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To agree with Andy Burnham that it’s about time the middle classes took their fair share

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Morningteacup2 · 11/08/2026 18:11

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/11/burnham-middle-class-areas-must-take-more-hotel-migrants/

Not a huge fan of Labour I must say, but this is well overdue!

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igglepiggll · Yesterday 08:37

olivepicanto · 11/08/2026 23:05

So, asylum seekers then?

No illegal economic migrants. Genuine asylum seekers would have some women in the group, around 50%.
Not ONE in this group.

DefiantRabbit9 · Yesterday 08:37

Fuck no. That's like saying you should let someone steal your car if you can afford another one. They are criminals.

suburburban · Yesterday 08:41

igglepiggll · 11/08/2026 22:16

Welcome to modern Britain where the majority of the population is male.

Yes they should be looking at what happened after WW1, not good

ChattyKnickers · Yesterday 08:42

Maisey1991 · Yesterday 08:35

We have had 0 problems with the asylum seekers in our community, if you think it’s only
men coming here means your thick enough to believe the mass hysteria around it. The only problem we had was when the council estate spread enough rumours around itself and decided to send Molotov cocktails and bricks through the windows of the hotel where terrified children were sleeping :) they then got relocated for their own safety.

Would you house any in your home?

Pplareasthickasshit · Yesterday 08:42

Windsurf · 11/08/2026 23:20

My pronouns are they them.

No one gives a shit.

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 08:43

The whole asylum racket needs to be shut down. Leave the ECHR and Refugee Convention, if that's what it takes.

We can help more people through our foreign aid budget than we can if we accept the most pushy males, who may or may not be drug dealers, rapists, murders, terrorists etc. All we're doing is enriching the likes of Serco and activist lawyers who feed off this racket.

I do agree with Burnham in the sense that if the likes of all the pro-asylum BBC journalists living in Hampstead etc found themselves next door to an HMO full of Afghan or Sudanese males, I think those people would soon change their tune. At the moment HMOs are set up only in the poorest neighbourhoods.

ChattyKnickers · Yesterday 08:44

No one has the ultimate right to be in this nation expect for UK citizens

probablyamunreasonable · Yesterday 08:44

If you vote YABU in this poll, but you think we should take in refugees (just in poorer areas), you are part of the problem.

GinaOaktree · Yesterday 08:47

Morningteacup2 · 11/08/2026 18:11

We shouldn’t be accepting them full stop.

suburburban · Yesterday 08:52

TeaAndALittlePeace · 11/08/2026 23:35

Oh bore off with your colonisation lecture! That happened hundreds of years before anyone in this country was even born. You won’t find it very easy to find any country in the world that doesn’t have a completely innocent past.

And why should the people alive in Britain today, or future generations have to make up for the past deeds of people we never even met for goodness sake!

Well said, I’m sick to death of this being trotted out

we have had loads of immigration since the 50s anyway

igglepiggll · Yesterday 08:52

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 06:55

It’s not going to happen. As explained somewhere previously, all the cheap hotels are in ‘cheap’ working class towns and seaside resorts.

They are running out of “cheap hotels” in poorer areas. Hence why the government wants to ship them into more affluent areas. I have heard this from a reliable individual. Andy B trying to be “fair” is a lie and a media dampener for when they spend on expensive hotels.

igglepiggll · Yesterday 08:58

Poll doesn’t seem to match the volume of comments here. Funny that.

A tiny village, Piddington is set to receive its first illegal migrants. The village has around 300 adults and 50 children. They will be receiving 1,250 adult males.

This is deliberate damage.

TheOutlier · Yesterday 08:58

Burnham really seems to hate the middle classes! What is so wrong with paying your taxes, abiding by the law and working hard! I despise his class warfare and his Northernism. The PM should represent all regions of this country. It isn’t a race to the bottom. He was elected by nobody except those voters in Makerfield. It’s a putsch.

Maybe the middle classes should go on strike and he can see how the country fares then?

Putting illegal migrants in more expensive areas is just going to cost taxpayers even more. I presume he doesn’t care about the cost be cause the people he calls “working class” don’t pay much tax.

