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My son is treated like an outsider by his own siblings and it's breaking my heart

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Marielouisee · 23/07/2026 12:41

I honestly don't even know why I'm writing this. Maybe because I've kept it inside for so many years and I just need to let it out somewhere. I'm a mother of four kids. My oldest son is 20, my second son is 19, my daughter is 17 and my youngest son is 15. I love all four of them equally. There has never been a favorite. They all grew up in the same home with the same parents. My husband and I have always tried to give them love, support and everything we could. We weren't perfect parents but we genuinely tried our best. That's why this hurts so much because no matter what we've done over the years, nothing has changed.

My second son has had some health problems since he was little. He has never been seriously disabled or anything like that. He can take care of himself, he goes out on his own, he has hobbies, he has friends and he doesn't need someone looking after him all the time. He's just different from the other three. He's not as sharp, fast or energetic as they are and he has always had a weaker immune system. He would get sick more often and sometimes he needed more attention from us than the others did. As parents we couldn't just ignore that. If one of your children needs you more at certain times you naturally give them that extra care. We never loved him more than the others. We simply responded to what each child needed.

Because of his health there were times we had to cancel family vacations or trips at the last minute. We never felt right leaving one child behind while taking the other three. Looking back now I know those moments affected the others more than we realized. They missed out on some things because of it. But it wasn't like their childhood was full of disappointment. They still had birthday parties, holidays, sleepovers, school trips, sports, time with friends and special moments with us. We always tried to make sure every child had attention and opportunities. It just wasn't always possible to make everything perfect.

As they got older though, especially around sixteen or seventeen, something changed. The frustration they had toward us slowly became resentment toward their brother. Instead of blaming the situation they started blaming him. It was like in their minds he became the reason they had missed out on certain memories as kids. From that point things just kept getting worse. They stopped inviting him to things. If they planned to go somewhere together they left him out. If they were hanging out at home they acted like he wasn't there. They have a lot of the same friends because they're close in age but they rarely include him. Even their friends have started treating him like he's invisible because they follow the example my other kids set.

The hardest part for me isn't even the exclusion. It's hearing the words they say to him. More than once I've overheard them telling him they wish he had never been part of the family or that they don't want him around. Every time I hear something like that it feels like someone is ripping my heart apart. I look at my son and he never screams back or starts a fight. He just goes quiet. He smiles less than he used to. Sometimes he'll simply walk back to his room like he's already expecting it. Watching your own child slowly believe he doesn't belong in his own family is something I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Last week was another example that completely broke me. The other three bought tickets to a music concert together. My second son was excited because he likes the artist too. He asked if he could come with them. They had already bought tickets for themselves and never even considered buying one for him. They told him no and left without him. He didn't throw a tantrum or beg. He just said okay and went back to his room. I don't even think he expects to be included anymore. That acceptance hurts more than if he had cried.

The thing that makes this even harder is that he's genuinely such a sweet kid. He's gentle, kind and thoughtful. He has never been the child causing problems or getting into trouble. He's incredibly talented in his own way. He paints beautifully. Honestly some of his artwork amazes me. He has found a small group of friends through art classes and local galleries. He goes to exhibitions, talks to other artists and that's where I actually see him smile. Those people appreciate him for who he is. Sometimes I wonder if complete strangers understand my son better than his own siblings do.

My husband and I have spent years trying to fix this. We've had countless conversations with all of them. We've explained how hurtful their behavior is. We've asked them to imagine how they would feel if the roles were reversed. We've tried family time, one-on-one talks, setting rules and encouraging them to spend time together. We've cried in front of them.

I'm just so tired. I feel like I've failed all of my children somehow. I feel guilty toward my second son because he deserves siblings who love him and accept him. I also feel guilty toward my other three because maybe somewhere along the way they carried resentment that we didn't recognize soon enough. I keep replaying every parenting decision in my head wondering where we went wrong. Maybe we made mistakes. I'm sure we did. Every parent does. But I never imagined it would end with one of my children feeling like an outsider in the only family he's ever known.

