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To agree with Andy Burnham that it’s about time the middle classes took their fair share

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Morningteacup2 · Yesterday 18:11

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/11/burnham-middle-class-areas-must-take-more-hotel-migrants/

Not a huge fan of Labour I must say, but this is well overdue!

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lavendarwillow · Yesterday 21:04

So Andy Burnham has no plan, other than to spread illegals far and wide? To what end? It’s a serious question because a plane load comes in every day. People are in dire straits financially, yet the government has the money to house never ending illegals. Let’s also be honest, even if you live in a middle class area, it’s only ever a stones throw to the nearest poorer area. Everyone is affected whatever your ‘class’.

Freud2 · Yesterday 21:05

Summerhillsquare · Yesterday 19:34

Source please.

Would you like some anecdata? 😁My encounters with more recent arrivals (in my fairly poor bit of the UK) tend to be in healthcare facilities, at work, on buses and in my street. Funnily enough I can't seem to find these unskilled and non English speaking types. Even outside our local asylum hotel they are chatting shit in English. My neighbour speaks 3 languages fluently, including English. She's from India, very pleasant woman, a nurse. This evening's bus driver was Nigerian.

Now tell me about these marvellous benefits... I assume you are on them yes, to know, and you enjoy a similar life of luxury?

I've never been on benefits but I do know the figures involved. It is well publicised that a lot of benefits are more than the minimum wage, especially if you have children.

Whenwillitrainagain · Yesterday 21:06

Summerhillsquare · Yesterday 18:43

"these men" and their wives and children will be paying our pensions, which I personally am all in favour of.

Come on, don’t be ridiculous. Paying our pensions? 🤣
What fantasy world are you living in?

Freud2 · Yesterday 21:06

Freud2 · Yesterday 21:05

I've never been on benefits but I do know the figures involved. It is well publicised that a lot of benefits are more than the minimum wage, especially if you have children.

And what's all this about them talking shit?!

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 21:07

This thread @LuckyHazelFox in page 8

For some reason I can’t link but it’s this:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/thirty_days_only/5564985-surely-someone-could-have-intervened-to-help-this-baby

RoundedRobin · Yesterday 21:08

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 18:29

I often think with threads I’d like there to be an indicator system where certain demographics of posters have to br displayed if you wanted to post (so like on MIL threads, it would display if you were a MIL or DIL).

On this thread I’d like it to display

  • are you middle class?
  • do you live in a 90% + white area?
  • have you every called a working class person racist for complaining about the effects of mass immigration on their community?

Yes
Yes
Absolutely not - am vocal in my support to my mainly lefty Guardian reading friends and colleagues. Probably helps that I'm only a generation removed from working class, inner city poverty though.

OneAmberFinch · Yesterday 21:10

MrsKateColumbo · Yesterday 20:43

I live on SW London/Surrey borders where you need 1mil to buy a house. The 4* hotel nearby for a couple of years housed Afghans who had worked for the UK government before the withdraw (and also British women escaping DV). It worked relatively well- one man got "a bit stabby" with another man in the hotel but part of the reason it worked is they already had their families with them, I actually thought it was fair enough as their employer was the reason the Taliban were after them. I dont know where they went because it's the hotel again now. I think they should be the exception though, the ones coming now just need to be returned

The Afghan scheme was quite badly handled. Many people who came here had their applications accepted despite not doing anything particularly valuable for the UK, because their applications had been involved in a data breach.

(And many people who came through the Afghan scheme did help in special forces operations. I'm just using this to reinforce my earlier point: the bars to entry for very many "socially acceptable" legal visa schemes are not as high as people imagine them. Some people who clear the bar are great. But it's not a guarantee that everyone on that route is someone we want in Britain.)

BlackRowan · Yesterday 21:13

So the whole drama about Southampton asylum seekers hotel - this is a very middle class area. Why the assumption that they are in some magic not middle class areas?

OneAmberFinch · Yesterday 21:13

are you middle class? yes, but not the Green/LibDem voting kind
do you live in a 90% + white area? no - London - I don't think there are any 90% white areas in London!
have you every called a working class person racist for complaining about the effects of mass immigration on their community? no, and never would! I'm usually the one complaining and being called racist!

igglepiggll · Yesterday 21:14

Summerhillsquare · Yesterday 18:57

UK birthrate catastrophically low. We must import younger fitter people to do essential jobs and pay taxes.