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 08:58

Windsurf · Yesterday 08:15

Having a good snigger at this?

"That's all you've got"

Disgusting.

It’s interesting how women’s safety and wellbeing suddenly isn’t important for some when defending mass immigration? See also the response to the grooming gangs, Cologne etc etc.

MsJinks · Yesterday 08:59

I’ll bite again - the illegal immigrants are not the majority of those arriving by boat. They’re the ones who overstayed whatever visa they came in on and went to ground - as it happens they remain illegal they cannot access housing, other than angel care from the NHS, benefits or anything else folk think the ‘illegals’ are taking from them.
The majority of those on boats claim asylum - once they have claimed this they are not ‘illegal’ - if they were they wouldn’t be in hotels or other accommodation.
Mainly the only way to claim asylum in the U.K. is to enter irregularly and claim at port. This is under the UNHCR right to claim asylum where you feel safe, upheld by U.K. case law and applied within our own immigration rules - leaving the ECHR wouldn’t change this much, but it would restrict our own rights - so there’s that to look forward to I guess - sigh.

suburburban · Yesterday 08:59

Vanillaicelatte · 11/08/2026 23:02

When the Afghans came here a few years ago
my niece was in the highest band for getting a property (she needed a fully adapted house with stair lift / wet room due to her disability and needs

within weeks of them coming to our city the house she was offered was withdrawn
we found out later it was given to an afghan family as we had the address and had a friend who lived in the next street

luckily our MP ( who is labour unfortunately ) is actually excellent or rather her staff are and within a few weeks my niece was offered another house that was in the process of being adapted after our MP wrote several strongly worded letters

it was perfectly clear that my niece who is British, born in England with a serious life limiting disability was bumped for a family who had just arrived

I don’t blame the people they are only doing what is best for them and their family

it’s what Will Smith said in Bad Boys
hate the game not the players 😂

Yes I have heard of this situation before 20 years’ ago, anecdotal so I can totally believe it, how many times has it happened before

LakieLady · Yesterday 08:59

RedToothBrush · 11/08/2026 18:19

Isn't this exactly what Farage said a few months back to wind up the Greens?!

That Green voting areas should take more migrants if they are so pro-immigration.

The problem with the policy is that pointy elbowed middle classes are more likely to find ways to block this than less well off / educated areas - just as they are with house building. It will be just more opportunities for the NIMBYS.

Crowborough in East Sussex is very middle-class and they have asylum seekers in a former army training camp. The locals are very pissed off about it and have a demonstration every Sunday morning.

It's right on the southern edge of the town, and in the Ashdown Forest, so only close to a tiny number of homes and you wouldn't really know it was there as you drive past. I've driven through the town centre a couple of times and you certainly don't see groups of men hanging around.

There's also a huge amount of misinformation, eg that it's costing the council £500k pa, when the only info that I've been able to find is that the council got nearly £300k from the Home Office and are getting (iirc) £100 a month for every asylum seeker accommodated there. There are also stories about an increase in crime that I haven't able to substantiate, and the town is among the safest in the entire police force area (two counties and a city, so a fairly big area).

My BIL and SIL live there, albeit nowhere near the camp, and I've gone very low contact with them because they seem to have nothing to talk about other than how awful it is. Their latest cause for outrage is that people from an asylum seeker and refugee support group have been taking small groups of asylum seekers out for walks in the forest.

The forest is nearly 10 square miles, a couple of hundred asylum seekers would hardly be noticed even if they all went there at once!

My town is very middle class and I think asylum seekers would be welcome here. There has been an active refugee support group here for decades. I don't think there are any buildings that would be suitable though. Maybe when they close County Hall in a couple of years, they could use that.

suburburban · Yesterday 08:59

MsJinks · Yesterday 08:59

I’ll bite again - the illegal immigrants are not the majority of those arriving by boat. They’re the ones who overstayed whatever visa they came in on and went to ground - as it happens they remain illegal they cannot access housing, other than angel care from the NHS, benefits or anything else folk think the ‘illegals’ are taking from them.
The majority of those on boats claim asylum - once they have claimed this they are not ‘illegal’ - if they were they wouldn’t be in hotels or other accommodation.
Mainly the only way to claim asylum in the U.K. is to enter irregularly and claim at port. This is under the UNHCR right to claim asylum where you feel safe, upheld by U.K. case law and applied within our own immigration rules - leaving the ECHR wouldn’t change this much, but it would restrict our own rights - so there’s that to look forward to I guess - sigh.