I don't even know what I'm hoping to get from posting this. Maybe someone has been through something similar. Maybe someone has advice. Or maybe I just needed to tell someone because I've carried this pain for years and it feels unbearably lonely. I honestly pray no child ever has to wonder why their own brothers and sister don't want them around and I pray no mother ever has to stand there watching it happen while feeling completely powerless to stop it.

OP posts:
Moonnstarz · 24/07/2026 08:42

the7Vabo · 24/07/2026 08:38

My read it’s more primal than that.

We feel our DM loves DS2 more than us. She often speaks of his birth in a dramatic fashion ie. “It’s part of his life story.” She treats him as in need of protection because he had some respiratory illnesses as a child. Instead of seeing him as artistic and us as academic & sporty, she sees him as someone who is less able and needs to be minded. We have our own stuff going on. We are “private school brats” when DB also went to private school.

We are still being spoken to as if our DB is disabled or seriously ill when he isn’t nor has he ever been.

We are told to appreciate our good health when DB has been in good health for several years but is still being treated the same.

We feel like we just don’t matter as much to our parents.

Edited

Exactly this. Yes it sounds like DS2 perhaps had a tricky start to life, but it sounds like the mum still fusses over him while ignoring the needs of the other children.

KitRange · 24/07/2026 08:44

To realistically comment on this we need more info.

What exactly is your sons disability/illness?
How exactly does it impact him?

It's okay saying he is slower etc but does he need others to slow down?
Does he need anyones help to do anything?
Can he function the same as your other children?

I definitely think it is more than you are saying it is, if you needed to cancel holidays etc then no he isn't just a little slower etc, he needs care, why would your other kids want to do that?

I agree with others, you have prioritised this one child, which yes okay he needed it, but in what way did you show the others they also had a priority ie take them out individually and spend that individual time with them also?

Maybe they resent their sibling because of you both, you both focussed on him and I see nowhere where you then gave this attention to the others individually? they still needed it.

SummerPeonies2026 · 24/07/2026 08:47

the7Vabo · 24/07/2026 08:38

My read it’s more primal than that.

We feel our DM loves DS2 more than us. She often speaks of his birth in a dramatic fashion ie. “It’s part of his life story.” She treats him as in need of protection because he had some respiratory illnesses as a child. Instead of seeing him as artistic and us as academic & sporty, she sees him as someone who is less able and needs to be minded. We have our own stuff going on. We are “private school brats” when DB also went to private school.

We are still being spoken to as if our DB is disabled or seriously ill when he isn’t nor has he ever been.

We are told to appreciate our good health when DB has been in good health for several years but is still being treated the same.

We feel like we just don’t matter as much to our parents.

Edited

And even with that version would make it acceptable to you to wish your own brother dead? And to bully and intimidate him?

Even if they are incandescent and it’s even worse than your primal response - does it, and would it ever justify their reaction?

This is learnt behavior at school, this is precisely how it can be in some private schools. Where illness can find you in a very difficult position with others scathing and viewing it as weakness, runt like responses - and ‘strength/‘aggression/ambition/alpha behaviour’ is celebrated and praised both on and off the pitches. It is endemic.

Your children have not absorbed your values op, that is why it’s so shocking to you.

Monty36 · 24/07/2026 08:47

I thought the Op was very clear that apart from one or two trips being cancelled the other siblings wanted for nothing. And nowhere does it suggest family life was on hold for years and always because if DS 2

TrainyWainy · 24/07/2026 08:48

Agree more info needed. We've had a very fragmented and unclearly written version, so for example does not needing someone with him all the time mean he never ever needs a carer or does sometimes? Either by accident or design it's unclear.

But I think it's fairly obvious OP is not going to be pinning down exactly how much support he might've needed to go to the gig, for example.

SummerPeonies2026 · 24/07/2026 08:50

Monty36 · 24/07/2026 08:47

I thought the Op was very clear that apart from one or two trips being cancelled the other siblings wanted for nothing. And nowhere does it suggest family life was on hold for years and always because if DS 2

Exactly. It even says dc2 was often packed off to grandparents to avoid letting the others down. I had to bite my tongue because that sounds a lot like the dc3 have been pandered to - even to the extent dc2 was sick and sent away.

I really feel for op. It’s an incredibly difficult position to be in as a mother.

TrainyWainy · 24/07/2026 08:51

Monty36 · 24/07/2026 08:47

I thought the Op was very clear that apart from one or two trips being cancelled the other siblings wanted for nothing. And nowhere does it suggest family life was on hold for years and always because if DS 2

She doesn't say one or two, and as it's plural that means it definitely couldn't be just the one. The language used makes it possible this happened a lot. We just don't know.

MargaretThursday · 24/07/2026 08:55

the7Vabo · 24/07/2026 08:38

My read it’s more primal than that.

We feel our DM loves DS2 more than us. She often speaks of his birth in a dramatic fashion ie. “It’s part of his life story.” She treats him as in need of protection because he had some respiratory illnesses as a child. Instead of seeing him as artistic and us as academic & sporty, she sees him as someone who is less able and needs to be minded. We have our own stuff going on. We are “private school brats” when DB also went to private school.

We are still being spoken to as if our DB is disabled or seriously ill when he isn’t nor has he ever been.

We are told to appreciate our good health when DB has been in good health for several years but is still being treated the same.

We feel like we just don’t matter as much to our parents.

Edited

Agree. The first one is just another biased against the other dc.

I'd also add in what happened to produce the comments that they wished he hadn't been born. I mean it's clearly a nasty comment but context may show where it's coming from.
Was it said out of frustration or in response to something #2 said, something op said, or totally out of the blue?
The last seems the least likely to me.

the7Vabo · 24/07/2026 08:55

SummerPeonies2026 · 24/07/2026 08:47

And even with that version would make it acceptable to you to wish your own brother dead? And to bully and intimidate him?

Even if they are incandescent and it’s even worse than your primal response - does it, and would it ever justify their reaction?

This is learnt behavior at school, this is precisely how it can be in some private schools. Where illness can find you in a very difficult position with others scathing and viewing it as weakness, runt like responses - and ‘strength/‘aggression/ambition/alpha behaviour’ is celebrated and praised both on and off the pitches. It is endemic.

Your children have not absorbed your values op, that is why it’s so shocking to you.

I never said the behaviour was ok. That is a different thing.

But you won’t actually solve anything without understanding. And actually recognised that’s it’s so fundamental your other children feels less love might well end the behaviour.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 24/07/2026 08:56

Cancelling family holidays for really long and harsh colds seems like overkill to me. Fair enough one parent stays home with the sick child but wholly disproportionate to cancel the entire families long sought after time.

We all need breaks away from the daily grind whether that's work, school and exams or even just compassion fatigue.

No amount of talking to them can force them to include him. You should have a zero tolerance for bullying language in your home though.

My cousin and I were often forced to include my other cousin and when things didn't go her way she would go and tell her dad and all hell would break loose because she felt bullied and left out. God, it was miserable. The resentment came from small things like her getting the TV remote to choose what we watched because she drummed up sympathy from the adults for being bullied, when really she was the bully. There was always favouritism.

You say your son isn't like this, well, I believe you, but that still doesn't mean his mum isn't causing a fuss and and an uncomfortable atmosphere.

You've always forced them to "miss out" together. They don't want to anymore.

And no they shouldn't be saying things like they wish he was never born, but he isn't their child. They don't have to wish he was born. They have obviously spent a lot of time thinking of how their lives would have been different if they hadn't had to cancel plans as an entire family. Being blood related does not mean they have to be his friend even if he hasn't done anything wrong. They don't need a reason to not pursue a relationship with someone.

It's a hard pill to swallow, but you're going to have to. You need to support your son to find his own friends, and put a stop to the horrible language being used in your home by adults and almost adults no less.

Elsvieta · 24/07/2026 09:10

Your kids are all either adults or very nearly adults. Pretty soon all four will be living separately from each other and from you, busy with careers, friends, partners etc. You are at the tail end of sibling relationships being important. It's a shame all four don't get on, but it will matter less and less as time goes on and it's much too late to do anything about it now - all the kids are past the age where parents are the most important influence. It's all about their peer group now - and then it'll be partners. Their resentment of their brother will recede as they move into adult life and spend less time thinking or caring about childhood stuff. Your son will care less about what his siblings are doing as he forms more important relationships.