Smaller population = smaller costs eg less pressure on NHS, less services required, less doctors needed etc etc. Importing people is an excuse. Importing masses of unvetted illegal men is down right dangerous.

Birth rates fall and then go backup again.

How quickly have the twin towers been forgotten.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 21:14

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 21:04

Not fake. The video is linked on another thread.

...and these middle class lefties still don't believe what's really going on.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 21:18

Where are the 73 per cent of posters saying you are being unreasonable @Morningteacup2 these comments aren't talking with the vote!

SeriaMau · Yesterday 21:21

Seashor · Yesterday 18:24

I have no objection to living near asylum seekers. I have a HUGE problem with ANYONE living near illegal immigrants,. No one should be able to live here illegally. A political party that can not or won’t protect its boarders is not fit to govern.

Remind me again why an illegal immigrant can’t seek asylum?

Livelovebehappy · Yesterday 21:22

Stop them coming, then no-one will have to take their ‘fair share’. It turns my stomach seeing all those men reaching our shores. We need to post our own police/security on the French side, because the millions we’re paying the French to do that job is an obscene waste of money. They literally just stand and watch them climb on the boats.

suburburban · Yesterday 21:23

Livelovebehappy · Yesterday 21:22

Stop them coming, then no-one will have to take their ‘fair share’. It turns my stomach seeing all those men reaching our shores. We need to post our own police/security on the French side, because the millions we’re paying the French to do that job is an obscene waste of money. They literally just stand and watch them climb on the boats.

Yes better use of the money

we can’t continue to have them coming

Cyclebabble · Yesterday 21:24

Most of the new camps being targeted are in rural areas which would traditionally have been voting Conservative. They might reasonably be regarded as middle class. The camp close to Thetford (RAF Burnham), falls into this category. In nearby Diss we have similarly had a reasonably large number of refugees housed, though these were Afghan families who did not really provide any issues.

The challenge is that in these rural areas there will be no extra policing and refugees would be able to roam at will. This understandably leaves us rural dwellers feeling very exposed.

TeaAndALittlePeace · Yesterday 21:24

suburburban · Yesterday 21:23

Yes better use of the money

we can’t continue to have them coming

Exactly. Where will it end? The people defending it are totally deluded. I wonder if they’ll change their tune when it comes to their area?

SeriaMau · Yesterday 21:25

Dappy777 · Yesterday 19:55

Deep down, the left hate middle-class English people. HATE them. So the thought of ruining their lives by dumping hundreds of young men on them is delightful.

Don’t know. I’m left wing and middle class. Don't think I hate anyone really. Who should I be hating?

caringcarer · Yesterday 21:26

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 18:22

Nope they all need to be deported immediately not housed and allowed to stay.
Nobody should have to put up with these men in their community

👏👏

TeaAndALittlePeace · Yesterday 21:27

lavendarwillow · Yesterday 21:04

So Andy Burnham has no plan, other than to spread illegals far and wide? To what end? It’s a serious question because a plane load comes in every day. People are in dire straits financially, yet the government has the money to house never ending illegals. Let’s also be honest, even if you live in a middle class area, it’s only ever a stones throw to the nearest poorer area. Everyone is affected whatever your ‘class’.

Labour don’t have any substantive plans to stop them coming or reduce the numbers arriving by any real margin.

They just plan to ‘process’ them quicker and give them ‘easier routes’. whats that going to do, other than encourage it even more?

Minokee · Yesterday 21:27

I am probably middle class, live in an area that is 90%+ white British. Grew up in the 80’s in a London borough that was 90% white British and now it’s around 30%. The town is unrecognisable from the place I grew up in and no I have never called a working class person racist for those reasons.

Olive123456 · Yesterday 21:30

Summerhillsquare · Yesterday 18:57

UK birthrate catastrophically low. We must import younger fitter people to do essential jobs and pay taxes.

They mostly only work in low paid jobs, don't pay tax and receive benefits.

GentleSheep · Yesterday 21:30

Waterbaby41 · Yesterday 20:37

I would rather he find a permanent solution to stopping illegal immigration.

This.

Ghostiescotchie · Yesterday 21:31

Mr Burnham can do his part and call a general election because he has no mandate and I think he’ll find the middle classes want him out.

MidnightMeltdown · Yesterday 21:32

How is it a ‘fair share’? We didn’t ask for them to come here.

The extremist left wing imbeciles who want them here should put them up in their own homes. Why should everyone else have to put up with it?

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