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To find this entitled?

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · 04/08/2026 16:55

This doesn't apply to people with childcare or caring responsibilities, any sort of illness or disability which means they cannot work full time.
But I've seen a few people on here or social media basically saying 'I can do supply/care work/0 hours work and sometimes only get a shift or two a week, because my husband earns well.'

So they're pretty much choosing to swan about and avoid full-time work, because they assume their husband or partner will carry on in their high-earning, full time role.

What happens if this husband loses their job, becomes sick, or just decides they're sick of having to be the breadwinner?

I see it all the time on supply teacher pages,'Oh I've only had 1 day of work in 2 months but it's fine because my husband is the breadwinner!!'

There are other jobs where you could make a living, you just don't want to do them, yet you still want your dream forever house and luxury lifestyle. If it were the wife full-time and the husband taking the piss there would be uproar.

OP posts:
Linnende · Yesterday 12:35

Your point is?

Every couple or family will run their home as they see fit. I agree with your sentiment but, if the husband does not mind his wife working only a few hours here and there, that is their business! If the husband does mind, then he needs to stand his ground and say so!!!

Harry12345 · Yesterday 12:46

Paganpentacle · Yesterday 12:19

Its a situation women were 'traditionally' forced into seeing as we had no access to personal banking until 1975 and were prevented from owning property in our own names in the past.
The patriarchy made it so... not women.

Yeah I get that, I always thought that way but throughout my life I’ve seen that a lot more woman than men would choose this role too.

godmum56 · Yesterday 12:51

Jaxhog · Yesterday 12:25

I may have had my own bank account then, but my father had to sign the application for it. After I got married in 1977, my DH had to sign and submit MY tax returns.

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Banks could require sponsorship if you wanted to bank with them but they did not have to and in fact have never had to. IIRC I opened a bank with Midland because my college grant, and some bursaries, were paid to me by cheque to pay to my college and I needed to be able to write cheques. Cheques cost money then so I used a national savings book account for my day to day money management.
My DH did a joint tax return (married in 1974 but did not work (we travelled abroad) until 1975. I worked in the NHS so never actually had to do a tax return as i had no other income and when the couples extra became splittable, I passed mine on to my husband because it benefitted us financially. An interesting item here. Note that, as I have said, banks never HAD to require sponsorship from a male relative but many (most) chose to. biancawhitewrites.com/did-nineteenth-century-women-have-bank-accounts/

Opalfruitfan66 · Yesterday 12:52

Aren't you happy that this means they're not taking up a job that someone else, who needs the money, could do?

ThatFlakyGuide · Yesterday 12:57

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · 04/08/2026 16:59

It's just an opinion. I couldn't feel happy in myself knowing I'm sponging off my husband, but it only applies to women for some reason.

You are assuming that all things are equal- we all know that statistically women carry the load at home and men often don’t pull their fair share. I work FT as does husband but he earns more because I raised the kids and took a step back to accommodate school runs etc (I continued to work throughput however)and therefore my career progression was stunted. It’s not sponging - if he had to pay someone to do all that stuff he’d be worse off. You sound bitter about it - what’s that about? Each to their own and if it works for them what’s it got to do with anyone else?!

godmum56 · Yesterday 12:57

Paganpentacle · Yesterday 12:25

The laws that discriminated against women 100 years ago in Britain – Right to Equality
Finally, under existing law at the time, married women weren’t even allowed to open a bank account without their husbands’ permission until 1975 when the Equal Opportunities Commission successfully campaigned for marital equality legislation allowing married couples equal financial autonomy from one another regardless of gender.

That's not actually true. Banks could require sponsorship by a male relative but it was never the law that they had to. By the time the Married Women's property Act was passed at least some banks were stopping doing this anyway as a commercial decision. The law (and yes it was important) ratified and underlined this rather than forcing change.

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 13:00

Naunet · Yesterday 11:47

I would'nt want to be this reliant on a man personally, I would absolutely hate it, but I value my independence I guess. Christ knows what these men are thinking, they must be getting something out of it, maybe they like having someone else doing all the cleaning and cooking.

my dh didn’t have to do anything apart from work - I took care of everything else. He had a demanding job (800 staff and turnover of .75 billion) and no mental load at home.

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 13:05

Paganpentacle · Yesterday 12:16

Yes. Absolutely agree.
Every woman .. whether she has children or not, is married or not, should be able to support herself financially and not rely on a bloke.
See it on here all the time... husband/partner leaves and then they have nothing.
Or partner is an abusive bell-end and she has no way of leaving.
Short sighted. Plus it has an impact on pensions.
Build your own nest.

Edited

fortunately I was t married to ac complete bell end. What makes you think in this type of scenario that pensions would not be set up for the non working spouse or that they have no access to money? I will have a full state pension and have a pension too.

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 13:07

Paganpentacle · Yesterday 12:21

By?

paying voluntary contributions into state pension
By setting up a private pension
By having savings and investments in the name of the non working spouse.

Tunnocks34 · Yesterday 13:10

I am not sure why you’re so bothered. Some people don’t want to work full time, and if they have a family set up that allows them not to then that’s great for them. I simply do not care.

Now do I think it’s can be a risk? Yes. Relying on someone else to fund your life is always a risk, particularly if there was a divorce. I wouldn’t recommend it nor do it.

Retro12 · Yesterday 13:28

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · 04/08/2026 17:00

Each to their own indeed. But i couldn't just decide tomorrow i fancied pursuing more hobbies, my husband doesn't earn enough to cover both of us and it's not his job to.

That's a "you" problem! It's none of your business. You seem very jealous of others lifestyles.... You could always find a richer husband!

BlackSwansWearDoveFeathers · Yesterday 13:51

JHound · 04/08/2026 17:18

I really don’t see why you care about this.

They aren’t relying on the taxpayer. I don’t see why it matters if somebody chooses not to work full time if they are not relying on the taxpayer. I don’t see where the entitlement is either. If I could change to three days a week with no change to my household income I would do it too.

Some of them undoubtedly are, unless the working partner is a very high earner indeed. As an individual you need to earn more than £70k before your tax covers your share of state services (transport, infrastructure, defence, schools, NHS, etc…) even if you claim no cash benefits. These people who barely work are still a cost to the state unless as a household they are paying £20k tax on income per person in the household. If there are two adults and, say, two children, and only one person works they need to be earning around £200k just to be covering their own household’s costs to the state through their tax (around £80k).

BlackSwansWearDoveFeathers · Yesterday 13:53

Opalfruitfan66 · Yesterday 12:52

Aren't you happy that this means they're not taking up a job that someone else, who needs the money, could do?

That isn’t how the economy works. It isn’t zero sum. There aren’t a fixed number of jobs. If more people work then the economy can grow and new businesses can be set up to employ them because more people have money to spend.

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 13:55

BlackSwansWearDoveFeathers · Yesterday 13:53

That isn’t how the economy works. It isn’t zero sum. There aren’t a fixed number of jobs. If more people work then the economy can grow and new businesses can be set up to employ them because more people have money to spend.

Edited

Wrong way round. The economy has to grow to create jobs.

Mingou · Yesterday 13:57

You're both wrong, it's circular.

Blueseudeshoes · Yesterday 13:58

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · 04/08/2026 17:00

Each to their own indeed. But i couldn't just decide tomorrow i fancied pursuing more hobbies, my husband doesn't earn enough to cover both of us and it's not his job to.

too bad so sad? Some people have husbands that do want to!

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 14:07

BlackSwansWearDoveFeathers · Yesterday 13:51

Some of them undoubtedly are, unless the working partner is a very high earner indeed. As an individual you need to earn more than £70k before your tax covers your share of state services (transport, infrastructure, defence, schools, NHS, etc…) even if you claim no cash benefits. These people who barely work are still a cost to the state unless as a household they are paying £20k tax on income per person in the household. If there are two adults and, say, two children, and only one person works they need to be earning around £200k just to be covering their own household’s costs to the state through their tax (around £80k).

given that the average salary in the uk is way under £70k most people are a cost to the state regardless of hours worked.

Tanyasfatmate · Yesterday 14:12

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 13:00

my dh didn’t have to do anything apart from work - I took care of everything else. He had a demanding job (800 staff and turnover of .75 billion) and no mental load at home.