We need to do something drastic

EnglishRose26 · Yesterday 08:59

What is notable (and worrying) is the distinct lack of the usual Labour MN crowd of many decades on here that are entirely MIA, they are not even attempting to defend their party anymore.

They are now holed up in the enclaves of MN doing some kind of group therapy session, and praying for miracles, because even THEY realise this is a disaster of epic proportions. Even those that believe we should have no borders at all, the penny seems to be dropping that we can not house the entire world. Realistically no country can. Even the die hards have gone silent.

Consensus has in fact broken out on the ground at least, that real change needs to happen, maybe someone could forward the memo to the civil service currently living on the shores of Barbados that the British people have really had enough, and to Andy whom is doing a tour of the nation because he has never left Manchester, and couldn't even point to Devon or Sussex on a map.

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 09:02

KateDelRick · Yesterday 08:17

That's an interesting thought, isn't it? I live in a pleasant, low crime, middle class suburb. Many people voted Green. My neighbour has displayed "refugees welcome" sign for a while now. I often wonder what would happen if he's literally taken at his word!
We shall see what transpires.

There are still some leftists/mass immigration supporters who deny that white British people will soon be in a minority.

igglepiggll · Yesterday 09:03

MsJinks · Yesterday 08:59

I’ll bite again - the illegal immigrants are not the majority of those arriving by boat. They’re the ones who overstayed whatever visa they came in on and went to ground - as it happens they remain illegal they cannot access housing, other than angel care from the NHS, benefits or anything else folk think the ‘illegals’ are taking from them.
The majority of those on boats claim asylum - once they have claimed this they are not ‘illegal’ - if they were they wouldn’t be in hotels or other accommodation.
Mainly the only way to claim asylum in the U.K. is to enter irregularly and claim at port. This is under the UNHCR right to claim asylum where you feel safe, upheld by U.K. case law and applied within our own immigration rules - leaving the ECHR wouldn’t change this much, but it would restrict our own rights - so there’s that to look forward to I guess - sigh.

So if that’s true why isn’t there a roughly equal volume and men and women. Why are the overwhelmingly young men?

suburburban · Yesterday 09:03

TheOutlier · Yesterday 08:58

Burnham really seems to hate the middle classes! What is so wrong with paying your taxes, abiding by the law and working hard! I despise his class warfare and his Northernism. The PM should represent all regions of this country. It isn’t a race to the bottom. He was elected by nobody except those voters in Makerfield. It’s a putsch.

Maybe the middle classes should go on strike and he can see how the country fares then?

Putting illegal migrants in more expensive areas is just going to cost taxpayers even more. I presume he doesn’t care about the cost be cause the people he calls “working class” don’t pay much tax.

Also we’ve heard a lot about him raising taxation via land tax and retirement age going up

they have been trying to exhort money out of their taxpayers ever since they came to power

why should the British people have to keep paying for these stupid immigration policies that are costing us billions.

Labour should have followed through on Rwanda

probablyamunreasonable · Yesterday 09:04

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 09:02

There are still some leftists/mass immigration supporters who deny that white British people will soon be in a minority.

Many of them don’t care. I’ve seen many comment ‘so what?’ When confronted with statistics and predictions

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 09:05

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · Yesterday 08:17

I’d love to hear what the celebs think down in the Cotswolds etc. if a building of this nature was proposed there. Or any other highly affluent area for that matter. How would they argue against it without looking like a racist nob - very much awkward for them I’d have thought.

Perhaps they’d take the Stand Up To Racism group approach in Bicester and object on the grounds it will attract the “far right” 😂https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czde627npepo

A crowd of people in a high street, with several banners and union flags flying

Protests held over asylum housing plan for Bicester MoD base

Two separate groups of protesters gather to oppose plans to use the facility for accommodation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czde627npepo

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