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Is this a ‘Soft life’

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Wellthatwasabrupt · 29/07/2026 19:25

And would you want it?

Has Dh, one young Dc and dogs, lives overseas by the beach and countryside, nice house with pool and sea views.
Works 6 hours per week from home. Does all drop offs and pick ups, food shop, dinners, majority to do with Dc and sorting bills. Has a cleaner.
Dh works Mon-Fri -finishes 4.30, no one works weekends.
Days are free based around Dc school drops, coffee with friends, Pilates, yoga, studying or reading if you like, watching Netflix all day if you like, shopping, beach, pool, garden

Would you call this a soft life? Would you like it, be honest?

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Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:21

fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:19

So leaving them with a grandma or aunt for a day is bad or good?

If they are loving, caring and responsible, it’s better than a stranger obviously

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Dragonscaledaisy · 01/08/2026 16:22

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:12

And some are doing a hell of a lot less too!

Working, studying and being a mother, friend, daughter, wife, pet looker after are all very valuable contributions to society…so sad that you cannot see that and value it

You are extremely dismissive of the contribution of many people to society - that's a very ignorant view that needed to be challenged. Now you're spouting silly nonsense - do you think all of those people aren't doing all of those things as well as part of a full and active life?

backformoreofthesame · 01/08/2026 16:23

The main caregiver doesn’t mean a mother who doesn’t do other work though

and strictly it doesn’t have to be the mother - babies need at least one stable person in their lives

children need the security. They shouldn’t be moved to childcare / family care situations until they are ready. But they don’t need a mother helicoptering around them especially once they are past the baby stage. That can actually be harmful.

fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:27

and strictly it doesn’t have to be the mother - babies need at least one stable person in their lives
children need the security. They shouldn’t be moved to childcare / family care situations until they are ready. But they don’t need a mother helicoptering around them especially once they are past the baby stage. That can actually be harmful

This is why I’m intrigued about the cultures that promote the idea that the mother should be the sole care giver for 3 years.

OutOfTheOtherSide · 01/08/2026 16:27

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:18

?

Ideally always the mother (as long as in good health mentally and physically) as main caregiver and to have a village around them-family, friends etc

It's not the 1960's anymore. What old fashioned, misogynistic nonsense.

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:27

backformoreofthesame · 01/08/2026 16:23

The main caregiver doesn’t mean a mother who doesn’t do other work though

and strictly it doesn’t have to be the mother - babies need at least one stable person in their lives

children need the security. They shouldn’t be moved to childcare / family care situations until they are ready. But they don’t need a mother helicoptering around them especially once they are past the baby stage. That can actually be harmful.

It’s not helicoptering to be around your young child. Jesus wept.

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fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:28

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:21

If they are loving, caring and responsible, it’s better than a stranger obviously

but not better than the mother?

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:28

OutOfTheOtherSide · 01/08/2026 16:27

It's not the 1960's anymore. What old fashioned, misogynistic nonsense.

It’s basic biology and common sense also!

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godmum56 · 01/08/2026 16:29

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 15:54

Sit at home with their child…like that’s all it is

Is terms of funding, this is something society needs to change as a whole, instead of forcing women to have to go back into the workforce too soon, paying extortionate amounts for the privilege of strangers looking after your children
Workplaces should take this seriously and the whole role of motherhood and children themselves, women too should add to this instead of going along with it
There is absolutely no shame at all in embracing motherhood and providing the best for your child, this is what life is all about.
If you just want to pop out a child and return to work because you feel bored, what is the point in becoming a mother, stay child free! Surely three years isn’t that long to put the childs needs first?!

oh hang on no. If you want kids, you fund them.

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:29

fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:28

but not better than the mother?

Mother (if healthy mentally) and obviously a good mother, would always be the best surely! The baby craves and needs the mother, they have been a part of her for 9 months

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fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:30

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:28

It’s basic biology and common sense also!

Except it isn’t, allowing for basic biology means women would have far more dc. They can’t give undivided attention to each dc for 3 years in that case can they?

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:30

Dragonscaledaisy · 01/08/2026 16:22

You are extremely dismissive of the contribution of many people to society - that's a very ignorant view that needed to be challenged. Now you're spouting silly nonsense - do you think all of those people aren't doing all of those things as well as part of a full and active life?

Eh??

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Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:31

godmum56 · 01/08/2026 16:29

oh hang on no. If you want kids, you fund them.

What?

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StrawberriesandBrylcream · 01/08/2026 16:32

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:08

This would be good too

Yes, but why is your ideal that it be the mother? Rather than the other parent or a mix of the two? Or a grandparent?

fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:32

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:29

Mother (if healthy mentally) and obviously a good mother, would always be the best surely! The baby craves and needs the mother, they have been a part of her for 9 months

So why do you think valium prescriptions were so commonly prescribed in the 60s & 70s?

fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:33

Still awaiting the answer to those cultures & societies?

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:36

fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:30

Except it isn’t, allowing for basic biology means women would have far more dc. They can’t give undivided attention to each dc for 3 years in that case can they?

This is just getting silly now.

Look if anyone wants to have a child and give them to a child carer, that is their right but we cannot deny that the very best during those formative years is for the child to be with the mother. There is simply no point in arguing this anymore. Feelings of guilt or defensiveness cannot cloud the argument. We are all human and have our own wants and needs, but at the end of the day there is no argument to say a child is better placed in an ideal world with anyone other than the mother (as said numerous times-if mother is a good, loving mother and mentally stable etc)

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fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:36

But you are the one claiming things that aren’t true?

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:38

StrawberriesandBrylcream · 01/08/2026 16:32

Yes, but why is your ideal that it be the mother? Rather than the other parent or a mix of the two? Or a grandparent?

It would be great for father to be given more time with children too and loving grandparents, everyone who loves that child and is family obviously, but ultimately mother is the closest and best for baby and what they need

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Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:39

fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:32

So why do you think valium prescriptions were so commonly prescribed in the 60s & 70s?

All sorts of reasons i’d imagine

I’m only saying baby ideally needs mum

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Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:40

fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:33

Still awaiting the answer to those cultures & societies?

I don’t have facts and figures, but it’s fairly clear to see that many cultures value the mother role much more than the Uk and America etc

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Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:41

fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:36

But you are the one claiming things that aren’t true?

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What isn’t true?

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fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:45

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:40

I don’t have facts and figures, but it’s fairly clear to see that many cultures value the mother role much more than the Uk and America etc

You claimed it was normal for the mother to be the sole carer giver for 3 years in many cultures?

fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:45

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:41

What isn’t true?

Do keep up!

Wellthatwasabrupt · 01/08/2026 16:46

fishbowlee · 01/08/2026 16:45

Do keep up!

This is ridiculous 🙄

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