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Old lady keeps approaching my toddler, making me feel uncomfortable

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housinghun · 14/07/2026 11:04

I have a 2 year old and and when we go out sometimes we will see an older lady (about 60s early 70s) and she will always approach my son.

It started off as "Can I say hello?".
I agreed.

Next time she attempted to remove his cap "to see his face".
This made me feel extremely uncomfortable, touching my son.

OH took our son out last week and he told me that an old lady had smiled through the window at them as they walked past.
She had come running out the house and shouted "hello" but by that time they were gone down the road.
It was her.
I had never really mentioned this to him and this was the first time he has seen her.

I know it's innocent but it makes me feel really uncomfortable now going past as I don't want a stranger touching my son.

I did tell her "please don't touch him" as I don't want him getting used to strangers touching him.

I am over protective of my son but just wanted others views.
AIBU to feel this way?

AIBU

OP posts:
BeRealOpalWasp · Yesterday 10:04

The best interests for your child are for you to raise them to not be afraid of strangers - eg nurses, doctors etc. as you have already mentioned.

It's actually very sensible to ensure your young child has caution around strangers. Teaching them it's OK to accept cuddles from strangers sends a very mixed message. Besides, my 4yo son would not want to hug a stranger anyway. Surely he has a choice in that.

Also, comparing a random woman to a medical professional is completely disingenuous.

EagerPlayer · Yesterday 10:09

BeRealOpalWasp · Yesterday 10:04

The best interests for your child are for you to raise them to not be afraid of strangers - eg nurses, doctors etc. as you have already mentioned.

It's actually very sensible to ensure your young child has caution around strangers. Teaching them it's OK to accept cuddles from strangers sends a very mixed message. Besides, my 4yo son would not want to hug a stranger anyway. Surely he has a choice in that.

Also, comparing a random woman to a medical professional is completely disingenuous.

It’s the op who spoke about medical professionals.
Theres a big difference in the understanding of a 2 v a 4 year old.
and of course teach them to be wary -as I said!

chedderland · Yesterday 10:14

Pfb by any chance?

Tourmalines · Yesterday 10:16

housinghun · Yesterday 09:59

@Tourmalines is that all you got lol? You sound like one of those football hooligans 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Match time isn't on until tonight mate lol

I also asked you if would be OK with a random person all up on your face?
Removing your sun hat to "see your face"?
To try and hug you?
To hold your hand?

Are all these things acceptable for someone to do to you in the street?

I don't think so lol

Do the woman a favour and cross the road , she’s better off ! 🤣🤣

Rachelshair · Yesterday 10:18

housinghun · Yesterday 09:33

For the 100th time I don't want my son being forced to into a hug by a random woman.

Her chasing my son and OH down the street isn't normal.

I agree 100%. Some very odd replies here. If you're uneasy, you should absolutely be wary. You don't need permission from anyone.

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 10:33

housinghun · 14/07/2026 18:33

@KilkennyCats Don't you watch the news?
Young kids murdered by strangers.

April Jones, James Bulger, Holly Wells, Jessica Chapman, Sarah Payne, Milly Dowler.

Im not saying for one minute this lady has ill intentions but I don't want my son getting used to talking/touching strangers on the street.

OH dosent like it either and he's quite laid back.

Other parents round here find her quite strange and are uncomfortable with her touching their kids

Oh now

This is how innocent people are harmed.

This lady has done nothing wrong and you are whipping up a conspiracy frenzy about her.

Don't you care what kind of world your child grows into? You are unnecessarily cruel.

BeRealOpalWasp · Yesterday 10:34

EagerPlayer · Yesterday 10:09

It’s the op who spoke about medical professionals.
Theres a big difference in the understanding of a 2 v a 4 year old.
and of course teach them to be wary -as I said!

I don't follow. I wouldn't have been comfortable with a stranger asking to hug my 4yo when he was 2 either (and neither would he).

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 10:36

BeRealOpalWasp · Yesterday 10:34

I don't follow. I wouldn't have been comfortable with a stranger asking to hug my 4yo when he was 2 either (and neither would he).

Edited

Then all you say is "stranger danger" and don't permit it. