To agree with Andy Burnham that it’s about time the middle classes took their fair share

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/11/burnham-middle-class-areas-must-take-more-hotel-migrants/

Not a huge fan of Labour I must say, but this is well overdue!

Yeah the boats are full of psychiatrists and surveyors.

Per capita migrants men from 3rd world countries commit more sexual offenses. We see what happened in Cologne all those years ago

As for care, it used to be completely respectable and respected for school leavers to go into nursing. They didn’t go to uni, they trained on the job. Lots of it involved cleaning and personal care. It was a very middle class route. Lots of them didn’t do it for ever but they were paid enough for uni students to seem the poor relations.

Nowadays we all want our kids to go to uni. If you are middle class it costs you a lot of money. They all have psychology degrees and can tell you exactly what mum did wrong. Hardly any of them can get decent graduate jobs or afford a home of their own. Surely the old way was a better route?

She said stop bombing the crap out of said places.

The problem is it needs to be not just the British Air force but other air forces as well. However, as radical and crazy as it sounds, desperate times call for desperate measures so maybe a 10 year hiatus on anyone bombing the Middle East would help.

Why is it increasing with Burnham?

You are a Jason Arday, Professor of Calling White People Racist, graduate aren't you?

They all have psychology degrees and can tell you exactly what mum did wrong.

I am sorry to hear that.

Absolutely.

I think that's a very cynical thing to say about people fleeing persecution and looking for a better life from themselves. The assumption is that they will integrate and find themselves a partner from the local area, I know a lot of young British women will benefit from an expansion in the dating market. All I had to choose from when I was young was white British men!

Jesus wept.

My daughter teaches in a deprived area. Her class has no British-born kids. She’s seeing daily the results of ingrained misogyny and cruelty and domestic abuse, even though most of her students can’t speak English. Their fathers apparently don’t like their kids learning the language particularly and she feels they don’t like them being taught by a woman.

How is this helping those kids? How is this enriching our nation?

He would if he read this thread.

Would you rather your daughter date a decent white British man or a Afghan man?

Do you want a genuine answer to that? Because why I think, right now, is because he has only been PM for a few weeks and that isn't long enough to show a statistical trend. One boat is the difference between a sudden drop and a big rise. In addition, every summer sees a rise in crossings and every winter a drop because it's seasonal. So you need to look at it on a year on year basis.
But maybe there are other factors and he has opened the gates, who knows. I would say wait until the end of the year and see what the stats say then? Fingers crossed for the guys in team drown em all that they get the results they sincerely want.🤞

“And as for the suggestion elsewhere on this thread that these men are coming because they want British womene bodies talk about flattering yourselves.”

Well that has got to sum up the thread.
What next? Accusations that those on the left are hoping to bag a fit youngish toy boy fresh off a boat?

The only reason they want to come to Britain is because they think the streets are paved with gold. Women in the UK have been raped and sexually assaulted by these men and there’s plenty of videos on the internet of women showing that they’re being followed by them. School girls also feel unsafe walking around their local area. it’s not a case of ‘British women flattering themselves’ how fucking dare you

They are coming because there is free housing and free money. It’s not about Empire.

We should stop them coming in the first place.

Some are being trafficked, which is a human tragedy.

And others are camped out in France and are perfectly safe and well in a developed country with plenty of job opportunities so can stay where they are, get the necessary experience, then apply to come here legally.

And a small minority are no doubt coming for nefarious reasons.

I've recently read a book by Zahra Joya who's an Afghan journalist who was given asylum in the UK along with some of her family after the Taliban came to power. Of course a lot of Afghan men came over too at the time because they'd worked for the British. And yet she writes that when she was first here and in a hotel they used to treat the women really badly and were shocked to find that the British police would do something about it. So even though they'd been granted residency here, they thought the women should live like they would have done under the Taliban. I don't want people like that here - at all, never mind in the "naice" areas.

Yes a genuine answer as if you think Starmer did something different to Burnham I’m wondering what that is.

But what exactly do you mean by “men from third world countries”, and where are the UK per capita rape statistics that prove your claim?

Cologne was horrific. Nobody is denying what happened to those women. But a mass sexual assault in Germany on New Year's Eve 2015 doesn't establish the rape rate of millions of people from developing countries, nor does it establish the rape rate of migrants or asylum seekers in Britain.

If you're making a per capita claim, you need actual data the number of offenders in the group, the size and demographic make up of that population, and a genuinely comparable rate for the rest of the population. Look at Cologne isn't a per capita statistic.

In fact, the ONS has explicitly said it doesn't hold crime statistics broken down by asylum seeker or migrant status. So where is your figure coming from?

And while we're discussing sexual violence, the latest ONS evidence shows victims of rape or assault by penetration were considerably more likely to report that the perpetrator was a partner or ex partner than a stranger.

Sexual violence is an enormous problem and women deserve better than having their experiences turned into ammunition for an immigration argument. If the evidence shows a particular group presents a greater risk, then show the evidence and let's discuss it. But nationality, immigration status and third world countries aren't interchangeable categories, and Cologne isn't a statistic for Britain.

You cannot deport them? To where? They have no
passports and yet we allow them in on their lies.

The huge boat the other day will show the gangs the way forward.

Burnham isn’t going to solve anything in this area but he seems very keen on solving paid subscriptions that are tricky to cancel.

DebbiesSavage just said exactly that!

Nope, he can do one - we’re already doing our bit by subsidising this sh1tsh0w. Knock on our door when everyone else is paying 40% tax.

They are ALL coming from a safe, developed country - France. Let them stay there.

I don't have a daughter, but if I did I would want her to be happy. I don't see a lot of women happy with British men these days so maybe she would fair considerably better looking elsewhere no?