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Mil stepping on my toes in small ways

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Itsablondebobkindaday · 25/07/2026 18:06

I would really love some opinions here. I’m happy to be told I’m being unreasonable because I suspect I am being a little touchy and this is very much sweating the small stuff. There’s nothing big where I feel like I’d be justified in saying anything. It’s a lot of little things but it’s really getting me down. So it’s a mil one. Me and dp have a four month old. She’s dp’s only child and the only grandchild for his mother. Mil obviously dotes on dd but it is becoming overbearing and little things are adding up and making me quite annoyed. She’s very opinionated and believes her opinions are right. Truthfully I find her quite disrespectful of anyone else’s feelings or opinions.

She’s started asking to have dd for the day on her own. She has her alone for a good 9/10 hours. I was far from ready for this but dp clearly didn’t want to upset her so I felt like I had to agree. I’ve realised after seeing some pictures from the first time that she’s got a full set of clothes for her that she’s obviously keeping at hers and changing her into as soon as she gets to hers. The lovely outfits I put her in come back barely worn in the changing bag along with all the spares I’ve packed. I can’t help but feel like she’s been seen as a little doll to play dress up with.

My next niggle was regarding car seats. She lives not far off an hour away and it’s mostly motorway driving. Therefore I was extremely selective about what car seat I bought while pregnant and explained to dp that I wanted this car seat used until she’s outgrown it as it has an excellent safety record. Mil has bought her own which I wasn’t made aware of until she turned up with it. It’s not as safe as ours and I’m upset that something I put a lot of thought into and wanted my daughter to use is discarded without so much as a word about it to me. I get that eventually she would have had to get one for her car but I was hoping it would be when dd was a bit older and more solid and that maybe the choice was at least run by me first.

Dd has a dummy. I know many people don’t like them but I have several children who have all had one and no teeth issues. I also like that there’s research suggesting they may slightly protect against SIDS. Mil despises dummies and pretty much told us that dd wasn’t having one. This has led dp to hide the fact we use one until he accidentally posted a photo with it in sight. Mil was not happy about this. I’m concerned of her ever having dd overnight because I know she will let dd scream all night rather than just give her the dummy.

I’m prepared to hear I’m being precious first born about the previous issues (even though this is far from my first!) but this one has got to me. I really don’t like cold water sterilisers and Milton. I personally believe if we can sterilise a bottle without chemicals why would we want to use them. Mil is the total opposite and doesn’t believe things are clean unless there chemically sterilised. When she was a few days old I did use Milton to sterilise to appease her and dd exorcism style projectile vomited her whole feed up. A week later mil was down and we tried again and the same thing happened which led me to conclude that she was better with steam sterilised bottles. Anyway the last two times mil has had dd, the following day she’s been vomiting large quantities up which I’ve found strange. Then dp let slip that mil doesn’t use the bottles we provide. She has her own which knowing her have been sterilised in Milton. While it’s such a tiny thing it’s really bothering me. It’s the one thing I have actively stood up and said to her I don’t like and she’s decided my feelings on it do not matter and done it anyway.

I learnt this morning that she now has her own stroller for dd at her house for when she’s old enough to use it. Again, a very small thing in the grand scheme of things but why is she so adamant to not use anything that I’ve carefully chosen for my daughter. I’m actually starting to question if she thinks my things aren’t good enough.

Dd came back from the last trip bathed and with all her cradle cap scrubbed off. She was bathed the night before so didn’t need a bath but I accept that she could have vomited/had an explosive poo. Dd doesn’t have bad cradle cap to begin with but I wanted it to fall out naturally because when I used products on her sibling lots of her hair came out with it. I had explained this.

Sorry that was long! I’m just feeling really down about it and then I feel pathetic for feeling down about it. None of it is awful. None of it feels worth causing an argument over but I don’t like feeling upset about it. I’m also somewhat concerned what the future is going to look like and the potential for this to become a bigger problem.

