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AIBU to feel uneasy about a teacher carrying in a distressed child

137 replies

Cityslickers · Today 10:44

I dropped my DD off at school on Tuesday and a slightly older child (but still infants age) was screaming about going into school. The teacher picked him up / manhandled him in, which made him more distressed and he was flailing his arms and legs about etc. His lunch, bottle and glasses were all on the floor. AIBU in thinking this isn’t normally done? I feel a bit upset still thinking about it.

It seems to be quite common with kids struggling going into school but it just felt uncomfortable to watch.

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Bushmillsbabe · Today 15:13

Nearly50omg · Today 15:00

Teachers aren’t allowed to manhandle or put their hands on children!! This needs reporting to offstead as the school need to be told they have to learn how to manage children legally and correctly!!!

They are, but ideally they would have received specific training in ways to physically support children to keep them and/or other safe

There was a girl at my daughters school who was waiting for a specialist placement, she kept trying to climb the fence to try to get out of the school onto a busy road - were the teachers supossed to just let her? And another who was quite violent towards other children and needed to be restrained.

OneShyQuail · Today 15:14

Cityslickers · Today 11:37

I completely get that but there was 0 negotiation at all she immediately went to carry him in (which she struggled with) and he was fighting it with his arms and legs and screaming.

As he should if no parents there! Who was supervising the child? Where were the parents?

Difficult start to the day for the teacher too and believe me none of us want to have to do these things! Sometimes it is a necessary, planned intervention. You would be absolutely shocked to see what we deal with in my AP.

OneShyQuail · Today 15:16

P.s if they are restraint trained teachers are absolutely allowed to intervene to move children etc, but it is the last resort for all involved and used if child, other children or staff are in danger.
All those saying it cant be done have absolutely no idea of restraint training and what policies and procedures the school / child may have. That is total confidential information

Happyjoe · Today 15:21

I would've thought the only reason to pick up someone else's child without permission is if they are in danger.

HumberSquid · Today 15:26

Happyjoe · Today 15:21

I would've thought the only reason to pick up someone else's child without permission is if they are in danger.

The way society is going, not even then. Probably better to let them be injured or killed than risk offending the sensibilities of their parent or a passing stranger.

Newyearawaits · Today 15:39

Cityslickers · Today 10:55

Would you report it to the head? I understand it might be a last resort but I didn’t see any attempt to calm him down/ negotiate she sort of just picked him up.

You don't know the circumstances or previous interventions to support the the child going to school.

MrsFaustus · Today 15:41

Funny how so many people these days are good at saying how people shouldn’t deal with a situstion but few have sensible alternatives to suggest. Most schools these days do not have ‘spare’ trained staff to wait patiently until a child at mainstream school is ready to go in, most parents need to get to work. A friend’s child was a runner who would climb the fence at primary school, how would the no touch rule work?

LondonLass2026 · Today 15:46

Wind your neck in, op. My mum worked in early yesrs and it was mothers like you who made her, and everyone else's jobs really hard.

Theworldsgonemadagain · Today 15:52

I work in a school, it all depends on if the parents have given permissions for picking up and restraint. There will be a reason, the child probably was calmed down elsewhere there are inclusion rooms ect. Some kids are allowed to run around the school grounds and waste so much time refusing to go into class.

mindymoo11 · Today 15:55

Nearly50omg · Today 15:00

Teachers aren’t allowed to manhandle or put their hands on children!! This needs reporting to offstead as the school need to be told they have to learn how to manage children legally and correctly!!!

I work in a school and I did safeguarding training. We ARE allowed to put hands on students if it prevents them from being at risk.

Leaving a child outside alone in this case is putting the child at risk.

How is picking up a crying child, damaging the child?

Theworldsgonemadagain · Today 15:57

OneShyQuail · Today 15:16

P.s if they are restraint trained teachers are absolutely allowed to intervene to move children etc, but it is the last resort for all involved and used if child, other children or staff are in danger.
All those saying it cant be done have absolutely no idea of restraint training and what policies and procedures the school / child may have. That is total confidential information

Edited

Spot on, there are always certain staff that have had this training. We have kids that stab others with pencils and all sorts. Do parents want thier children hurt by one of these kids because they think it's cruel to pick them up?! All staff can use 'reasonable force' in an emergency situation. You have to fill in paperwork about 20 pages long though.

Easytoconfuse · Today 16:04

ineedaheronow · Today 10:56

You have no idea what’s happened, the relation of the child to the teacher or what sort of plans are in place.

I’d leave it.

Would that be the same as when people left it in cases where SEND children were abused, particularly if they had limited speech so couldn't make themselves heard? And, of course, nobody wanted to believe that teachers would do things like that.

I would ask to speak to the head teacher, keep it low key, and just make sure she's aware that you saw no attempt to engage.

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