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To find this entitled?

285 replies

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 16:55

This doesn't apply to people with childcare or caring responsibilities, any sort of illness or disability which means they cannot work full time.
But I've seen a few people on here or social media basically saying 'I can do supply/care work/0 hours work and sometimes only get a shift or two a week, because my husband earns well.'

So they're pretty much choosing to swan about and avoid full-time work, because they assume their husband or partner will carry on in their high-earning, full time role.

What happens if this husband loses their job, becomes sick, or just decides they're sick of having to be the breadwinner?

I see it all the time on supply teacher pages,'Oh I've only had 1 day of work in 2 months but it's fine because my husband is the breadwinner!!'

There are other jobs where you could make a living, you just don't want to do them, yet you still want your dream forever house and luxury lifestyle. If it were the wife full-time and the husband taking the piss there would be uproar.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 17:18

I couldn't feel good about myself if I did that but each to their own.

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JHound · Yesterday 17:18

I really don’t see why you care about this.

They aren’t relying on the taxpayer. I don’t see why it matters if somebody chooses not to work full time if they are not relying on the taxpayer. I don’t see where the entitlement is either. If I could change to three days a week with no change to my household income I would do it too.

Boomer55 · Yesterday 17:18

If they are both sorting it out between them, and they’re not relying on benefits, then it’s no one else’s business.

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 17:19

OttersOnAPlane · Yesterday 17:16

Other people's domestic arrangements are none of your business.

People aren't "taking advantage" of each other if they agree one of them does the childcare, caring responsibilities and household stuff allowing the other to pursue their career. They are just living their lives in ways that work for them.

Exactly!

ShetlandishMum · Yesterday 17:19

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 17:17

As I said caring/childcare is completely different

How?

JHound · Yesterday 17:19

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 16:59

I'm just saying I find it entitled. It's not about two people earning different amounts, that's very common. It's sexist too, I guarantee if I'd posted saying my husband was lounging around on one day a week of work and I were having to pay all the bills, I'd be told to leave him.

I don’t think you know what “entitled” means tbh OP.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 17:19

Because the husband/partner isn't being given that option, they're having to stay on this wage and those hours to ensure the mortgage and bills are paid.

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IStillHearTheWaves · Yesterday 17:20

I mean, I'd want more for myself than to be at the mercy of a man, personally, and if a man had that attitude, he'd without a doubt be promaclaimed a cocklodger on here, but people are free to live how they want.

I'd say it's shortsighted, rather than entitled.

OttersOnAPlane · Yesterday 17:20

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 17:17

As I said caring/childcare is completely different

And when those children grow up and the carer's professional skills are a couple of decades behind, so only unskilled options are available?

I'd rather DP not earn a pittance in a shit job if we could cope without that, and vice versa.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 17:20

JHound · Yesterday 17:19

I don’t think you know what “entitled” means tbh OP.

OK 👍

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JHound · Yesterday 17:20

HappiestSleeping · Yesterday 16:59

I know what you mean about the comments that would occur if the tables were reversed, but I don't think it is entitled. Each to their own, and if they choose to live that way, it is up to them. As long as they understand the consequences, that's their decision.

Personally, I always aspired to earn sufficient that my wife could choose to work or not as she pleased.

Can we stop with the “if things were reversed” nonsense. If this is what a couple agreed nobody would care.

YControl · Yesterday 17:21

I don't really see why you're all worked up about it.

You are right to point out that it's risky to put all your eggs in one basket and it can leave women in a vulnerable position, but really it's up to families and partners to do their own financial planning. Many will have savings and insurance etc to allow for job losses or death in service etc.
I think in a lot of cases it can be really hard to take time out of the workplace and then get back in so some people just doing a day or two supply here and there might have lost their confidence with work.

PatchworkCow · Yesterday 17:21

You're making an assumption though that they're taking the piss. Lots of couples are still quite traditional and where a man is earning enough to support the family comfortably he often doesn't care if his partner works much. Not every marriage obviously and not where people are struggling financially, but in a lot of cases it's true. It can be a win for him because he'll get to take on less of the household duties, have no issues with childcare stress/less expense for it because his partner will just cover it and won't get in trouble with their work for taking time off, he can go do family stuff or take time to himself on his days off because he doesn't have to worry about whether her days off align with his or having to do childcare because she's at work. The "forever home" isn't necessarily just something she wants but something he'd be paying for anyway, not all women are milking their partners for thousands to spend on designer handbags or haircuts either. You're looking at it from your own personal viewpoint that you wouldn't want to fund another human who wasn't your DC, but not everyone feels the way you do.

