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To ask if you think the prime minister has a democratic duty to house asylum seekers in middle class areas

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CurdinHenry · Yesterday 10:22

By which I mean, would most voters support this as opposed to a change in policy to refuse in greater numbers? I honestly can't tell what "the majority" actually wants. I would prefer fewer having seen how things went in Germany thanks to the Merkel wave but I am willing to believe I'm a backwards old boomer and a majority would be more welcoming.

They (UK governments) tend to say they have no choice due to the echr but this isn't true. There are a lot of operational choices they could make (eg sometimes when people are denied entry at the border they are actually allowed into the country for a few days and instructed to report back to the airport when it's time for the removal flight).

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DebbieSavage · Yesterday 15:34

Kgfs · Yesterday 15:33

She said she would date them herself

Are you saying you wouldn't? If not, why not? I have a feeling I know why but I just want to see you squirm.

hotmumshit · Yesterday 15:35

Very left wing here

Everyone should be housed everywhere, not just asylum seekers

But yes, new poor migrants should be housed among the wealthy to relieve tensions among people in already deprived areas.

BeatrizBoniface · Yesterday 15:38

Kgfs · Yesterday 15:33

She said she would date them herself

😂😂😂

BeatrizBoniface · Yesterday 15:38

hotmumshit · Yesterday 15:35

Very left wing here

Everyone should be housed everywhere, not just asylum seekers

But yes, new poor migrants should be housed among the wealthy to relieve tensions among people in already deprived areas.

"housed among the wealthy"
What would constitute "wealthy"?
Wouldn't such housing be very expensive?

ReviewToo · Yesterday 15:39

Badbadbunny · Yesterday 15:14

It's clearly the politics of hate, spite and envy in play yet again.

A bit like how our Labour controlled council closed down several libraries which all just happened to be in Tory voting villages and small towns! Funny that.

None in Labour villages were closed.

It makes more sense to house them where there are cheap and plentiful availability of housing. So, yes, sadly, the already run down areas. But if the local police/councils were given adequate funding, they could be controlled and not cause local disruption/crime/anti social behaviour etc. Trouble is that wherever they're put, the police/councils don't get enough funding to actually supervise and control them, so crime and A/s behaviour will almost inevitably increase.

If anything, they need to spread very thinly across all areas of the country, so that any potential negative effects are diluted. Housing them in huge numbers in ANY small area is going to cause problems.

Funny as it is the opposite here…a Conservative led LA who ‘adjusted’ to the year on year budget cuts made by the Conservative government. I’m talking £5m+ each year. As staff we were ‘congratulated’ on our savings, had roles added to ours as many staff were made redundant (for instance one service cut from 135 staff to 15 - no less work, just a poorer offer), encouraged academisation to run down LA school services, insisted staff took pay cuts and unpaid holidays, have libraries run by volunteers, closed and sold buildings, withdrew desk and office space …etc etc.
Message from Conservative council, ‘🎉 hasn’t it all worked well, nothing to see here’….(and of course roles are politically sensitive and controlled).

Now the same Conservative council make such a big deal of any changes, threaten closure of the most basic services and have cut massively services to children and parents, creating a huge, negative press. All Labours fault…of course! 😆🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

It is all spin!

Kgfs · Yesterday 15:43

DebbieSavage · Yesterday 15:34

Are you saying you wouldn't? If not, why not? I have a feeling I know why but I just want to see you squirm.

I have my DH

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Yesterday 15:44

CurdinHenry · Yesterday 15:07

I mean I don't agree where I live, which is really overcrowded and difficult for essential workers to live, but even if there were "room" I still don't want to live with people who think I'm inferior to them because I've got female genitalia!

That’s not the only reason you would be considered inferior. Depending on your religion, you may also be considered an infidel or kafir.

DebbieSavage · Yesterday 15:46

Kgfs · Yesterday 15:43

I have my DH

Cop-out, you know what you are insinuating. I see you. Hopefully your children aren't so 'selective' in who they choose to fall in love with.

