To ask if you think the prime minister has a democratic duty to house asylum seekers in middle class areas

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By which I mean, would most voters support this as opposed to a change in policy to refuse in greater numbers? I honestly can't tell what "the majority" actually wants. I would prefer fewer having seen how things went in Germany thanks to the Merkel wave but I am willing to believe I'm a backwards old boomer and a majority would be more welcoming.

They (UK governments) tend to say they have no choice due to the echr but this isn't true. There are a lot of operational choices they could make (eg sometimes when people are denied entry at the border they are actually allowed into the country for a few days and instructed to report back to the airport when it's time for the removal flight).

His duty is to ensure none get in. We need to preserve our culture and way of living, we can’t rescue all of the Middle East and Africa from themselves. We’ll go down in the process.
It’s only fair if asylum seekers are also housed in middle class areas and it means something will soon be done about this. Until now the middle classes could enjoy the non-waacist moral high ground because they were completely unaffected. A few of their daughters assaulted by these types will soon change things.,

It’s happening to almost all previously homogeneously white countries simultaneously at great speed and against the wishes of the populations. Anyone still convincing themself that it’s a benign, natural phenomenon is deeply deluded.

They already live in middle class areas. They integrate much easier when the local population isn’t hostile to them.

But housing is expensive in nice areas. Do you want even more of your taxes spent on them to house them in said nice areas? Thought not.

Litter and flytipping are the norm in a part of Sheffield. Nothing to do with the so called ‘asylum seekers’ but around 7000 Slovaks who moved to the area thanks to Blair opening our borders to A8 nationals after they joined the EU, long before other Western countries.

Street fights are not uncommon, last week was the most recent resulting in arrests and temporary Stop and Search powers. Integration? They can’t even cohabit peacefully with others from their country.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/page-hall-disorder-after-latest-34406220

Yes, like that BeatrizBoniface and we're beginning to emulate the worst of California. Once they relaxed prosecution over there of shoplifting under $1,000 some business in showcase cities such as San Francisco started to move out, leaving the opioid tent dwellers to it.

Debbie is pulling your leg.

Many people feel intimidated and unsafe in Whitechapel, you find comfort as you are used to that set up.
I don’t disagree that Paris is destroyed. I do disagree that the majority of European countries aren’t closely behind Paris.
Every local park close to me has strange men hanging around, some smoking drugs in bushes, using the bush as a toilet, staring at women. My friend lives in Germany, she has the same issues.

Why do you repeat this nonsense. As someone else has already pointed out there is a shortage of training contracts for UK trained doctors so why would we need immigrants to fill these jobs. There is a well established process for recruiting nurses from other countries. They arrive with jobs and visas already organised, they do not cross the channel in dinghies with nowhere to live when they get here. Initially their residency is tied to their job contract. We can selectively recruit for jobs where there are shortages. We don't need to allow tens of thousands to arrive and hope some of the people have skills we need.

I think British Jews would feel very unsafe in Whitechapel, Tower Hamlets and all other such migrant enclaves.

I agree.
Put the scrounging bleeders in tents on Benbecula and give them a few lumps of peat for fires and and some scrag end of neck to cook, with a few tatties.
I guarantee the scramble across the channel would abate within a month !

Until something does happen, when you can’t let your daughter out without supervision.
Or does the middle class air prevent men from committing sexual assault? Maybe all those who have a history of sexual assault should move there, since it’s so non hostile and changes the behaviour of rapists.

I would not be dramatic and say they are "destroyed" but it's definitely a shit show.

I've seen people begging and camping in parks in London - it's really crap as they seem to be part of an organised group - but what really pisses me off (more than how they got here) is why they are allowed to do that.

The issue isn’t that suddenly thousands upon thousands of people (young men mostly) from third world countries want to cone here. The issue is that western governments are enabling and encouraging it, at enough speed, in almost every previously white country. Does that not strike you as strange and in need of an explanation?

I don't know - but I've seen Orthodox Jewish families/ people in those areas and they seemed ok. There are a lot that can be seen around Stratford. They did not seem intimidated.

Not sure what the insult is for but Piddington is said to be pretty affluent and they do mind, they held a vote.

Labour are going for mass accommodation in barracks not housing anyway.

On the other thread someone who claimed to be in the relevant circles said that the real reason is that a lack of options in cheaper areas mean more expensive housing is going to be needed. This is being suggested as fair to stave off complaints at the expense.

Other suggestions where that the motivation is to place future Labour voters in Tory areas or to target areas with “too many white people”.

By integrate, do you mean assimilate fully into British society? Get a dog, go to the pub, cheer England on at the cricket, moan about the weather..?

Or do you mean insulate themselves within the same misogynistic, homophobic, racist, antisemitic cultures that built the very nations they claim to be fleeing from in desperation? If so, how exactly is it benefitting them - or us - to have such cultures embed themselves here, when we can very clearly see the horrifying results of the societies they create? Why on earth would anyone support this?

Nothing of note has happened since the first wave of Syrians arrived over 7 years ago. 🤣 The local population knows them by sight if not by name, we exchange smiles at the school gate and the supermarket. It’s fine, but sorry to burst the bubble on your racist assumptions.

If we can’t control our own borders, it makes a mockery of us. And what message does that send to the likes of countries like Russia?

I'm not sure about specific areas, but there has been a documented rise in antisemitism in the UK.
Jewish people do not feel safe, and that should be a serious concern.

We have to accept that migration is going to increase and it will get to a point where we cant stop it even if we tried. What we need is a robust system aimed at processing migrants, getting them to work as soon as possible and contribute to economy, while deporting the ones that have criminal record etc. Not allowing any in between crap with people falling through the net and joining criminal gangs. We had Windrush and those people were massively positive for the country. Why not new incomes? But it needs to be tightly controlled. And deffo no spontaneous refugee camps in parks.

So it sounds like they are families, and probably arrived via an official resettlement scheme.

That’s quite different to the young men arriving on boats.

Would you be ok with the barracks accommodation near you @Bikenutz?

There are specific areas that are being targeted by aggressive pro-Palestinian activists. Nothing to do with migrants as such as a lot of these protesters are homegrown.

Unfortunately, I have come across some virulent antisemitism very much linked to migrants.