Accept that you can't referee your kids' relationships and just nurture your own relationship with each of them. And for the love of God don't ever try to get your way by crying - that's a mother nobody wants to visit.

SuddenLull · 24/07/2026 09:13

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 24/07/2026 08:56

Cancelling family holidays for really long and harsh colds seems like overkill to me. Fair enough one parent stays home with the sick child but wholly disproportionate to cancel the entire families long sought after time.

We all need breaks away from the daily grind whether that's work, school and exams or even just compassion fatigue.

No amount of talking to them can force them to include him. You should have a zero tolerance for bullying language in your home though.

My cousin and I were often forced to include my other cousin and when things didn't go her way she would go and tell her dad and all hell would break loose because she felt bullied and left out. God, it was miserable. The resentment came from small things like her getting the TV remote to choose what we watched because she drummed up sympathy from the adults for being bullied, when really she was the bully. There was always favouritism.

You say your son isn't like this, well, I believe you, but that still doesn't mean his mum isn't causing a fuss and and an uncomfortable atmosphere.

You've always forced them to "miss out" together. They don't want to anymore.

And no they shouldn't be saying things like they wish he was never born, but he isn't their child. They don't have to wish he was born. They have obviously spent a lot of time thinking of how their lives would have been different if they hadn't had to cancel plans as an entire family. Being blood related does not mean they have to be his friend even if he hasn't done anything wrong. They don't need a reason to not pursue a relationship with someone.

It's a hard pill to swallow, but you're going to have to. You need to support your son to find his own friends, and put a stop to the horrible language being used in your home by adults and almost adults no less.

I’ve seen similar happen in families where one child played sports at an elite level, and this dominated family life totally because the parents needed to drive the child everywhere — early-mornings training in the pool, weekends at camps or competitions etc. Younger children who couldn’t be left home alone spending their weekends in car parks or doing their homework courtside, over and over. I’ve seen it cause long lasting cracks, between the other children and the sporty sibling, and between the other children and their parents, who made consistently poor decisions about prioritising a sport over the family’s quality of life.

Anything, whether it’s a talent or a medical condition or something else, that singles out a single child needs to be carefully managed so as not to detract unduly from the other children’s lives.

CocoPlum · 24/07/2026 09:14

dh280125 · 23/07/2026 18:07

It’s something weird for sure. I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt but the AI use and avoidance of engaging on anything except how terrible they are… it’s dodgy af.

Also timelines still aren't adding up. This started as the other children got to 16/17, and conversations have been had many times "over the years" but the ages are 20, 17 and 15.

Not to.mention even the siblings I've known who were/are close would generally not being going out to concerts etc on the regular at those ages.

SummerPeonies2026 · 24/07/2026 09:14

Elsvieta · 24/07/2026 09:10

Your kids are all either adults or very nearly adults. Pretty soon all four will be living separately from each other and from you, busy with careers, friends, partners etc. You are at the tail end of sibling relationships being important. It's a shame all four don't get on, but it will matter less and less as time goes on and it's much too late to do anything about it now - all the kids are past the age where parents are the most important influence. It's all about their peer group now - and then it'll be partners. Their resentment of their brother will recede as they move into adult life and spend less time thinking or caring about childhood stuff. Your son will care less about what his siblings are doing as he forms more important relationships.

Accept that you can't referee your kids' relationships and just nurture your own relationship with each of them. And for the love of God don't ever try to get your way by crying - that's a mother nobody wants to visit.

I wholeheartedly disagree, this pattern is very likely to continue into adulthood if unchallenged. You risk dc2 not being invited to weddings, family Christmases, family BBQs and far from this all just evaporating it’s likely to intensify with new babies, relationships and the next stage.

It needs to be dealt with, individually, and robustly.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 24/07/2026 09:16

SuddenLull · 24/07/2026 09:13

I’ve seen similar happen in families where one child played sports at an elite level, and this dominated family life totally because the parents needed to drive the child everywhere — early-mornings training in the pool, weekends at camps or competitions etc. Younger children who couldn’t be left home alone spending their weekends in car parks or doing their homework courtside, over and over. I’ve seen it cause long lasting cracks, between the other children and the sporty sibling, and between the other children and their parents, who made consistently poor decisions about prioritising a sport over the family’s quality of life.

