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To ask if you think the prime minister has a democratic duty to house asylum seekers in middle class areas

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CurdinHenry · Yesterday 10:22

By which I mean, would most voters support this as opposed to a change in policy to refuse in greater numbers? I honestly can't tell what "the majority" actually wants. I would prefer fewer having seen how things went in Germany thanks to the Merkel wave but I am willing to believe I'm a backwards old boomer and a majority would be more welcoming.

They (UK governments) tend to say they have no choice due to the echr but this isn't true. There are a lot of operational choices they could make (eg sometimes when people are denied entry at the border they are actually allowed into the country for a few days and instructed to report back to the airport when it's time for the removal flight).

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GunnelVallquist · Today 16:41

BeatrizBoniface · Today 16:34

Horrendous. Worse - I've actually seen it minimised on here, and posters deny that the women were victims of SA.

What is wrong with people 🤬🤬🤬🤬

GodDamnitDonut · Today 16:41

I agree that the tide has turned, we’ve had a few threads now with common sense prevailing and people openly saying they have had enough. It’s positive that the threads are no longer deleted after a single report and the accusation of racism. I still don’t think it is quite safe for people to express these concerns in real life, sadly.
I can also see more and more people online and in real life no longer bothered when the word „racist” is thrown around because it has become a joke.
we’ve spent too many years being unable to discuss valid concerns because of the political environment. It’s good to see it changing. It’s good to see European politicians pushing back too (Denmark, Poland, Italy, Hungary) .

TeaAndALittlePeace · Today 16:42

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:36

The Tory government had a good plan in Rwanda, until the human rights AKA judges put a stop to that. It's that kind of pragmatism we need now.

The number of migrants arriving fell by a third in 2023. And in early 2024, the Irish Governmenr reported that migrant were moving from Nothern Ireland to the Republic of Ireland. So it was proven to work. Until Starmer promptly cancelled it 🙄

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 16:42

Please, anyone who has concerns, all though you’re not technically part of the EU, you are European.

Please sign the save Europe act. It has been rejected but the stronger the voice the better.

https://www.save-europe-act.com/

Save Europe Act - Sign the Act

The Save Europe Act is the first ever campaign to launch a patriotic European Citizen's Initiative. Sign now to halt replacement migration, secure our borders, and protect the ethnocultural identity of European nations.

https://www.save-europe-act.com

ReviewToo · Today 16:42

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:36

The Tory government had a good plan in Rwanda, until the human rights AKA judges put a stop to that. It's that kind of pragmatism we need now.

I was responding to this comment because it linked to a comment that the only reason this particular base was chosen, was the spite of AB in choosing a Conservative council area.

This base was first suggested by the Conservative government and not connected to AB wanting to be spiteful….

HollyhocksandPeons · Today 16:43

You remember how those middle classes wanted to 'rub our noses' in it? Well, fair is fair, now is the time for their noses to be rubbed. We are all in it together, innit?

GunnelVallquist · Today 16:46

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 16:42

Please, anyone who has concerns, all though you’re not technically part of the EU, you are European.

Please sign the save Europe act. It has been rejected but the stronger the voice the better.

https://www.save-europe-act.com/

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I have heard about this but sadly I think it will just be ignored by the powers that be.

There seems to be no political will to sort this out.

The only two leaders I have seen step up recently (I know Hungary and Poland never let it get to that stage in the first place) are Giorgia Meloni and Mette Frederiksen.

Edited to say: leaders currently IN CHARGE

I know there are politicians both in the UK and elsewhere who’d like a go at sorting thus.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:46

GunnelVallquist · Today 16:41

What is wrong with people 🤬🤬🤬🤬

The likes of Owen Jones and the Guardian.

Bikenutz · Today 16:47

RoyalImpatience · Today 16:34

We also need limit that can claim asylum in each year and when that number is hit ,that's it for the year.

Easy to say, but difficult to implement. There are quotas for some of the settlement schemes but introducing a limit for asylum claims would require major legal changes and conflict with the UK’s international obligations.

GunnelVallquist · Today 16:48

GodDamnitDonut · Today 16:41

I agree that the tide has turned, we’ve had a few threads now with common sense prevailing and people openly saying they have had enough. It’s positive that the threads are no longer deleted after a single report and the accusation of racism. I still don’t think it is quite safe for people to express these concerns in real life, sadly.
I can also see more and more people online and in real life no longer bothered when the word „racist” is thrown around because it has become a joke.
we’ve spent too many years being unable to discuss valid concerns because of the political environment. It’s good to see it changing. It’s good to see European politicians pushing back too (Denmark, Poland, Italy, Hungary) .