OP posts:
Sunnibee · 27/07/2026 13:47

I think the only thing you are being unreasonable about is the car seat. It's practical and helpful that she wanted to get one for her own car, but you should say if you don't think it's safe enough. You shouldn't have felt pressured into her having your baby for that long when she's so little. The dummy is none of her business and the clothes thing is ridiculous!!! So overall YANBU and I think you need to talk to your partner about establishing some boundaries.

Tallisker · 27/07/2026 13:51

Two words needed, OP: Absolutely not. No way should your daughter being spending the night with your MIL. Because it won’t be just the night, will it? It’ll be the day before and the day after as well.

I’ve just had a serious ick at the thought of of your ‘D’P and his mother playing cosy mummies and daddies with your baby 🤢

Millytante · 27/07/2026 13:53

Have to say, and I really don’t mean it as an attack, that I cannot imagine what possessed you to cohabit, let alone have another child, with this man you have described pretty much as a waste of space and a considerable drag on your life. (Not to mention an overbearing MIL, natch)
Does he have any involvement with your other three children, in a stepfatherly rôle? Does MIL embrace them as family? More important, do they love living with him?

i just can’t think of any way in which he brings joy or energy to your life, and I wonder what qualities you have omitted to mention. Is he worth this dull cloud always over your head and the restrictions placed all around you?

Who owns/rents the house: did he move in to your long-standing home?
I’d certainly not marry under the circs you describe, but discreetly take steps to protect my own interests, including the material ones, and plan carefully for a separation (ie kick him out if it’s your house).

(why did the subject of [not] having another child come up? Do you actually yearn for more?)

Swiftie1878 · 27/07/2026 13:56

Itsablondebobkindaday · 27/07/2026 13:42

Oh ffs. He’s just come in and the reason she’s calling constantly is to ask is she can have her overnight. This feels like it can’t get any worse.

It sounds like you need BOTH your ‘D’P and his mother OUT of your life!
Why on earth would you want to marry this man child and end up feeling like this for the rest of your life?

ACR7 · 27/07/2026 14:01

One thing I would be wary of is if you split he may go for 50/50 with the intention of just letting his mam have her on his time.

Tryagain26 · 27/07/2026 14:03

I wouldn't let anyone look after such a tiny baby for 10 hours a day why did you agree to that? Just say no she's too young

RosemaryRusset · 27/07/2026 14:18

Itsablondebobkindaday · 27/07/2026 13:42

Oh ffs. He’s just come in and the reason she’s calling constantly is to ask is she can have her overnight. This feels like it can’t get any worse.

The answer is 'no way', right?
I'd be checking whether the car finance has a change-of-heart / get out clause and cancelling it if possible. Keep your money, you're going to need it.

Watermelongum · 27/07/2026 14:18

Namechangewegovyjune26 · 25/07/2026 18:15

Jesus what have I just read, OP! 4 month old and you’re handing your baby to someone for 10 HOURS?! Different if you want to but this is so sad to read: “was far from ready for this but dp clearly didn’t want to upset her so I felt like I had to agree.”

Find your inner mum rage and shut that shit down. It’s different for a few hours but they are walking all over you.

This 1000%
Your DH needs to grow up, put his child's welfare and your strong maternal instincts ahead of his mummy's feelings.

Stand up to them both straightaway. You didn't have a child so she could play with her like a doll.

I don't understand why supposedly mature women behave like this, it's a privilege to be included in a grandchild's life, not a god given right.

Alycie · 27/07/2026 14:25

I’m really sorry to hear what you are going through. Not much to add to what others have said, but I also have a four-month-old and I just cannot imagine leaving him with anyone for so long! If you don’t want to, you shouldn’t have to.

After reading your updates it is clear that your partner is the issue. You said that he hasn’t taken care of baby except for a few hours here and there, but had time to take the baby for a beach day without you? That’s just so odd.