Howyoudoings · Yesterday 17:21

Well you would hate me youngest child is 9 and I’m 43 haven’t worked for two years and don’t intend to . Everybody’s circumstances are different and I find it strange when others are so invested in other people finances.

Flamingojune · Yesterday 17:22

What happened to for richer and poorer etc?

Cuwins · Yesterday 17:22

You’re right it’s wrong that it wouldn’t be seen as acceptable the other way around. However I feel it’s fine either way if that’s what works for that family/couple and it’s been discussed and agreed together. However that’s on the basis they aren’t claiming means tested benefits of course- if they need help to support themselves then they should be looking for more hours obviously.
As long as 1 partner doesn’t feel pressured in to it and both are happy then it’s only their business. I work part time (average of 15hrs a week with 1 contract being zero hours). My partner works full time shift work eating good money. We could use more childcare and I could work more hours but I don’t want to and we don’t need me to so made the decision together that we would rather I’m at home with DD more. If I was working more hours my pay wouldn’t amount to much more than the childcare anyway!

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 17:22

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 17:18

I couldn't feel good about myself if I did that but each to their own.

That’s a you problem.
when I stayed at home and dh worked full time I felt fine. Dh valued my contribution, I valued my contribution and it was the best decision for our family.
dh And I have always taken a team view.

OttersOnAPlane · Yesterday 17:23

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 17:19

Because the husband/partner isn't being given that option, they're having to stay on this wage and those hours to ensure the mortgage and bills are paid.

If they've agreed that's how their relationship operates, no one is being exploited or denied options. They've just reached a decision you don't like.

YControl · Yesterday 17:23

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 17:19

Because the husband/partner isn't being given that option, they're having to stay on this wage and those hours to ensure the mortgage and bills are paid.

Also just saw this after I posted. Why do you assume the partner has no choice? I would imagine this is the kind of thing most people discuss as a family.

JHound · Yesterday 17:23

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 17:04

I can see why, but I would honestly rather work than take advantage of my husband.

Why is anybody being taken advantage of in a mutually agreeable situation between adults?

Describing it in this manner is what makes you sound envious. If a man is happy for his wife to not work outside the home and she is happy not to do so….why do you care?

ShetlandishMum · Yesterday 17:24

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 17:19

Because the husband/partner isn't being given that option, they're having to stay on this wage and those hours to ensure the mortgage and bills are paid.

I earned quite well as a supply. It's not like you aren't paid.

JHound · Yesterday 17:24

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · Yesterday 17:05

I have seen multiple threads on here about how the woman's spouse or partner is in and out of work, quitting with nothing to go to, freelance and so on. Comments are all on her side. Why ?

Because she is not happy with it. If she was happy with it nobody would care.

BrucesBarAndGrill · Yesterday 17:24

TheJuryIsOut · Yesterday 17:10

Because usually it turns out that the woman is still doing the lions share of housework/childcare and the husband is just dossing about.

Women are labeled as Gold Diggers so that society can ignore that their husbands are labour diggers benefiting from all the unpaid work their wife does

JanBlues2026 · Yesterday 17:25

TheJuryIsOut · Yesterday 17:07

I think a lot of the time they do all of the housework/life admin/cooking etc and the husband is happy with the situation because he barely has to lift a finger at home. Sometimes it's better to have someone who isn't exhausted from working full time so they can keep the house running and the person who does work full time then has lots of time to relax at home.

I don't think it's entitled at all.

Yes exactly this, being available for school picks, sick days, holidays and all the other stuff you have mentioned. If I worked then his housework, life admin and childcare workload would go up. If he ever lost his job or was unable to work then I would of course start working again. We have plenty of assets, savings and financial security for the future as we are very sensible in that way.

malloryknox123 · Yesterday 17:25

Swan about? Someone close to you has clearly pissed you off