To ask if you think the prime minister has a democratic duty to house asylum seekers in middle class areas

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By which I mean, would most voters support this as opposed to a change in policy to refuse in greater numbers? I honestly can't tell what "the majority" actually wants. I would prefer fewer having seen how things went in Germany thanks to the Merkel wave but I am willing to believe I'm a backwards old boomer and a majority would be more welcoming.

They (UK governments) tend to say they have no choice due to the echr but this isn't true. There are a lot of operational choices they could make (eg sometimes when people are denied entry at the border they are actually allowed into the country for a few days and instructed to report back to the airport when it's time for the removal flight).

I agree with that. Shame really, as that post about the middle class translator was actually quite funny.

Only 10 percent of those were actually granted asylum

How many failed asylum seekers from that era were actually deported, how many were eventually allowed to stay on appeal/given an effective amnesty and how many disappeared/address unknown?

In July 2006, Labour's then Home Secretary had to apologise to the House of Commons after it was revealed that the Home Office had up to 450,000 unresolved asylum cases, having previously stated it was half that number;

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2006/jul/19/asylum.immigrationasylumandrefugees

All immigration? Including for essential roles such as surgeons? Doctors? Cancer specialists? You do you, but personally I’d rather have someone originally from another country treat me when I’m having chemo than stay on a waiting list.

Are they not needed in the countries they're poached from, the counties whose taxpayers funded their education?

Ironically, Clacton was mentioned yesterday;

12 August 2026
A fifth man has been charged over a small boat landing on the north-east Essex coastline.
The boat was spotted on the beach at Holland-on-Sea, near Clacton-on-Sea, on 1 July.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clylp7y753zo

They just watch GB News and that's enough for them

To be fair, BBC Essex and other regional and local news outlets will have reported on dozens of modern slavery and sex trafficking cases (involving foreign nationals) heard at Ipswich and Chelmsford Crown Courts. There are probably foreign nationals sleeping rough in those locations as well, then you've got reports of migrants being found in lorries coming through Harwich. All places Clacton residents will be familiar with.

I think we need better social planning around housing in general. For a long time housing has been treated in isolation by developers but actually there needs to be more of an onus on building/developing communities that promote safe and integrated neighbourhoods through housing planning. Simply giving people a house and expecting them to crack on doesn't work well even when it's entirely local people of a single identity so it's madness to continue approaching it in this way.

I'm not against migration at all i think expecting human beings not to seek to survive or move to a location where they can provide a better life for themselves or their children is inherently dehumanising. There's not a single person in this country who wouldn't seriously consider emigrating if roles were reversed and they were unsafe or unable to raise their children safely here.

That being said I'm not advocating for a free for all either. We need a significantly overhauled system that processes people faster, allows people to work and earn their way while they are waiting on applications being assessed and insists on active integration practices/supports from point of arrival.

That is not counting according to land mass. We are not the size of Germany, Spain or France.

I have no interest in these people apart from noticing that there have been a string of high profile cases where the defendant(s), accused of serious sexual offences, had a genuine, heartfelt belief that they had done no wrong and were simply taking what was rightfully theirs.

They are not my people. I never voted for them to be in this country.

I am not convinced that they contribute anything to our country.

I resent my taxes being used to pay for their upkeep and I resent them using my public services.

I assume you mean his constituency of Makerfield by this? I can assure you that is far from a middle class area.

Yes human life is a zero sum game. But that means colonising, dominating and destroying other cultures. I don't really get why you're fine with this happening to you.

How many do you think we could accommodate a year roughly if done in this way?

As an economic migrant in MENA fr the last 27 years, here is how t works. We take our specialist skills to their country because they need us. We work for large salaries, quality housing and comprehensive healthcare. When we are 60, they thank us and send us home because they don't owe us anything. I would be petrified of reaching 60 and being sent to a country with zero safe healthcare and no control over its borders or people. Maybe I can claim asylum so I don't have to return to the UK where my medical condition will probably kill me the first time I need emergency care. What gives people the right to plonk themselves in another country and demand not only the benefits reserved for citizens but also a national identity and passport of a country they think is a Kafir pile of crap.

I think it's a good idea to make sure that people from all sections of society are affected by any policy like this regardless of what the government does or doesn't do alongside to control numbers. As progressives are forever saying, privilege is often invisible to those that have it and if you live in a nice area where you have the privilege of being insulated from any negative consequences of taking in refugees then the least we can do as a society is to try and make you aware of it. I feel the same about school exclusion policies. There's never enough money for pupil referral units so excluded kids end up going to the local sink school (happened in my school anyway). Why not send them to the best state schools? If anyone can afford to have their education disrupted, it's those kids, and if that's not fair, why is it fair that it happens to poor kids?

Once your politics graduate from the sixth form common room, life isnt fair. It never will be. Once you accept that, you will be able to start actually doing realistic things that actually affect your environment. My parents run a homework club in the village hall with laptops bought from lottery funding. Children whose homes are chaotic or crowded or any child for any reason get a meal and a quiet supportive space which is often the only safe space they have. They are retired teachers and dont benefit personally, they do it because it was something that they could offer. They are total champagne socialists, like you but at least they actually do something.

That's brilliant, what a great initiative.

I was a volunteer literacy tutor when I lived in the UK. I now live abroad and I have twin teenage daughters and a full time job so I've given it up for now but I am hoping to once return to tutoring when I have a bit more time. But it shouldn't be up to me or your parents to paper over the cracks in a school system that does not cope with disruptive kids. I don't remember many lessons at my schools until the age of 14 where there wasn't someone kicking off, I knew one of them from outside school and he had a story that would have provoked sympathy in anyone but having sympathy doesn't mean you should be OK with letting him disrupt the education of 25 other kids because he couldn't calm himself enough to sit down and work. Our teachers would just go "what can you do?" and throw their hands up. Our parents didn't even complain.

Go on any education thread and parents will always complain about how strict schools are. There was a thread running about "petty" rules, which according to some posters - included punctuality and safeguarding!

Oh, and UK schools are "pearl clutchers" about knives. Go figure.
So many UK parents do not support firm boundaries in place when it applies to their child.

Well maybe if borders were not open, there would be less pressure on schools and the NHS and citizens could not die and get educated? And if freemasons didnt control planning fir their mates, infrastructure would be part of planning permission.

This seems to be Labour’s approach rather than address the issues. Spread the suffering around over anything else.

They aren't just fine that it's happening to us, they actively revel in it. You just need to spend 5 minutes with an avowed leftist to see where the motivation for all of this lies.

And the crazy part of it all is; it won't end well for them either.

That's very worthy of them. All children need that kind of support and it shouldn't be along racial lines.

They don't see it. Case in point? Zack Polanski.

He's a gay Jewish man isn't he? I might be a white woman but I reckon even he might have a lot more to be afraid of if this multicultural utopia doesn't pan out in the way everyone is telling us it will.

Yes, gay and Jewish. Certain members of his party won't even sign the equality agreement.
I wonder how long he'd last in Gaza?

Brendan O’Neill has the right idea. My left-leaning Green voting in-laws live in Bristol and think there’s nothing wrong at all with immigration. They hate Farage and Reform. In that case, sending them to places like Bristol and Brighton, where they will be welcomed with open arms, seems like the obvious answer 🤷‍♀️

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/13/theres-only-one-fair-place-to-place-illegal/