I also have a MIL from hell, she has done the most awful things, but my partner standing by me makes all the difference. You deserve someone that will put you first, specially now 💐

Flooring24 · 27/07/2026 14:27

Absolutely not OP. no way.
just say no
you need to stand firm. Do not let your baby be used low this.

your baby needs to be with you or the dad. Not a third party who doesn’t have her best interests at heart.

LastOnePlease · 27/07/2026 14:30

Are you afraid of him OP? I think you need to get both sets of car keys and keep them someone locked away from him. And then, sadly I think you need to try to work your way out of this relationship because this isn't good for you.

jackstini · 27/07/2026 14:31

Absolutely not! She is not having your 4 month old overnight!! Straight no, immediately

Who owns the house? Or is on the tenancy agreement?

How do your other kids feel about him?

It honestly feels like he brings more negativity than good things and is a wet blanket when it comes to his mum

You owe his mum nothing. She’s been very rude ignoring all your boundaries, especially the one which makes dd vomit!

LastOnePlease · 27/07/2026 14:31

Millytante · 27/07/2026 13:53

Have to say, and I really don’t mean it as an attack, that I cannot imagine what possessed you to cohabit, let alone have another child, with this man you have described pretty much as a waste of space and a considerable drag on your life. (Not to mention an overbearing MIL, natch)
Does he have any involvement with your other three children, in a stepfatherly rôle? Does MIL embrace them as family? More important, do they love living with him?

i just can’t think of any way in which he brings joy or energy to your life, and I wonder what qualities you have omitted to mention. Is he worth this dull cloud always over your head and the restrictions placed all around you?

Who owns/rents the house: did he move in to your long-standing home?
I’d certainly not marry under the circs you describe, but discreetly take steps to protect my own interests, including the material ones, and plan carefully for a separation (ie kick him out if it’s your house).

(why did the subject of [not] having another child come up? Do you actually yearn for more?)

I agree with this too. This is not a good man OP. He is a user and a waster and a cock-lodger. He needs to go.

What is the point of having a partner, if they don't actually partner with you and share the load of childcare and the household?

DeftGoldHedgehog · 27/07/2026 14:32

I wouldn't bother about any of that other than is the car seat safe enough and how long she has her for? Also on the dummy issue, if MIL doesn't want her to have one (and she deal with the consequences while she's there) that's her lookout but she doesn't get a say as to whether you use one at all other times. She will likely soon cave when DD1 is inconsolable without her dummy and it will become a non-issue.

I think four months is a bit young for DD to be away from her mum for that long (unless you absolutely have to for work) and would compromise with half a day. Build up to a whole day. For me it wouldn't have been a thing anyway as I breastfed DD1 to eight months. I went back to work when DD1 was a year old and PIL had her for a day a week from then, which was great. I very much thought that while she is with them, granny rules apply but only up to a point.

On edit: just read the updates and it looks like you have much bigger issues than whether a dummy is used.

BobbysDazzler · 27/07/2026 14:46

Itsablondebobkindaday · 27/07/2026 13:42

Oh ffs. He’s just come in and the reason she’s calling constantly is to ask is she can have her overnight. This feels like it can’t get any worse.

A firm no, she isn't going. Any aftermath can be dealt with by the son ignoring her calls..... Tell him to man the fuck up!

LittleMrsExhausted · 27/07/2026 14:47

The daddy daughter beach day most likely included you mil BTW. That why he didn't want to to come. Then threw in the engagement as a distraction.

Return the car to the finance company. Return you 'd'p to his mother and restore peace in you own home.

Co parenting will include her but you will be able to establish boundaries better.

Mix56 · 27/07/2026 14:48

Perfect time to say No, I am no longer having you commandeering my life. This also applies to 8 hour periods away from me. I dont like your policy if undermining me & ignoring my clear instructions.
So there we have it Complain all you like to your own lazy selfish baby.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 27/07/2026 14:51

I’m really sorry but this relationship is over. If I were manipulative, I’d let it run another month without the visits to his mother, just to establish that he/his mum isn’t a regular carer for the baby.
Investigate how you can get out of the car situation. It will cost, but less than keeping this bloke around.