CurdinHenry · Yesterday 15:51

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Yesterday 15:44

That’s not the only reason you would be considered inferior. Depending on your religion, you may also be considered an infidel or kafir.

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Migrophobic now I have heard it all898

Tbh if it means I fear mass migration of illiterate men from countries where extreme violence and corruption are normal then... Why is that bad?

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Kgfs · Yesterday 15:55

DebbieSavage · Yesterday 15:46

Cop-out, you know what you are insinuating. I see you. Hopefully your children aren't so 'selective' in who they choose to fall in love with.

I'd chose someone with culturally compatible values to mine thanks.

DebbieSavage · Yesterday 15:59

Kgfs · Yesterday 15:55

I'd chose someone with culturally compatible values to mine thanks.

And that is why the people of the world call us 'Little Englanders'.

Fortunately not all of us are as exclusionary.

Digerydont · Yesterday 15:59

They should be housed where they are welcome, i.e. left wing constituencies

Agrumpyknitter · Yesterday 16:00

EasternStandard · Yesterday 15:24

You’re missing asylum figures in early 2000s. It was 103k pre Brexit.

You’re also missing migration issues with EU countries.

There were 35 737 asylum applications made in 2019 as opposed to 111’000 made in 2025. My stats are from the gov website I don’t know what figures you are referring to.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:05

Agrumpyknitter · Yesterday 16:00

There were 35 737 asylum applications made in 2019 as opposed to 111’000 made in 2025. My stats are from the gov website I don’t know what figures you are referring to.

I said early 2000s, ie pre Brexit.

In 2002, the UK recorded 84,130 main asylum applications (or around 103,000 to 111,000 people including dependants). This total marked a major historical peak for British asylum claims that stood as the record for over two decades before being surpassed in recent years

Why do you believe asylum claims weren’t high before Brexit?

Kgfs · Yesterday 16:10

DebbieSavage · Yesterday 15:59

And that is why the people of the world call us 'Little Englanders'.

Fortunately not all of us are as exclusionary.

The culture of England and Afghanistan are miles apart. Afghani men aren't exactly known for feminism

YourAmplePlumPoster · Yesterday 16:11

Let's not forget tenants who have been evicted so private dwellings can be changed into HMOs for asylum seekers.
Millionaire Liverpool GP behind asylum seeker hotels - BBC News https://share.google/vhr2PAD47g2gtWras

Dr Faisal Maassarani has short brown-blonde hair, is wearing a blue suit and an open-necked pink shirt. He is standing in his surgery in a clip from a BBC health programme called The Truth About Carbs in 2018.

Millionaire Liverpool GP behind asylum seeker hotels

A firm founded by a GP tried to evict 100 people from flats while planning to move asylum seekers in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgvn4rr03vo

ReviewToo · Yesterday 16:13

DebbieSavage · Yesterday 15:59

And that is why the people of the world call us 'Little Englanders'.

Fortunately not all of us are as exclusionary.

Yes, just look at how British ‘expats’ (posh name for immigrants) live abroad.

All living in the same areas, British shops, bars, food…not learning the local language, speaking in English when out socially.

Seeking a better life, through cheap housing, rents, use of free healthcare & local schools.
Only Brexit has limited this.

My family lived in Spain, the horror exclaimed on an all British urbanisation was ‘a SPANISH family have bought a house here’ ….

Quine0nline · Yesterday 16:13

Why just Europe? Surely the opportunity of jobs and development make china and Taiwan welcoming? What about the other BRIC countries - Brazil, Russia, India.

