disposable bbqs were specifically mentioned in the alert.

Manonhere · Today 10:46

What has the world come to? Its disposable BBQs that are the safety issue... a BBQ in your garden is fine, just keep a hose or bucket of water to hand just in case! 👍

NetZeroZealot · Today 10:47

valadon68 · Today 10:29

The same guidance that says this?

'The alert, that will be sent on a rolling basis from approximately 19:00, will warn people not to light anything that could spark a fire, including barbecues, campfires, and fireworks.'

I imagine they thought it was on balance better to remind people not to leave their banned BBQs unattended...

Yes. If you read on it also says “ Never leave a household barbecue unattended and ensure it is fully extinguished after use.”

Sherararara · Today 10:47

Even the Fire Service specifically mention disposable bbqs and not all bbqs. You all need to get a grip.

BBQ party tonight
Sherararara · Today 10:48

Manonhere · Today 10:46

What has the world come to? Its disposable BBQs that are the safety issue... a BBQ in your garden is fine, just keep a hose or bucket of water to hand just in case! 👍

Exactly.

MiceSpiders · Today 10:48

I wonder how many people kicking off about gas BBQs at home, smoke

concertinacornflake · Today 10:49

Happyjoe · Today 10:43

Isn't it the disposable ones, the ones that people take to fields, camping etc? I can't see the issue of a well-controlled BBQ at home, esp with a can of water for just in case.

You can't see the problem even though the problem is obvious.

There's always a risk with a BBQ, but a tolerable one. (There's a risk using the oven, or an iron, or hair straighteners, or anything hot ever, we all tolerate it.)

The problem currently is IF anything happened with your BBQ it would spread faster and the firefighters may not respond as quickly, so the risk of serious impact is much increased.

HelpMeGetThrough · Today 10:49

Manonhere · Today 10:46

What has the world come to? Its disposable BBQs that are the safety issue... a BBQ in your garden is fine, just keep a hose or bucket of water to hand just in case! 👍

A hose? If your neighbour is a mumsnetter they would have a nervous breakdown!! A BBQ and a hose, that’s a full house of anxiety right there.

Ginmonkeyagain · Today 10:49

I am not entirely sure people do know the risks in their own garden.

We are in an unprecedented situation in this country where it has not rained for over a month in some areas, add in the drying effect of repeated 30 degree plus heatwaves and pretty much everything in your garden is combustable.

SleepyHollowed84 · Today 10:49

Just do it but please be careful and don't expect the fire service to help you if you come into difficulty.

IslaLewis · Today 10:49

nutmeg7 · Today 09:41

It’s open flames that are the issue.

So how is an open flame on your patio going to cause a fire in nearby fields?

It's disposable BBQs that are the risk as they are put on the ground usually in fields and parks, and sparks can fly or they are left behind as litter when not fully extinguished.

Critical thinking is missing from this thread.

Sherararara · Today 10:50

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · Today 10:45

i would have a bbq in our garden. It is a huge patio. There is no risk whatsoever. Only you know the risk in your own garden.

Disposable bbqs were specifically mentioned in the alert.

Same. Made a loverly cooked breakfast in my outdoor kitchen this morning. Gas BBQ on my area.

user1464187087 · Today 10:50

UniquePinkSwan · Today 10:43

If someone reported me for having a gas bbq, I’d piss myself laughing.

I would be highly embarrassed. I would also feel bad for worrying the neighbours and the emergency services, who are very stretched at the moment. Including 999 call handlers.

DyslexicPoster · Today 10:50

GoldenSandy · Today 10:04

"any activity that could start a fire"

They probably hoped adults wouldn't need every activity listed.

Well cooking indoors and using candels can start a fire. Also having a electric vehicle. Squirels in your loft space. Power banks. Phone chargers.

Personally I'm not taking the risk. My phones is flat btw and typing thus via ESP..... there's some mild electrical brain function going on and I'm mostly water, so I don't think there is any possibility of a spark. But I'm not sure if I'm qualified to calculate thar risk after reading this thread.