Similar situation to me but my DH is v senior public servant. I take care of everything that enables him to do his job, from travel arrangements and packing for him, making and confirming plans for meetings and events, lots of general admin, organising his wardrobe (much more involved than washing socks!), all sorts of logistics, not just running the home and family (which I know all single parents have to do anyway).
Basically the taxpayer pays for him and gets me for free, because secretarial support is nowhere near enough. I am not alone in doing this. Many many women and a few men do this for (or should I say, with) their partner. It doesn't make us "dependent on a man" - heck, I'll be financially comfortable if we divorced, and have buckets of free time! It just means we work as a team, and financially he shares everything with me. Sadly though it's not recognised either by employers or other people. I am posting as an explanatory response to the OP, not as a whinge.

Paganpentacle · Yesterday 14:21

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 13:07

paying voluntary contributions into state pension
By setting up a private pension
By having savings and investments in the name of the non working spouse.

AAh.
I mean yes... if thats what works for people.
Some of us have more self-respect.

Paganpentacle · Yesterday 14:22

ShanghaiDiva · Yesterday 13:05

fortunately I was t married to ac complete bell end. What makes you think in this type of scenario that pensions would not be set up for the non working spouse or that they have no access to money? I will have a full state pension and have a pension too.

Good for you.
There's many many women out there not married to your husband.

godmum56 · Yesterday 14:22

Paganpentacle · Yesterday 12:21

By?

is that relevant?

godmum56 · Yesterday 14:23

Paganpentacle · Yesterday 14:21

AAh.
I mean yes... if thats what works for people.
Some of us have more self-respect.

ooooo Judgy McJudgeface is among us

godmum56 · Yesterday 14:25

Tanyasfatmate · Yesterday 14:12

Similar situation to me but my DH is v senior public servant. I take care of everything that enables him to do his job, from travel arrangements and packing for him, making and confirming plans for meetings and events, lots of general admin, organising his wardrobe (much more involved than washing socks!), all sorts of logistics, not just running the home and family (which I know all single parents have to do anyway).
Basically the taxpayer pays for him and gets me for free, because secretarial support is nowhere near enough. I am not alone in doing this. Many many women and a few men do this for (or should I say, with) their partner. It doesn't make us "dependent on a man" - heck, I'll be financially comfortable if we divorced, and have buckets of free time! It just means we work as a team, and financially he shares everything with me. Sadly though it's not recognised either by employers or other people. I am posting as an explanatory response to the OP, not as a whinge.

Similar situation to ours except my late DH was in the global private sector.

nomas · Yesterday 14:26

Tanyasfatmate · Yesterday 14:12

Similar situation to me but my DH is v senior public servant. I take care of everything that enables him to do his job, from travel arrangements and packing for him, making and confirming plans for meetings and events, lots of general admin, organising his wardrobe (much more involved than washing socks!), all sorts of logistics, not just running the home and family (which I know all single parents have to do anyway).
Basically the taxpayer pays for him and gets me for free, because secretarial support is nowhere near enough. I am not alone in doing this. Many many women and a few men do this for (or should I say, with) their partner. It doesn't make us "dependent on a man" - heck, I'll be financially comfortable if we divorced, and have buckets of free time! It just means we work as a team, and financially he shares everything with me. Sadly though it's not recognised either by employers or other people. I am posting as an explanatory response to the OP, not as a whinge.

Basically the taxpayer pays for him and gets me for free, because secretarial support is nowhere near enough.

That's not it works. He's a grown ass man, he should be able to pack his own suitcase and organise how own wardrobe.

My boss is on £500k + and still able to do their job and not rely on someone at home to manage their home life.

The tax payer is not benefiting from you.

godmum56 · Yesterday 14:27

nomas · Yesterday 14:26

Basically the taxpayer pays for him and gets me for free, because secretarial support is nowhere near enough.

That's not it works. He's a grown ass man, he should be able to pack his own suitcase and organise how own wardrobe.

My boss is on £500k + and still able to do their job and not rely on someone at home to manage their home life.

The tax payer is not benefiting from you.

its not being unable to its being involved in doing stuff elsewhere at work.