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To think Count Binface is doing a great job in the Clacton by-election?

822 replies

Darker · 10/08/2026 11:43

Count down to Bin Day!

Count Binface has been out bigging-up Clacton and drawing attention to its potential.

It’s a really positive campaign.

I don’t think he’ll win but I’d love it if he did. I think he’d be brilliant.

And if he doesn’t, I think other candidates could learn a lot from his approach.

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BIossomtoes · 14/08/2026 14:32

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 14:31

He wanted to prove that the electorate, regardless of the press and the condemnation of the other parties still wanted him as their representative and it was resounding success for him.

Hardly. Not a serious opponent in sight and more than a quarter of the votes cast went to the bin.

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 14:32

Oh no, I forgot you can't mention crap toe.

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 14:33

Darker · 14/08/2026 14:27

Bring a satirist is the day job. Harvey writes for many satirical programmes.

Thankyou for correcting me. Binface is a satirist. 😎

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 14:34

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 14:07

I would have said most people who support Reform say that immigration is their key issue? Certainly first among many even if they have other views.

I don't think it's particularly likely that the current government is going to actively reverse migration, but if they did then I'd consider voting for them to continue, I guess. There's a hypothetical version of the Labour party that might do it to increase wages, perhaps? But I think the current version doesn't have the electoral incentives to do it.

I'm also concerned about other topics of course but I think they'll all be harder to address while migration is still out of control. For example, low-skilled workers aren't going to contribute to state coffers and help with an ageing population, they're just going to withdraw their own pensions.

Care workers? Classed as low skill, certainly poorly paid yet entirely essential. In my experience the people who sign up for training in care are without exception migrants.

seawitchandgarden2 · 14/08/2026 14:34

Allseeingallknowing · 14/08/2026 13:55

Binface just made an idiot of himself

I think you are missing the point.

The man wears a bin of his head and is a comedian. He is not concerned about 'making an idiot of himself'...

But the comedy act did have the decency of turning up to the vote result while Farage, the supposedly serious politician, bottled it.

sittingonabeach · 14/08/2026 14:36

How much actual work has Farage done as a politician?

Allseeingallknowing · 14/08/2026 14:36

piscofrisco · 14/08/2026 14:31

The low skilled workers that literally make up the majority of social care workers who spend their working days….looking after the ageing population you mean?

Wouldn’t social workers have applied for a visa and entered the U.K. via legal routes? Doubt if many rocked up in small boats !

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 14:40

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 14:31

He wanted to prove that the electorate, regardless of the press and the condemnation of the other parties still wanted him as their representative and it was resounding success for him.

Oh hardly a resounding success by any conventional definition of the term! A resounding humiliation perhaps, since people saw through his ploy and refused to play his game. Less than 25% of the total electorate of Clacton voted for him. He was caught out lying about being told by the police not to attend the count. Then the mask well and truly slipped with his contemptuous remarks about "nobodies". Not to mention his reliance on old 30p Lee who predictably looked like rent a gob.

How does that constitute even a minor triumph?

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 14:45

Allseeingallknowing · 14/08/2026 14:36

Wouldn’t social workers have applied for a visa and entered the U.K. via legal routes? Doubt if many rocked up in small boats !

Immigrants come in through legal channels, they are a great support to our country.
Migrants on the other hand, leave their native country either for financial reasons or because of war, most leaving behind their family members to cope alone.

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 14:47

sittingonabeach · 14/08/2026 14:36

How much actual work has Farage done as a politician?

He's turned up to Parliament at least once! Shame it was to capitalise on the murder of a teenager and smirk as if it was funny...

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sittingonabeach · 14/08/2026 14:48

I like how Farage has been talking to his constituents today, showing up for work and showing what he will be doing for them as their MP. Oh surprise, surprise he hasn’t. He’s talked about himself, from a distance.

piscofrisco · 14/08/2026 14:49

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 14:45

Immigrants come in through legal channels, they are a great support to our country.
Migrants on the other hand, leave their native country either for financial reasons or because of war, most leaving behind their family members to cope alone.

