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To ask if you think the prime minister has a democratic duty to house asylum seekers in middle class areas

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CurdinHenry · Yesterday 10:22

By which I mean, would most voters support this as opposed to a change in policy to refuse in greater numbers? I honestly can't tell what "the majority" actually wants. I would prefer fewer having seen how things went in Germany thanks to the Merkel wave but I am willing to believe I'm a backwards old boomer and a majority would be more welcoming.

They (UK governments) tend to say they have no choice due to the echr but this isn't true. There are a lot of operational choices they could make (eg sometimes when people are denied entry at the border they are actually allowed into the country for a few days and instructed to report back to the airport when it's time for the removal flight).

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carbuncleonapigsposterior · Today 15:08

"Look up Belgian refugees in WW1" What sort of analogy is that? they all went back after the war to rebuild their country. It's hardly comparable with today's situation, I don't suppose too many of them sat around aimlessly around chewing khat and spitting it out, maybe they did, well at least not Hercule Poirot I can vouch for him Shock What do you mean he's a work of fiction? surely not!

Now on to the Huguenots!

EarthlyNightshade · Today 15:09

Dollymylove · Yesterday 12:28

Would you seriously want 1500 MEN dropped into your village of 800 residents who have paid hard earned money to live there?
All those who want more illegal men in the country should be forced to house them, at their own expense

How would that work?
If I took in two illegal men, would you be happy with them going out and about in my area (or your area), would you be happy with them having jobs, earning money, etc? Or should I be keeping them inside my house?

I honestly think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who wants more illegal immigration and small boats. I'm a bleeding heart lefty and I'd be happy to never see a small boat again, and deport any failed asylum seeker immediately.

More legal routes, yes. And more kindness to the people who are here legally and working, contributing to society.

DebbieSavage · Today 15:09

Bikenutz · Today 14:38

In your frothing anger did you actually read my post you absolute Neanderthal 😂

Asylum seekers are ALREADY housed in middle class areas. It’s ok. No one has been converted into a rabid racist by their presence.

Come to Rotherham, look a grooming gang victim in the face and call her a Neanderthal you stuck up, Middle Class oxygen thief.

localnotail · Today 15:09

BeatrizBoniface · Today 15:05

Unfortunately, I have come across some virulent antisemitism very much linked to migrants.

That would ne understandable (they would bring their prejudices with them) but I think the majority of the reported attacks were by pro-Palestinian crowd emboldened by the recent acceptance of a very negative view of Israel as a state and Jewish culture in general.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:09

localnotail · Today 14:31

Always been a flat piss smelling and boring city. With dirty water running down the streets in a futile attempt to clean (how about trying sweeping, no?)

😆 🤣

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:09

localnotail · Today 15:09

That would ne understandable (they would bring their prejudices with them) but I think the majority of the reported attacks were by pro-Palestinian crowd emboldened by the recent acceptance of a very negative view of Israel as a state and Jewish culture in general.

You're bang on there

FOJN · Today 15:10

TakeMeorLeaveMe · Today 14:55

On the other thread someone who claimed to be in the relevant circles said that the real reason is that a lack of options in cheaper areas mean more expensive housing is going to be needed. This is being suggested as fair to stave off complaints at the expense.

Other suggestions where that the motivation is to place future Labour voters in Tory areas or to target areas with “too many white people”.

Bicester and Woodstock constituency (Piddington) is Lib/Dem but a big swing from Cons.
Thirsk and Mold constituency (Linton on Ouse) was a conservative hold.
Bury St Edmunds and Stowmarket constituency (Burnham) is Labour.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:10

DebbieSavage · Today 15:09

Come to Rotherham, look a grooming gang victim in the face and call her a Neanderthal you stuck up, Middle Class oxygen thief.

😆 🤣 😂 😹

TakeMeorLeaveMe · Today 15:10

putupwhatever · Yesterday 16:14

so I live in one of the villages posed to have a 1500 open door asylum camp in the centre of it. The village has 700 people. residents/asylum seekers will be ratio 2:1. Will be 5:1 ration of men to women. We are 10 miles from the nearest town and there is nothing here except a school and playpark. Do I think this is us 'taking our fair share'. No, I think it is using one community as collateral damage for a national policy. The base is in the heart of the village. The park and family houses go right up to the base. There's no due process as the govenrment have changed the planning laws so they apply to themselves for planning rather than the local authority. I do live in a nice bit of Yorkshire, but the irony is this village is the affordable one as it has the ex MOD houses. It's totally heartbreaking how our small community will be totally matierially changed, but it is being branded as taking our fair share when it is anything but. For those of you not seeing a problem imagine your community being doubled in size with single men with literally nothing to do and nowhere to go. It's not even like the men will be settling here and part of the community, they will be here for 80 days so over a year there will be 1000s and 1000s of different men passing through. Totally awful. The worst thing is it will cost more than hotels as when they are telling you the figures they don't include the extortionate set up fees.

I sympathise hugely but I’m interested whether you think the answer is to house them elsewhere or to stop the influx?

