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My son is treated like an outsider by his own siblings and it's breaking my heart

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Marielouisee · 23/07/2026 12:41

I honestly don't even know why I'm writing this. Maybe because I've kept it inside for so many years and I just need to let it out somewhere. I'm a mother of four kids. My oldest son is 20, my second son is 19, my daughter is 17 and my youngest son is 15. I love all four of them equally. There has never been a favorite. They all grew up in the same home with the same parents. My husband and I have always tried to give them love, support and everything we could. We weren't perfect parents but we genuinely tried our best. That's why this hurts so much because no matter what we've done over the years, nothing has changed.

My second son has had some health problems since he was little. He has never been seriously disabled or anything like that. He can take care of himself, he goes out on his own, he has hobbies, he has friends and he doesn't need someone looking after him all the time. He's just different from the other three. He's not as sharp, fast or energetic as they are and he has always had a weaker immune system. He would get sick more often and sometimes he needed more attention from us than the others did. As parents we couldn't just ignore that. If one of your children needs you more at certain times you naturally give them that extra care. We never loved him more than the others. We simply responded to what each child needed.

Because of his health there were times we had to cancel family vacations or trips at the last minute. We never felt right leaving one child behind while taking the other three. Looking back now I know those moments affected the others more than we realized. They missed out on some things because of it. But it wasn't like their childhood was full of disappointment. They still had birthday parties, holidays, sleepovers, school trips, sports, time with friends and special moments with us. We always tried to make sure every child had attention and opportunities. It just wasn't always possible to make everything perfect.

As they got older though, especially around sixteen or seventeen, something changed. The frustration they had toward us slowly became resentment toward their brother. Instead of blaming the situation they started blaming him. It was like in their minds he became the reason they had missed out on certain memories as kids. From that point things just kept getting worse. They stopped inviting him to things. If they planned to go somewhere together they left him out. If they were hanging out at home they acted like he wasn't there. They have a lot of the same friends because they're close in age but they rarely include him. Even their friends have started treating him like he's invisible because they follow the example my other kids set.

The hardest part for me isn't even the exclusion. It's hearing the words they say to him. More than once I've overheard them telling him they wish he had never been part of the family or that they don't want him around. Every time I hear something like that it feels like someone is ripping my heart apart. I look at my son and he never screams back or starts a fight. He just goes quiet. He smiles less than he used to. Sometimes he'll simply walk back to his room like he's already expecting it. Watching your own child slowly believe he doesn't belong in his own family is something I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Last week was another example that completely broke me. The other three bought tickets to a music concert together. My second son was excited because he likes the artist too. He asked if he could come with them. They had already bought tickets for themselves and never even considered buying one for him. They told him no and left without him. He didn't throw a tantrum or beg. He just said okay and went back to his room. I don't even think he expects to be included anymore. That acceptance hurts more than if he had cried.

The thing that makes this even harder is that he's genuinely such a sweet kid. He's gentle, kind and thoughtful. He has never been the child causing problems or getting into trouble. He's incredibly talented in his own way. He paints beautifully. Honestly some of his artwork amazes me. He has found a small group of friends through art classes and local galleries. He goes to exhibitions, talks to other artists and that's where I actually see him smile. Those people appreciate him for who he is. Sometimes I wonder if complete strangers understand my son better than his own siblings do.

My husband and I have spent years trying to fix this. We've had countless conversations with all of them. We've explained how hurtful their behavior is. We've asked them to imagine how they would feel if the roles were reversed. We've tried family time, one-on-one talks, setting rules and encouraging them to spend time together. We've cried in front of them.

I'm just so tired. I feel like I've failed all of my children somehow. I feel guilty toward my second son because he deserves siblings who love him and accept him. I also feel guilty toward my other three because maybe somewhere along the way they carried resentment that we didn't recognize soon enough. I keep replaying every parenting decision in my head wondering where we went wrong. Maybe we made mistakes. I'm sure we did. Every parent does. But I never imagined it would end with one of my children feeling like an outsider in the only family he's ever known.

I don't even know what I'm hoping to get from posting this. Maybe someone has been through something similar. Maybe someone has advice. Or maybe I just needed to tell someone because I've carried this pain for years and it feels unbearably lonely. I honestly pray no child ever has to wonder why their own brothers and sister don't want them around and I pray no mother ever has to stand there watching it happen while feeling completely powerless to stop it.

OP posts:
LouisaLudgate · 23/07/2026 13:53

As a parent you need to have a fucking backbone. When you hear terrible things being said you intervene. You state that its not acceptable and you won't tolerate it.

Kick them out of the house if you have to. FFS

BoredZelda · 23/07/2026 13:53

Marielouisee · 23/07/2026 13:41

My husband and I both have well-paying jobs. We worked hard to give our kids opportunities we never had. They all went to private schools, even though neither of us ever did.