Anything, whether it’s a talent or a medical condition or something else, that singles out a single child needs to be carefully managed so as not to detract unduly from the other children’s lives.

Yes we have this exact situation going on with 2nd generation cousins too. History is doomed to repeat itself.

SummerPeonies2026 · 24/07/2026 09:17

SuddenLull · 24/07/2026 09:13

I’ve seen similar happen in families where one child played sports at an elite level, and this dominated family life totally because the parents needed to drive the child everywhere — early-mornings training in the pool, weekends at camps or competitions etc. Younger children who couldn’t be left home alone spending their weekends in car parks or doing their homework courtside, over and over. I’ve seen it cause long lasting cracks, between the other children and the sporty sibling, and between the other children and their parents, who made consistently poor decisions about prioritising a sport over the family’s quality of life.

Anything, whether it’s a talent or a medical condition or something else, that singles out a single child needs to be carefully managed so as not to detract unduly from the other children’s lives.

Unavoidable illness is not a chosen elite sport. No one chooses to be seriously ill.

Fortheendoftime · 24/07/2026 09:26

I think this thread is a bit pointless as most people don’t really know what a ‘bad cold’ can mean. Repeated nearly dying, life support machines, ambulances, a and e, resus, for those unlucky enough to be severely affected by viruses that in the majority cause minor illness. OP, your other kids also don’t understand how bad ‘a bad cold’ can be. Very few people do. No use trying to make your kids see, perhaps they will become more compassionate as they grow up. Sending best wishes.

JMSA · 24/07/2026 09:28

Tinks2026 · 23/07/2026 13:11

She's been nagging at them and weeping them for years while forcing them to include their brother in everything and treating them as a resource for her unwell son. And that's failed now, so no amount of name calling or nagging will change that I'm afraid.

You’re just not a very nice person, are you? Either that or you’re doing a shit ton of projection. Either way, maybe stop trying to kick the OP while she’s down.

OP, I’m sure you’ve done your level best over the years. You DO sound like a good parent. It’s a difficult and heartbreaking situation for sure. If you could go back, I know that there are things you’d do differently (like any of us!), but at the time we’re so focused on just trying to get through. It’s only later - when our kids get older and more expressive of their feelings - that it catches up with us. I would definitely suggest family counselling/mediation and wish you all the best.

lightseeker · 24/07/2026 09:41

Hi OP - this sounds awful and I can't believe some of the replies you've had, justifying the behaviour of the 3 teens.

It sounds like the concert incident has really brought home how cruel they are. I'm not surprised you're devastated.

If these were my teens, they would not be having friends round for the foreseeable. They don't deserve it. I would also stop giving them any money. They don't deserve anything.

Your eldest is 20 ffs. He needs to grow up and get a grip. Disgraceful behaviour.

Do you feel there is one child who is influencing the others? What is the dynamic?

They actually sound like they are colluding in an abusive dynamic. Don't put up with it a second longer. So what if they missed out on some holidays or whatever. Sounds like they had a better, more privileged and more loving start to life than many children. What family is perfect? Stop blaming yourself OP.

There is quite a big age gap between 20 and 15. I'm surprised they hang out as a group at all.

When my DC were 20, 18 and 16 they very much had their different friends - reflecting their different lives at different unis or schools. One of mine is not as 'quick' or as confident as the other two. But they never left her out. They are all very different and have their own friends and own social lives.

Is the 20 year-old at uni? Tell him not to bother coming back until his horrible attitude changes.

I guess the 17 year old girl is doing A-levels or just finished them? Just give her nothing until she changes. Get a family counsellor in maybe?

They all have to learn some kindness, compassion and humility or their lives will be disasters if they think they can go out into the world and treat people like this. Stand firm OP. They are still young. They can still change.

SuddenLull · 24/07/2026 09:41

SummerPeonies2026 · 24/07/2026 09:17

Unavoidable illness is not a chosen elite sport. No one chooses to be seriously ill.