OneAmberFinch said she has more of an issue with legal low skilled immigrants, than the small boats.
so yes the care workers that have applied and are here legally…. Im just asking her how she thinks social care and the NHS will function when Reform ‘sort immigration out ‘

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 14:51

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 14:45

Immigrants come in through legal channels, they are a great support to our country.
Migrants on the other hand, leave their native country either for financial reasons or because of war, most leaving behind their family members to cope alone.

Have you ever spoken to someone who's escaped a war torn country, forced to leave family members behind and had to spend months and years desperately trying to be reunited?

I'm going to guess at no, because if you had, you wouldn't be able to be so casually cruel.

Warmlight1 · 14/08/2026 15:02

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 11:38

So OP, i like the fact you are a 'Disrupter' showing your hand but in a kid glove.

I posted on Wednesday about the one sided vitriol of mumsnet on this subject.

As i have said previously I'm not standing with any Party but it was obvious from the start Farage called this by-election in order to prove his constituents still wanted him to represent them.

Is it coincidence that all other parties decided as one to not put up candidates? No, it isn’t, they decided jointly that it was their one chance to remove him before he became a threat to the establishment. This is not democratic behaviour.

This has been a stitch up.

As adults with a modicum of intelligence it must be obvious to all of you that the population of this country have every right to vote as they think fit.
While you are all typing away, deriding the constituents of Clacton most of them are on the shop floor wondering what is going to happen next. Which tax will go up, how will they cover the cost of childcare. Who is defending the Realm, what to do about the NHS.

And you, most of you prefer to joke and laugh and become vitriolic.
Count Binface stood for reducing bus fares from £2 to £1.99 and for selling a 99 ice cream for 99p.
The other parties stood back because they are scared.
This is silly, childish behaviour.

For the record I've never voted Reform, I've voted Tory.

"No, it isn’t, they decided jointly that it was their one chance to remove him before he became a threat to the establishment".
Eer I don't think so. They decided jointly that they wanted nothing to do with his machinations and they were right. Sometimes it's important to provide a lead no matter if it falls on some deaf ears. 9000 people heard.

AImportantMermaid · 14/08/2026 15:03

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 14:31

He wanted to prove that the electorate, regardless of the press and the condemnation of the other parties still wanted him as their representative and it was resounding success for him.

What a pointless, expensive, and egotistical exercise that makes fuck all difference to anybody. He could have run a focus group if he was that bothered. The only reason he did it was because he wanted to stop the investigation into the £5m bung he took but didn’t declare. He was poorly advised and wasn’t told that the investigation would restart if he was reelected.

He’ll be a laughing stock in the commons if he ever actually shows up. To barely increase his majority when no other parties were standing, and to see his nearest competitor, a man with a bin on his head, get a quarter of the vote share and almost half the number of votes he got, must be galling.

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:05

Yes, I think the care worker visa was one of the worst visas in terms of bringing in people who will be long-term state dependents (the main applicants and their dependents) and who have no obligation to be care workers after they get ILR.

Personalised round-the-clock care is an expensive luxury which we've decided to grant as a right to everyone in Britain. Fine, but we'll pay the cost one way or the other - either directly as wages today, or by the increased long-term costs of supporting migrant workers in a generous welfare state.

Legal immigration numbers broadly (not just care workers) dwarf illegal/irregular; in every sector there has been mass low-skilled migration which is not to the long-term benefit of the UK (e.g., visas for minimart/vape/kebab shops, visas for commodity IT body-shops, family visas for chain migration etc).

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:12

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 14:51

Have you ever spoken to someone who's escaped a war torn country, forced to leave family members behind and had to spend months and years desperately trying to be reunited?

I'm going to guess at no, because if you had, you wouldn't be able to be so casually cruel.

Have you ever spoken to someone who lived in an impoverished country, who's watched multiple children die from malnutrition and diseases easily preventable with tablets? Who lives in unhygienic squalor with no access to fresh water and with stitched-together supermarket plastic bags as the "walls" of their "house"?

