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To ask if you think the prime minister has a democratic duty to house asylum seekers in middle class areas

564 replies

CurdinHenry · Yesterday 10:22

By which I mean, would most voters support this as opposed to a change in policy to refuse in greater numbers? I honestly can't tell what "the majority" actually wants. I would prefer fewer having seen how things went in Germany thanks to the Merkel wave but I am willing to believe I'm a backwards old boomer and a majority would be more welcoming.

They (UK governments) tend to say they have no choice due to the echr but this isn't true. There are a lot of operational choices they could make (eg sometimes when people are denied entry at the border they are actually allowed into the country for a few days and instructed to report back to the airport when it's time for the removal flight).

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EasternStandard · Today 14:24

localnotail · Today 14:05

Having just been to Paris I think we should be massively grateful re the number of migrating people we have in the UK. The area about Gare Du Nord is horrendous. I can't describe it in any way that is not going to sound rabidly racist. But it's really, really unpleasant and weird to see in France.

I haven’t seen this but is this what some pp have in mind when they say we have the space and they couldn’t care less.

TakeMeorLeaveMe · Today 14:24

ownedbymydogs · Yesterday 11:21

Ah, here is today’s ‘what should the PM do about asylum seekers’ thread.

In 5 minutes it will be ‘what should govt do about those pesky boomers living it up in their mansions they bought for a fiver’ thread.

It’s so obvious it’s almost laughable.

And I am NOT troll hunting.

Amazing isn’t it? It’s almost like it’s a really important issue which will affect our children’s lives more than any other or something.

localnotail · Today 14:24

smallglassbottle · Today 14:21

This is us in a couple of years though.

Like I said, I have been to France 20 years ago and it was a shit show even then - dirt, mess, piss. people living on the street, women lying on the pavement face down begging.

I hope we have less tolerance for this.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 14:25

Paris is long since gone. I wouldn't go there again and I loved that city.

TakeMeorLeaveMe · Today 14:25

FalseSpring · Yesterday 11:22

We have experience of immigrants being placed in rural areas (not necessarily a class-based issue). The problem is that they have nowhere to go and nothing to do so they become a nuisance. They need to be housed in urban areas where there is public transport and other facilities they can used, not in the countryside.

Nimbyism at it’s most blatant

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:26

JMSA · Today 14:21

Fewer and no thanks to living in my area. I work 7 days a week to keep my children and I living where we do.

Good. This is what we need.
It has been said, when the problem starts to impact the middle classes, the highly educated, then there will be changes implemented.
Maybe that’s his plan?

localnotail · Today 14:26

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:12

Grateful? We’re about a year behind France in terms of impact. Won’t be grateful for much longer.

Believe me, this did not look like a recent thing.

TonTonMacoute · Today 14:27

The problem with it is that housing in middle class areas is more expensive. More money for the taxpayer.

The fact that this doesn’t seem to have even crossed Burnham’s mind is very revealing. He does not get it at all.

Discontent regarding the housing of these unwanted, and often dangerous young men (bunch of young Afghans arrested recently for running a grooming gang all came into the country this way and claimed asylum) arriving almost daily has escalated very quickly this summer, and now he wants us to pay even more!?

LuckyHazelFox · Today 14:28

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:26

Good. This is what we need.
It has been said, when the problem starts to impact the middle classes, the highly educated, then there will be changes implemented.
Maybe that’s his plan?

We don't need their approval. Although sadly I think it's too late to pull this back.

Dollymylove · Today 14:29

I have an easy solution. Pull the plug on the hotels, the benefits, the phones, the days out, the cooking lessons, etc etc . Problem is its being made too attractive to come here and live off the British people.
I foresee unrest in a very big way if it carries on unabated

probablyamunreasonable · Today 14:29

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:26

Good. This is what we need.
It has been said, when the problem starts to impact the middle classes, the highly educated, then there will be changes implemented.
Maybe that’s his plan?

I think it could be and if it is he’s a very smart man indeed.

Even some of his own party’s MPs have changed their tune - previously very ‘refugees welcome’ but now opposed to having 1000+ men in their areas.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:30

localnotail · Today 14:26

Believe me, this did not look like a recent thing.

Have you seen the amount of homeless addicted people there are in society, streets once full of shoppers are full of vape shops, chippers, and homeless addicts, zombies.
It’s already happening.

TakeMeorLeaveMe · Today 14:31

Nomoreicecream · Yesterday 11:51

😆

Anyone remember when people used to say that unironically?

localnotail · Today 14:31

LuckyHazelFox · Today 14:25

Paris is long since gone. I wouldn't go there again and I loved that city.