Maybe it's just been my experience, but I've found that some kids in those environments can be surprisingly unkind. The attitudes can be very different. Of course not every child is like that, but I've definitely seen it, and sadly I've seen some of it in my own kids too.

They've grown up with a very comfortable life. I wouldn't say they're spoiled because they've never been denied discipline or boundaries, but I do think the environment they've grown up in has shaped them in ways I never expected. Sometimes I wonder if that has played a part in how they treat their brother.

The environment that shaped them was their home life. Their apparent resentment would have happened no matter what school they went to. State schools are not a utopia of kindness, inclusion and acceptance.

With every post we’re seeing more of who you are. With this post you talk about the lavish lifestyle you worked hard to provide them (they should be so grateful for that) And in another you decide the next course of action is to cut them off financially. Your only currency with your children appears to be actual currency. That’s your problem right there.

BarefootNosepicker · 23/07/2026 13:53

So two are adults, 1is 17 so very nearly an adult. One is 15 and not far off either? There’s absolutely nothing you can to do push their relationship…. If they just see the brother at Christmas etc that wouldn’t be so unusual. You’re going to end up with the other 3 going low/ no contact with you if you keep up like this.
It’s horrible having a disabled sibling, and you’re never allowed to talk or vent about it. It’s so hard, it’s lovely the other 3 have come together to support each other. Their closeness suggests it’s been much harder on them than you think. Just let them have it. They’ll just resent you more if you don’t.

WearyAuldWumman · 23/07/2026 13:54

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BeeBeeHive · 23/07/2026 13:56

What do your children say about why they exclude him and feel this way about him? You seem to be assuming it's because of his health issues or because of their privileged background but what do they say? It seems strange for all 3 of them to be very close despite different ages/ genders but yet they all strongly dislike ds. Is there something either with his personality, the dynamics, or the impact of their upbringing that you are not seeing clearly?

ValleyClouds · 23/07/2026 13:56

It’s horrible having a disabled sibling

It’s horrible BEING the disabled sibling and being punished simply for existing

Moreholidaysthanjudithchalmers · 23/07/2026 13:56

Is the 19 yr old self sufficient and working or is there a lot of support and scaffolding. I can understand them not wanting to be in a carer role.
If he is ok on own then I don’t understand why he wouldn’t just get a ticket and go perhaps with a friend. It all sounds very passive sadly retreating to his room.
The all 3 off to a gig is easily managed by you as the 15 and 17 year old can’t swan off without parental permission and presumably you are funding the 15 yr olds ticket.
You can’t force them to invite him.
It sounds like years of resentment. Probably something for family therapy.

WearyAuldWumman · 23/07/2026 13:58

ComedyGold007 · 23/07/2026 13:32

Not once has OP mentioned requiring her children to care for their brother so irrelevant replies.

They absolutely would have to care for him at the gig, based on his age alone. The three elder siblings are of working age. They youngest is under 16 and would be in their care.

ETA I've got this completely wrong.

BlueDillieDillie · 23/07/2026 13:59

I was the one who was penalised because my younger brother had mental health problems.
Can we go to the fair? "No of course we can't, you know he doesn't like the noise, we will go for a walk through the park."
Can we go on a boat trip? No you know he doesn't like the movement.
Holidays were as boring as fuck.

Your post has the same tone as the stories on YouTube about disfunctional families. (just saying)

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/07/2026 14:00

Marielouisee · 23/07/2026 13:19

I've thought about that many times. Who are these friends, and why are they even welcome in my home if they're comfortable mistreating one of my children?

As for my other kids, I'm seriously considering cutting off financial support. If they're old enough to deliberately exclude and disrespect their own brother while living under my roof, then they're old enough to start earning for themselves too.

Maybe that isn't fair. But neither is the way they've treated their brother for years. Perhaps then they'll understand that actions have consequences.

This is so like my childhood. Down to the missed holiday, the crying when I wouldn't be his friend and share my friends, and me finally leaving home at 17 because it was untenable. He stayed there until his 30s. And yes, I was probably, finally, not very nice to him. Because my mum expected me to be the carer of an older sibling and then an adult.

My mum is now in her 80s and still takes his side, expects me to baby him too, "well Terry, you're so much more capable, why can't you care for him?"

In your case it seems worse because the three are friends with each other. There was only one of me. But siblings don't have to be friends and I wouldn't be surprised if your endless pressure made them turn mean.

I'm not sure if you can go from crying and begging them to be friends to simply setting polite, firm boundaries. But you should try. They don't have to be friends, they have to be polite.

Tableforjoan · 23/07/2026 14:00

WearyAuldWumman · 23/07/2026 13:58

They absolutely would have to care for him at the gig, based on his age alone. The three elder siblings are of working age. They youngest is under 16 and would be in their care.