Racist to insist on just Europe.

putupwhatever · Yesterday 16:14

so I live in one of the villages posed to have a 1500 open door asylum camp in the centre of it. The village has 700 people. residents/asylum seekers will be ratio 2:1. Will be 5:1 ration of men to women. We are 10 miles from the nearest town and there is nothing here except a school and playpark. Do I think this is us 'taking our fair share'. No, I think it is using one community as collateral damage for a national policy. The base is in the heart of the village. The park and family houses go right up to the base. There's no due process as the govenrment have changed the planning laws so they apply to themselves for planning rather than the local authority. I do live in a nice bit of Yorkshire, but the irony is this village is the affordable one as it has the ex MOD houses. It's totally heartbreaking how our small community will be totally matierially changed, but it is being branded as taking our fair share when it is anything but. For those of you not seeing a problem imagine your community being doubled in size with single men with literally nothing to do and nowhere to go. It's not even like the men will be settling here and part of the community, they will be here for 80 days so over a year there will be 1000s and 1000s of different men passing through. Totally awful. The worst thing is it will cost more than hotels as when they are telling you the figures they don't include the extortionate set up fees.

Kgfs · Yesterday 16:16

ReviewToo · Yesterday 16:13

Yes, just look at how British ‘expats’ (posh name for immigrants) live abroad.

All living in the same areas, British shops, bars, food…not learning the local language, speaking in English when out socially.

Seeking a better life, through cheap housing, rents, use of free healthcare & local schools.
Only Brexit has limited this.

My family lived in Spain, the horror exclaimed on an all British urbanisation was ‘a SPANISH family have bought a house here’ ….

That's wrong of them to do that.

BeatrizBoniface · Yesterday 16:17

That's dreadful, @putupwhatever.
Just a stream of thousands of transitory young males, no job, no family with them. What are they going to do? Just hang around?

EmeraldRoulette · Yesterday 16:18

@putupwhatever I can’t imagine how you must be feeling

Those are the situations where I genuinely think the government are expecting as many people as possible to leave and they will let the newcomers take over the Village

It’s beyond words really

and somehow people are still ignoring it or down playing it or even saying that it’s a good thing

I do wonder if there is a quiet realisation that it’s a massive problem though

We haven’t seen a lot of idiots marching with banners saying “refugees welcome” have we? Not recently, but maybe that’s just because it’s too hot. Or because these are all the type who go abroad for the summer?

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 16:18

In my daydreams I certainly wish that asylum seekers could be housed right next to the Hampstead folk who preach at us about being welcoming to absolutely everyone who pitches up here.

I truly wish people would have the humility to listen to those who do find themselves in this situation before virtue-signalling.

Should say - I have no problem with legal immigration at all. i do fear the chaos which random arrivals inevitably cause. If everyone is allowed to stay - where, in the name of God, are they all going to live? We're always being told there's already a housing crisis here.

Make it make sense!

BeatrizBoniface · Yesterday 16:19

EmeraldRoulette · Yesterday 16:18

@putupwhatever I can’t imagine how you must be feeling

Those are the situations where I genuinely think the government are expecting as many people as possible to leave and they will let the newcomers take over the Village

It’s beyond words really

and somehow people are still ignoring it or down playing it or even saying that it’s a good thing

I do wonder if there is a quiet realisation that it’s a massive problem though

We haven’t seen a lot of idiots marching with banners saying “refugees welcome” have we? Not recently, but maybe that’s just because it’s too hot. Or because these are all the type who go abroad for the summer?

Oh my neighbour still has that poster in his porch. We are many miles from where any asylum seekers are housed.

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:19

Dappy777 · Yesterday 14:09

It isn't a duty, but I'm sure it WILL be a pleasure. Never underestimate how much the British left hate, and I mean HATE, middle-class English people, especially in the south east of England. The thought of ruining their lives by dumping hundreds of young men on them brings them absolute joy.

The left pose as morally superior, and think of themselves as 'the goodies', when in reality they are more hate-filled than any Trump supporter. But because their hate is directed towards middle-class Daily Mail readers, somehow it doesn't count. Not only are they hate-filled, they're also breathtakingly intolerant. A speechwriter for Blair said their plan was to "rub the right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date." Spoken like a true fascist. Either you agree with us, or we'll ruin your life.

Fabians. The ultimate dogs in a manger.

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