Always been a flat piss smelling and boring city. With dirty water running down the streets in a futile attempt to clean (how about trying sweeping, no?)

smallglassbottle · Today 14:31

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:22

He is such a fool. He had the opportunity to make changes but his solution is to spread out the problem. What is it with all
these wet blankets in European governments who cannot tackle the issue.

They're not tackling the issue because they're facilitating it. They actively want this. They want us to be frightened, hurt and terrorised. Our governments are doing this to us!

carbuncleonapigsposterior · Today 14:33

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:12

Grateful? We’re about a year behind France in terms of impact. Won’t be grateful for much longer.

Whilst I haven't been to Paris for a while, I'm imagining the area described around the Gare du Nord might be similar to the encampments set up around Park Lane, with delightful odours of piss and shit wafting towards the capital's up market hotels, intensified right now by the heat. Incidentally, the deranged woman who stabbed random men with scissors in Covent Garden was allegedly from this community. I know these pop up tent city was cleared before, after a while, but just why is there again? or do we suffer from such a malaise now that nothing can be done when these illegal tent communities just roll up and park themselves.

bestchooseanother · Today 14:33

EasternStandard · Today 13:28

I’m not sure but I do feel for Piddington. It’s a tiny town.

It's really not a town, it's barely a village. Just a smattering of houses off the main road, halfway between a very beautiful National Trust village, and a very small town with a dogs' home, a burnt-out hotel, and not a lot else. It's also right in The Chilterns and is proper walking/cycling country, so there may be a lot of unhappy people if they suddenly find groups of men loitering in the fields when they're going for a hike, or in West Wycombe when they go sightseeing. But it could be true that a large proportion of these people may be the 'welcome refugees' type, so possibly it's no bad thing. There may not be a large opposition though as there really isn't much of anywhere around where a crowd might come from; people are more likely to just find new places to walk, and new NT villages to wander round. Poor Piddington, and poor West Wycombe.

GunnelVallquist · Today 14:34

I think you need to make your satire a little less obvious.

Oops…quote fail.

It was one of DebbieSavage’s posts.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:34

The fact that this doesn’t seem to have even crossed Burnham’s mind is very revealing. He does not get it at all.
Sure it is a longterm investment hmo scheme. It won’t be a problem for the government. It’s not like they’ll run out of tenants, cheaper than a hotel, put 7 single men in.

TeaAndALittlePeace · Today 14:35

LuckyHazelFox · Today 14:25

Paris is long since gone. I wouldn't go there again and I loved that city.

My daughter is supposed to be going there with the school next year. I’m honestly considering not sending her because of this. She’s only 9, and I’m not sure how comfortable I feel sending her there.

BeatrizBoniface · Today 14:36

carbuncleonapigsposterior · Today 14:33

Whilst I haven't been to Paris for a while, I'm imagining the area described around the Gare du Nord might be similar to the encampments set up around Park Lane, with delightful odours of piss and shit wafting towards the capital's up market hotels, intensified right now by the heat. Incidentally, the deranged woman who stabbed random men with scissors in Covent Garden was allegedly from this community. I know these pop up tent city was cleared before, after a while, but just why is there again? or do we suffer from such a malaise now that nothing can be done when these illegal tent communities just roll up and park themselves.

Like the one at Euston I posted upthread

localnotail · Today 14:37

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:30

Have you seen the amount of homeless addicted people there are in society, streets once full of shoppers are full of vape shops, chippers, and homeless addicts, zombies.
It’s already happening.

You really have no idea. I live in a poorer area of London and I've seen it all - been doing some work in Ilford, ffs! I can't get bothered by Whitechapel or Stratford. I'm fine with these places and feel comfortable. This was on another level. I did not feel unsafe - but it was still awful. Like a very crowded poor African refugee camp/ village transplanted onto a Paris street.

smallglassbottle · Today 14:37

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:26

Good. This is what we need.
It has been said, when the problem starts to impact the middle classes, the highly educated, then there will be changes implemented.
Maybe that’s his plan?

He's a fabian. That's not his plan. Fabians come in two types. Well meaning but thick, or very darkly sinister. Every Labour prime minister ever has been a Fabian.

Bikenutz · Today 14:38

DebbieSavage · Today 14:11

Oh don't worry. Housing these men in pleasant little villages and hamlets up and down the country is going to make a whole bunch more 'racists' as you would describe them.

You have no idea what you've just done by making sure the entire country gets to see the benefits of having people who are entirely untouchable by order of the state roaming around doing whatever the hell they want to.

But by all means, tell us all why men from third world countries who saunter over on inflatable dinghies have more of a right to live in nicer areas of this country than someone like me who has ancestors dating back for hundreds of years at the very least. That will do so much for cultural cohesion.

In your frothing anger did you actually read my post you absolute Neanderthal 😂

Asylum seekers are ALREADY housed in middle class areas. It’s ok. No one has been converted into a rabid racist by their presence.

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