ETA I've got this completely wrong.

Edited

The second oldest is the hated sibling.

WearyAuldWumman · 23/07/2026 14:02

Tableforjoan · 23/07/2026 13:39

It’s the second son being left out so the 19 year old.

In that case, I've got this wrong and my previous replies should be ignored. Apologies to all.

ETA Yup. Have re-read. I'm completely in the wrong.

TrainyWainy · 23/07/2026 14:02

Marielouisee · 23/07/2026 13:16

"Overbearing expectations"? What exactly do you mean by that?

Is it really an overbearing expectation to hope they'd include their own brother when they make plans together or go to a concert? The other three do those things together all the time. I don't think it's unreasonable to wish they would include him once in a while, especially when he's done nothing to deserve being left out.

Yes.

Because the part about not being as fast or sharp is an indication that him being there would impact their experience. You've avoided spelling out exactly what that impact might be, which tbh is telling in itself. But they want to go to a gig, teens run to the front and fling themselves around at these things.

I'm not saying that wasn't hurtful for him either, but if he wants to go then other arrangements might need to be made.

outerspacepotato · 23/07/2026 14:03

Marielouisee · 23/07/2026 13:19

I've thought about that many times. Who are these friends, and why are they even welcome in my home if they're comfortable mistreating one of my children?

As for my other kids, I'm seriously considering cutting off financial support. If they're old enough to deliberately exclude and disrespect their own brother while living under my roof, then they're old enough to start earning for themselves too.

Maybe that isn't fair. But neither is the way they've treated their brother for years. Perhaps then they'll understand that actions have consequences.

You want 3 of your kids to basically carry the one you've revolved the family around. That's where parentifivation comes into play. If they won't do it with your guilt tripping, you'll try to force compliance through withdrawing financial assistance.

You do have a favourite child and you've made him central for their entire lives while the other kids wishes and wants are a distant second. Now if they don't center him, you're considering they should lose out financially.

Forced inclusion isn't true inclusion. You are ignoring boundaries they have set because of how you raised them to be second to to heir sibling.

He's old enough to have his own friends group. You can't expect your other kids to carry him through life. And they're allowed to set boundaries as to who their friends are. That's unreasonable.

They are glass children that you made.

Tableforjoan · 23/07/2026 14:03

It would help if you said what this being sick actually entailed.

How frequently if affected them and honestly how much extra they had to help to support him/you as parents.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 23/07/2026 14:04

Marielouisee · 23/07/2026 13:19

I've thought about that many times. Who are these friends, and why are they even welcome in my home if they're comfortable mistreating one of my children?

As for my other kids, I'm seriously considering cutting off financial support. If they're old enough to deliberately exclude and disrespect their own brother while living under my roof, then they're old enough to start earning for themselves too.

Maybe that isn't fair. But neither is the way they've treated their brother for years. Perhaps then they'll understand that actions have consequences.

You’re going to financially cut off a 15 and 17 yo who are likely still at school unless they toe your line? So stopping school fees or just a threat?
You and their dad break down into manipulative tears in front of them? 😬
no wonder they’ve formed a tight knit group.

thatgreenjuniper · 23/07/2026 14:04

2differenttypesofpeople · 23/07/2026 12:51

Whose funding the 17 and 15 year old when they book all these things without him? When you hear them say things to him, do you intervene?

I'd of come down on my kids like a ton of bricks if they did this to their sibling

how would that help? They'll just be quieter about the resentment. You can't force people to like each other.

All you'll win is that they keep quiet and remove their sibling from their life as soon as they are out of the house.

SuddenLull · 23/07/2026 14:05

BoredZelda · 23/07/2026 13:53

The environment that shaped them was their home life. Their apparent resentment would have happened no matter what school they went to. State schools are not a utopia of kindness, inclusion and acceptance.

With every post we’re seeing more of who you are. With this post you talk about the lavish lifestyle you worked hard to provide them (they should be so grateful for that) And in another you decide the next course of action is to cut them off financially. Your only currency with your children appears to be actual currency. That’s your problem right there.

I agree there's a real urge in the OP to blame this on absolutely anyone other than her own and her DH's parenting. Cutting off the three financially (and presumably keeping up support for the other child) in the circumstances described suggests dangerously poor judgement on the part of the OP.

I think his illness is a red herring here, OP. Your post is making me think of my childhood best friend's family looking back now, and putting together clues I didn't understand as a small child, it's pretty clear that my friend's mother had bad PND (almost certainly undiagnosed this was the 70s) after giving birth to her youngest brother, struggled to accept this whiny, clinging, irritable, high-needs baby who was unlike her existing children, and then, mired in appalling guilt for not having loved him as a baby, singled him out for the entire rest of his childhood, babied him, continually nagging his siblings into including him, when the fact is that he was a deeply unpleasant, tale-telling child, aware of his own anomalous status. He understood he wasn't the same as his siblings in some way, that his parents', especially his mother's, attitude to him was different. That became his identity, as he went about whining to be included.