I'm sure if you look at the statistics you have more chance of burning a house down from within than from a bbq. I know they are saying being carful right now because we in climate tinder box. But seriously using my gas hob is a fire risk. That is not what the alert meant.

"Any activity that start a fire"

Turning on a gas hob "starts a fire"

IslaLewis · Today 10:51

Ginmonkeyagain · Today 10:49

I am not entirely sure people do know the risks in their own garden.

We are in an unprecedented situation in this country where it has not rained for over a month in some areas, add in the drying effect of repeated 30 degree plus heatwaves and pretty much everything in your garden is combustable.

BBQs that are using charcoal do not have sparks.

Smoke yes- lots of it.

UniquePinkSwan · Today 10:51

user1464187087 · Today 10:50

I would be highly embarrassed. I would also feel bad for worrying the neighbours and the emergency services, who are very stretched at the moment. Including 999 call handlers.

There is no way they are coming out for a gas bbq. I’d be embarrassed to be the caller.

Sherararara · Today 10:51

user1464187087 · Today 10:50

I would be highly embarrassed. I would also feel bad for worrying the neighbours and the emergency services, who are very stretched at the moment. Including 999 call handlers.

Surely it would be the neighbours who should
be embarrassed for wasting emergency services time?

concertinacornflake · Today 10:51

HelpMeGetThrough · Today 10:49

A hose? If your neighbour is a mumsnetter they would have a nervous breakdown!! A BBQ and a hose, that’s a full house of anxiety right there.

Let's have an ethical discussion - if your neighbour's BBQ starts a fire but there's a hosepipe ban, should you use your hosepipe to stop their house burning down or see it as natural justice?

UniquePinkSwan · Today 10:51

concertinacornflake · Today 10:51

Let's have an ethical discussion - if your neighbour's BBQ starts a fire but there's a hosepipe ban, should you use your hosepipe to stop their house burning down or see it as natural justice?

No. Mumsnetters would like it.

Sherararara · Today 10:52

Ginmonkeyagain · Today 10:49

I am not entirely sure people do know the risks in their own garden.

We are in an unprecedented situation in this country where it has not rained for over a month in some areas, add in the drying effect of repeated 30 degree plus heatwaves and pretty much everything in your garden is combustable.

I know exactly the risks in my own garden which is why I will continue to use my BBQ, and fire pit.

daffodilandtulip · Today 10:55

And people questioned why we needed to use the national alert system to say there was a high risk of fires.

MiceSpiders · Today 10:55

To be fair there is a subsection of mums etters who hate BBQs at any time, won't someone think of the laundry! BBQs in the day and spider willies by night!

concertinacornflake · Today 10:56

IslaLewis · Today 10:49

So how is an open flame on your patio going to cause a fire in nearby fields?

It's disposable BBQs that are the risk as they are put on the ground usually in fields and parks, and sparks can fly or they are left behind as litter when not fully extinguished.

Critical thinking is missing from this thread.

You've misunderstood why people are saying better not to use BBQs at all - the primary risk at home is that if you need firefighter response, they are already busy, at a time when fire will take hold faster.

There are BBQ fires every week. This week the firefighters are already busy.

catspyjamas1 · Today 10:57

DyslexicPoster · Today 10:50

Well cooking indoors and using candels can start a fire. Also having a electric vehicle. Squirels in your loft space. Power banks. Phone chargers.

Personally I'm not taking the risk. My phones is flat btw and typing thus via ESP..... there's some mild electrical brain function going on and I'm mostly water, so I don't think there is any possibility of a spark. But I'm not sure if I'm qualified to calculate thar risk after reading this thread.

I'm sure if you look at the statistics you have more chance of burning a house down from within than from a bbq. I know they are saying being carful right now because we in climate tinder box. But seriously using my gas hob is a fire risk. That is not what the alert meant.

"Any activity that start a fire"

Turning on a gas hob "starts a fire"

My phones is flat btw and typing thus via ESP

😂😂😂

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