I have, I've lived in such countries. As a mother I can't imagine what that would be like to have to raise my children like that. I would do literally anything to escape it. I'd break immigration law a hundred times a day for a chance at a better life.

I have complete sympathy for even "economic migrants" who aren't fleeing war. Is it more terrible to watch a child slowly starve, or to watch them blown up by a bomb?

But there are millions, billions even of people who live in conditions like this.

There is no way the UK can take them all. There's just no way.

Am I cruel?

hedgeknight · 14/08/2026 15:14

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:05

Yes, I think the care worker visa was one of the worst visas in terms of bringing in people who will be long-term state dependents (the main applicants and their dependents) and who have no obligation to be care workers after they get ILR.

Personalised round-the-clock care is an expensive luxury which we've decided to grant as a right to everyone in Britain. Fine, but we'll pay the cost one way or the other - either directly as wages today, or by the increased long-term costs of supporting migrant workers in a generous welfare state.

Legal immigration numbers broadly (not just care workers) dwarf illegal/irregular; in every sector there has been mass low-skilled migration which is not to the long-term benefit of the UK (e.g., visas for minimart/vape/kebab shops, visas for commodity IT body-shops, family visas for chain migration etc).

Where do you get your numbers from?

77yearsyoung · 14/08/2026 15:14

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:12

Have you ever spoken to someone who lived in an impoverished country, who's watched multiple children die from malnutrition and diseases easily preventable with tablets? Who lives in unhygienic squalor with no access to fresh water and with stitched-together supermarket plastic bags as the "walls" of their "house"?

I have, I've lived in such countries. As a mother I can't imagine what that would be like to have to raise my children like that. I would do literally anything to escape it. I'd break immigration law a hundred times a day for a chance at a better life.

I have complete sympathy for even "economic migrants" who aren't fleeing war. Is it more terrible to watch a child slowly starve, or to watch them blown up by a bomb?

But there are millions, billions even of people who live in conditions like this.

There is no way the UK can take them all. There's just no way.

Am I cruel?

No, you're sensible.

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 15:19

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:05

Yes, I think the care worker visa was one of the worst visas in terms of bringing in people who will be long-term state dependents (the main applicants and their dependents) and who have no obligation to be care workers after they get ILR.

Personalised round-the-clock care is an expensive luxury which we've decided to grant as a right to everyone in Britain. Fine, but we'll pay the cost one way or the other - either directly as wages today, or by the increased long-term costs of supporting migrant workers in a generous welfare state.

Legal immigration numbers broadly (not just care workers) dwarf illegal/irregular; in every sector there has been mass low-skilled migration which is not to the long-term benefit of the UK (e.g., visas for minimart/vape/kebab shops, visas for commodity IT body-shops, family visas for chain migration etc).

We don't have a "generous welfare state".

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 15:22

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:12

Have you ever spoken to someone who lived in an impoverished country, who's watched multiple children die from malnutrition and diseases easily preventable with tablets? Who lives in unhygienic squalor with no access to fresh water and with stitched-together supermarket plastic bags as the "walls" of their "house"?

I have, I've lived in such countries. As a mother I can't imagine what that would be like to have to raise my children like that. I would do literally anything to escape it. I'd break immigration law a hundred times a day for a chance at a better life.

I have complete sympathy for even "economic migrants" who aren't fleeing war. Is it more terrible to watch a child slowly starve, or to watch them blown up by a bomb?

But there are millions, billions even of people who live in conditions like this.

There is no way the UK can take them all. There's just no way.

Am I cruel?

The UK doesn't have to take everyone. Why are we accepting that things have to be this way and the only solution is migration? Perhaps not cutting foreign aid would be a start. And another helpful thing would be not accepting baseless anti-migrant rhetoric of the type normalised by Farage's Reform and carried even further by self styled "vigilantes".

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BIossomtoes · 14/08/2026 15:57

What a tit.

randomchap · 14/08/2026 16:00

Darker · 14/08/2026 15:55

He needs his deposit back.

BIossomtoes · 14/08/2026 16:10

Of course. So he thinks there are another 150 odd votes down the back of a ballot box somewhere. All for him.