No, and I never suggested it did, but the fact it is makes little difference to siblings whose parents mismanage a situation which puts one child in the middle of family life in a way that needlessly disadvantages the others. What exactly singles one child out matters less than how the parents manage its impact on everyone else, when at least some of that is optional (as it sounds when the OP says they cancelled family holidays, not because they thought the fragile child was dying but because it ‘seemed unfair to leave one child behind and take three’ — bluntly, that’s a situation where one parent stays at home with the sick child and the other takes the remaining three on the planned holiday.)

lightseeker · 24/07/2026 09:48

So what if they missed a few holidays! Ffs, some children grow up in the care system. Or never have holidays. They still manage to be decent, kind people.

I can't believe posters are trying to justify cruelty towards this DS on the basis of a few missed trips.

the7Vabo · 24/07/2026 09:54

Fortheendoftime · 24/07/2026 09:26

I think this thread is a bit pointless as most people don’t really know what a ‘bad cold’ can mean. Repeated nearly dying, life support machines, ambulances, a and e, resus, for those unlucky enough to be severely affected by viruses that in the majority cause minor illness. OP, your other kids also don’t understand how bad ‘a bad cold’ can be. Very few people do. No use trying to make your kids see, perhaps they will become more compassionate as they grow up. Sending best wishes.

Most children do not nearly die from a respiratory illness in 2026. And I say that as someone who has had kids in hospital for respiratory illnesses.
I think people understand that for people with disabilities, serious illness, like cystic fibrosis, serious muscle weakness, undergoing chemo, a cold can be huge.
Clearly DS was sicker than an average child but the only diagnosis mentioned is a weak immune system. That’s all the info we have to go off. He’s also been healthy for several years.

Monty36 · 24/07/2026 09:55

lightseeker · 24/07/2026 09:48

So what if they missed a few holidays! Ffs, some children grow up in the care system. Or never have holidays. They still manage to be decent, kind people.

I can't believe posters are trying to justify cruelty towards this DS on the basis of a few missed trips.

I did begin to wonder if this was an anti disabled thread. Of which I have seen a fair few.

What is alarming is the Chinese whispers. A suggestion of something written by someone becomes a fact. And it then goes on in the thread as a fact. When it was a mere suggestion by one poster.

the7Vabo · 24/07/2026 09:55

lightseeker · 24/07/2026 09:41

Hi OP - this sounds awful and I can't believe some of the replies you've had, justifying the behaviour of the 3 teens.

It sounds like the concert incident has really brought home how cruel they are. I'm not surprised you're devastated.

If these were my teens, they would not be having friends round for the foreseeable. They don't deserve it. I would also stop giving them any money. They don't deserve anything.

Your eldest is 20 ffs. He needs to grow up and get a grip. Disgraceful behaviour.

Do you feel there is one child who is influencing the others? What is the dynamic?

They actually sound like they are colluding in an abusive dynamic. Don't put up with it a second longer. So what if they missed out on some holidays or whatever. Sounds like they had a better, more privileged and more loving start to life than many children. What family is perfect? Stop blaming yourself OP.

There is quite a big age gap between 20 and 15. I'm surprised they hang out as a group at all.

When my DC were 20, 18 and 16 they very much had their different friends - reflecting their different lives at different unis or schools. One of mine is not as 'quick' or as confident as the other two. But they never left her out. They are all very different and have their own friends and own social lives.

Is the 20 year-old at uni? Tell him not to bother coming back until his horrible attitude changes.

I guess the 17 year old girl is doing A-levels or just finished them? Just give her nothing until she changes. Get a family counsellor in maybe?

They all have to learn some kindness, compassion and humility or their lives will be disasters if they think they can go out into the world and treat people like this. Stand firm OP. They are still young. They can still change.

Edited

And they

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 24/07/2026 09:56

SummerPeonies2026 · 24/07/2026 09:14

I wholeheartedly disagree, this pattern is very likely to continue into adulthood if unchallenged. You risk dc2 not being invited to weddings, family Christmases, family BBQs and far from this all just evaporating it’s likely to intensify with new babies, relationships and the next stage.

It needs to be dealt with, individually, and robustly.

Well if op and her dh continue with the plan to cut off the other dc and kick them all out then can’t see the parents being invited to these life events either!

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