LiveLaughGoblin · 27/07/2026 14:54

He got you to buy a car…to avoid a 10 minute walk?? I would have assumed he was joking.

Tulipsriver · 27/07/2026 14:57

If he's avoiding the hard conversations with his mum then you be very clear.

"No, to be honest I regret letting my 4 month go to yours for the full day and it won't be happening again until she's much older and I'm comfortable with it. Overnights aren't something I'm considering whilst she's so young".

If you do allow her to have her for any length of time (which I wouldn't, given she lives an hour away and ignores your wishes) tell her she is not to use Milton and the baby will travel in the car seat you bought.

If she tries to take her from you when you don't want to let her go, tell her "I'm holding her right now, I'll let you know when she's ready for a cuddle with granny".

If she pushes back just say it's not open for debate. Your feelings matter, even if your husband is too feeble to stand up for you.

Tulipsriver · 27/07/2026 14:59

DeftGoldHedgehog · 27/07/2026 14:32

I wouldn't bother about any of that other than is the car seat safe enough and how long she has her for? Also on the dummy issue, if MIL doesn't want her to have one (and she deal with the consequences while she's there) that's her lookout but she doesn't get a say as to whether you use one at all other times. She will likely soon cave when DD1 is inconsolable without her dummy and it will become a non-issue.

I think four months is a bit young for DD to be away from her mum for that long (unless you absolutely have to for work) and would compromise with half a day. Build up to a whole day. For me it wouldn't have been a thing anyway as I breastfed DD1 to eight months. I went back to work when DD1 was a year old and PIL had her for a day a week from then, which was great. I very much thought that while she is with them, granny rules apply but only up to a point.

On edit: just read the updates and it looks like you have much bigger issues than whether a dummy is used.

Edited

I'm pretty sure the OP will care whether her baby is distressed even if she's not there to hear it... what bizarre advice.

NewHere83 · 27/07/2026 14:59

Tulipsriver · 27/07/2026 14:57

If he's avoiding the hard conversations with his mum then you be very clear.

"No, to be honest I regret letting my 4 month go to yours for the full day and it won't be happening again until she's much older and I'm comfortable with it. Overnights aren't something I'm considering whilst she's so young".

If you do allow her to have her for any length of time (which I wouldn't, given she lives an hour away and ignores your wishes) tell her she is not to use Milton and the baby will travel in the car seat you bought.

If she tries to take her from you when you don't want to let her go, tell her "I'm holding her right now, I'll let you know when she's ready for a cuddle with granny".

If she pushes back just say it's not open for debate. Your feelings matter, even if your husband is too feeble to stand up for you.

All of this!!!!

99bottlesofkombucha · 27/07/2026 15:01

Sunnibee · 27/07/2026 13:47

I think the only thing you are being unreasonable about is the car seat. It's practical and helpful that she wanted to get one for her own car, but you should say if you don't think it's safe enough. You shouldn't have felt pressured into her having your baby for that long when she's so little. The dummy is none of her business and the clothes thing is ridiculous!!! So overall YANBU and I think you need to talk to your partner about establishing some boundaries.

You haven’t read the thread.

op, well done on saying you’d report the car as stolen. You are gaining in strength. If he mentions the overnight thing again you say that is not ever happening. You can go stay overnight, you can’t take my car though. I will be using it this week to take the children out.

i think ditching him is the only solution here. Is the house in both names?

outerspacepotato · 27/07/2026 15:02

You haven't even split and your MIL wants a custody setup for herself as 3rd parent.

Do not give her so much time much less regular days and nights away from you, the main caregiver, with your baby.

CurlewKate · 27/07/2026 15:11

You need to focus on what’s important here. ABSOLUTELY not for so long. ABSOLUTELY your car seat. Is the stroller safe? I don’t know whether the Milton thing is a bottom line-someone else will know. Concentrate on those. Let the things that don’t matter go. Dressing her in clothes she chooses? Not an issue.