I absolutely feel sorry for him now. He became an adult who has struggled on and off with poor MH and has struggled to find his place in the world, in and out of various religions organisations, looking for a 'family'. But from the POV of his siblings (and I was pretty much a sibling, I was there so much), he was someone who had a disturbingly different place and special 'status' in the family. It was a bad deal for everyone involved.

onlygeese · 23/07/2026 14:07

ValleyClouds · 23/07/2026 13:56

It’s horrible having a disabled sibling

It’s horrible BEING the disabled sibling and being punished simply for existing

Both of these things can be true at the same time. Which is why family therapy can be a good idea.

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 23/07/2026 14:07

Marielouisee · 23/07/2026 13:19

I've thought about that many times. Who are these friends, and why are they even welcome in my home if they're comfortable mistreating one of my children?

As for my other kids, I'm seriously considering cutting off financial support. If they're old enough to deliberately exclude and disrespect their own brother while living under my roof, then they're old enough to start earning for themselves too.

Maybe that isn't fair. But neither is the way they've treated their brother for years. Perhaps then they'll understand that actions have consequences.

I would definitely stop their financial support as they don't deserve it.

I wouldn't keep supporting people who are so nasty.

Your poor son.

ohdear2 · 23/07/2026 14:08

My little sister became mad at me and stopped talking to me when we were young adults. She still lived at home and although I had moved out - when I returned for a dinner or whatever she would literally ignore me at the dinner table. It was hurtful, I didn’t know why so reduced my visits to my parents.

Years later I realised really my parents should have said this is our house and there will be none of this here. Whatever you are upset about with your sister you need to sort out we will not accept you treating her like that under our roof.

You are now only thinking of consequences for your kids. Did you pay for these concert tickets where your son was excluded? There is usually a ring leader in these things

thatgreenjuniper · 23/07/2026 14:09

Marielouisee · 23/07/2026 13:41

My husband and I both have well-paying jobs. We worked hard to give our kids opportunities we never had. They all went to private schools, even though neither of us ever did.

Maybe it's just been my experience, but I've found that some kids in those environments can be surprisingly unkind. The attitudes can be very different. Of course not every child is like that, but I've definitely seen it, and sadly I've seen some of it in my own kids too.

They've grown up with a very comfortable life. I wouldn't say they're spoiled because they've never been denied discipline or boundaries, but I do think the environment they've grown up in has shaped them in ways I never expected. Sometimes I wonder if that has played a part in how they treat their brother.

what a bizarre way to talk about your OWN children. You sound more like the rejected child that their mum

do think the environment they've grown up in has shaped them in ways I never expected.
you were literally there to create or correct their environment? Are you blaming the school life instead of your parenting? How strange.

times we had to cancel family vacations or trips at the last minute.
you can't go back in time but why couldn't one parent stay and the other one go? You created the resentment to be honest, and now you want to punish your kids for it.

At best, you will make them dislike their brother full stop, resent you, and lose them

You have a very odd way to think about your own children.

Lunde · 23/07/2026 14:09

Marielouisee · 23/07/2026 13:11

Did you grow up without siblings?

I grew up with 2 older brothers and I can honestly say I was never included in their social plans as a teenager. I have 2 dds and they didn't do a lot of things together in their teens either - it was mostly out with friends.

I think you pleading and crying to include him in everything as though they were primary school children may have had the opposite effect and pushed them further apart.

Does your ds ever take the initiative with his siblings? Invite them to things? Or does he wait to be "included" in their plans/activities?

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 23/07/2026 14:09

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 23/07/2026 14:07

I would definitely stop their financial support as they don't deserve it.

I wouldn't keep supporting people who are so nasty.

Your poor son.

What level of financial support would you withdraw from your teenagers @MustTryHarderAndHarder ?
just school fees and social stuff, or would you withhold food and clothes? Start charging them for board?

Arregaithel · 23/07/2026 14:10

This is one of the most heart-breaking things I have read @Marielouisee

If your son had been diagnosed with cancer would they still blame him because they missed out?

Who is the ringleader, your eldest or your daughter?

Irrespective, how contemptible of all three if they are using his poor health to exclude him because of their resentment.

You and your husband, despite trying over the years, have to lay it on the line for the three of them.

You have control over finances, definitely reconsider how you fund their allowances.

Also non-essential shopping trips, funding for gig tickets, wi-fi, lifts to their friends/into town, essentially everything you provide for them outwith their own resources.

Please do not stop trying to advocate for your second born, otherwise this has tragedy written all over it.

Kindness in your home costs nothing, it is vital you and your husband enforce it.