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:11

You're going to be in trouble Debs @DebbieSavage x

bestchooseanother · Today 15:12

localnotail · Today 14:59

We have to accept that migration is going to increase and it will get to a point where we cant stop it even if we tried. What we need is a robust system aimed at processing migrants, getting them to work as soon as possible and contribute to economy, while deporting the ones that have criminal record etc. Not allowing any in between crap with people falling through the net and joining criminal gangs. We had Windrush and those people were massively positive for the country. Why not new incomes? But it needs to be tightly controlled. And deffo no spontaneous refugee camps in parks.

Many in Windrush already felt pretty British, they were taught more about British history, literature, geography etc than their own. They were culturally very close to us, as they were full citizens of the British Empire. It was shocking - and of course horrifically upsetting - when they discovered we didn't always feel the same about them. I don't think anyone doubts that eager, hardworking people (of any ethnicity) from culturally-aligned countries, who already love their new homeland and want to play their part in improving it, are a huge benefit to society, both economically and socially.

Random men from diametrically opposed cultures who show nothing but disdain and revulsion at their new country, and its culture, people and history, are really not the same as the Windrush migrants, and it is extremely offensive to lump them together.

DebbieSavage · Today 15:12

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:11

You're going to be in trouble Debs @DebbieSavage x

I know. Oh well.

BeatrizBoniface · Today 15:13

localnotail · Today 15:09

That would ne understandable (they would bring their prejudices with them) but I think the majority of the reported attacks were by pro-Palestinian crowd emboldened by the recent acceptance of a very negative view of Israel as a state and Jewish culture in general.

Yes, absolutely, I agree. Definitely emboldened by the hate marches. Those, together with people who have brought antisemitism with them, have formed an unholy alliance.
Just look at the Green Party.

Bikenutz · Today 15:13

probablyamunreasonable · Today 14:59

So it sounds like they are families, and probably arrived via an official resettlement scheme.

That’s quite different to the young men arriving on boats.

No, I am talking about asylum seekers, small boat people - not refugees who have the right to work, or Ukrainians on the resettlement scheme. Although we have some of those as well.

RoyalImpatience · Today 15:14

I have daughters and I'm already worried when they go out and I don't want to set us back a society by importing men from medieval cultures towards women.
We have already seen casea where girls have been attacked.
I can't understand why this is so hard to comprehend.

FOJN · Today 15:15

Bikenutz · Today 14:38

In your frothing anger did you actually read my post you absolute Neanderthal 😂

Asylum seekers are ALREADY housed in middle class areas. It’s ok. No one has been converted into a rabid racist by their presence.

You are a perfect example of a Reform recruiter. You'll deny it because you're a compassionate empathetic legend in your own mind who thinks if you could just bully everyone to your way of thinking the world would be perfect.

The hate you see everywhere is coming from you.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:15

Bikenutz · Today 15:13

No, I am talking about asylum seekers, small boat people - not refugees who have the right to work, or Ukrainians on the resettlement scheme. Although we have some of those as well.

This is the problem we have. We welcome those coming through legal channels. We don't welcome those coming illegally through the French channel! Why can that not be understood?

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 15:17

Bikenutz · Today 14:57

Nothing of note has happened since the first wave of Syrians arrived over 7 years ago. 🤣 The local population knows them by sight if not by name, we exchange smiles at the school gate and the supermarket. It’s fine, but sorry to burst the bubble on your racist assumptions.

What until the Afghanistan and Moroccan men arrive. You'll be in for an awakening.

Bikenutz · Today 15:17

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AndyKitten · Today 15:18

Bikenutz · Today 14:40

They already live in middle class areas. They integrate much easier when the local population isn’t hostile to them.

But housing is expensive in nice areas. Do you want even more of your taxes spent on them to house them in said nice areas? Thought not.

How do you integrate them?

An HMO with single young men, who don’t work, have no education, don’t speak the language in a place like, don’t know, Teddington for example.

No children at the local school, don’t go to church, don’t go to the pub, don’t volunteer at the local neighbourhood association, don’t water their neighbours plants when the neighbours are away.

How do you integrate them?

Bikenutz · Today 15:18

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 15:17

What until the Afghanistan and Moroccan men arrive. You'll be in for an awakening.

We already have them.

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Today 15:19

FOJN · Today 15:10

Bicester and Woodstock constituency (Piddington) is Lib/Dem but a big swing from Cons.
Thirsk and Mold constituency (Linton on Ouse) was a conservative hold.
Bury St Edmunds and Stowmarket constituency (Burnham) is Labour.

They should vote for Nigel Farage and The Reform Party next General Election if they have any sense his party is the only one who will put an end to this immigration madness.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 15:19

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Oh my god. You are despicable, a truly horrible person, your education was wasted on you.

RoyalImpatience · Today 15:20

Seymour5 · Today 14:41

Litter and flytipping are the norm in a part of Sheffield. Nothing to do with the so called ‘asylum seekers’ but around 7000 Slovaks who moved to the area thanks to Blair opening our borders to A8 nationals after they joined the EU, long before other Western countries.

Street fights are not uncommon, last week was the most recent resulting in arrests and temporary Stop and Search powers. Integration? They can’t even cohabit peacefully with others from their country.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/page-hall-disorder-after-latest-34406220

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7 thousand ? That's a huge group isn't it. Have they intergrated. Well seymour? I do wonder if such large groups even want to ? Need to ?

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:20

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Insults insults insults. It's all you know. Good luck with that "interface". You have no idea how you're really thought of by those you protect.

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