Yes!

Just mentioned those four countries in my post.

GunnelVallquist · Today 16:49

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:46

The likes of Owen Jones and the Guardian.

I know the Guardian is fairly left wing. i’m guessing he is too then?

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 16:50

GunnelVallquist · Today 16:46

I have heard about this but sadly I think it will just be ignored by the powers that be.

There seems to be no political will to sort this out.

The only two leaders I have seen step up recently (I know Hungary and Poland never let it get to that stage in the first place) are Giorgia Meloni and Mette Frederiksen.

Edited to say: leaders currently IN CHARGE

I know there are politicians both in the UK and elsewhere who’d like a go at sorting thus.

Edited

It is worth a try at this rate. Eva is doing a European tour. She’s been banned from entering the Uk.

Dutch political commentator Eva Vlaardingerbroek was effectively banned from entering the UK in January 2026 after the British Home Office revoked her Electronic Travel Authorisation (ETA).

Crazy isn’t it. She’s banned.

Please sign.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:51

GunnelVallquist · Today 16:49

I know the Guardian is fairly left wing. i’m guessing he is too then?

He used to be one of their columnists; I'm not sure if he still is. I know his first reaction to the Oct 7 cinema video was that he saw no evidence of rape.

smallglassbottle · Today 16:52

suburburban · Today 16:27

Like new world order?

Who knows? It's well above all our pay grades. Shifty shit is going on though and none of us are escaping.

GunnelVallquist · Today 16:53

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 16:50

It is worth a try at this rate. Eva is doing a European tour. She’s been banned from entering the Uk.

Dutch political commentator Eva Vlaardingerbroek was effectively banned from entering the UK in January 2026 after the British Home Office revoked her Electronic Travel Authorisation (ETA).

Crazy isn’t it. She’s banned.

Please sign.

Yes, let’s ban everyone we don’t agree with 🙄

But the ‘right’ are the fascists???

I will sign

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:53

smallglassbottle · Today 16:52

Who knows? It's well above all our pay grades. Shifty shit is going on though and none of us are escaping.

As you say, it's our kids and grandkids who are going to suffer the most.

RoyalImpatience · Today 16:55

@Bikenutz then so be it

GunnelVallquist · Today 16:56

I’ve added my signature @EmeraldShamrock000

GunnelVallquist · Today 16:56

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:51

He used to be one of their columnists; I'm not sure if he still is. I know his first reaction to the Oct 7 cinema video was that he saw no evidence of rape.

Edited

There are no words

BeatrizBoniface · Today 16:58

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:51

He used to be one of their columnists; I'm not sure if he still is. I know his first reaction to the Oct 7 cinema video was that he saw no evidence of rape.

Edited

Of course, the girls and women were lying. Those who survived, that is.

GodDamnitDonut · Today 17:01

Bikenutz · Today 16:47

Easy to say, but difficult to implement. There are quotas for some of the settlement schemes but introducing a limit for asylum claims would require major legal changes and conflict with the UK’s international obligations.

Poland is being threatened by the EU on a regular basis and told to take their assigned quotas of migrants. We give you all this money and you’re not complying type narrative. The Polish politicians stand firm and refuse to comply , the country’s national safety and border safety interest takes priority over EU tantrums. All you need is some backbone from the people in charge rather than „oh it’s a bit tricky because the law says…”

GunnelVallquist · Today 17:01

BeatrizBoniface · Today 16:58

Of course, the girls and women were lying. Those who survived, that is.

What a vile human being.

I’d love to know what goes through some people’s heads. I really would.

BeatrizBoniface · Today 17:01

GunnelVallquist · Today 16:56

There are no words

I just think of poor Shani Louk, her broken body paraded on that truck by those animals.
Or those women with bloodied joggers.

EasternStandard · Today 17:02

BeatrizBoniface · Today 16:58

Of course, the girls and women were lying. Those who survived, that is.

The plea from Ilana Gritzewsky to the UN was heartbreaking. No apology, pls look at me. Just so sad.

The Green mayor with the October 7th stunt was also ridiculously cruel.

SpaceRaccoon · Today 17:04

Bikenutz · Today 14:57

Nothing of note has happened since the first wave of Syrians arrived over 7 years ago. 🤣 The local population knows them by sight if not by name, we exchange smiles at the school gate and the supermarket. It’s fine, but sorry to burst the bubble on your racist assumptions.

They were genuinely fleeing a war zone. Hence the difference.
(Not that it's stopped Syrians being hugely over-represented in sex crimes per the German stats, but still).

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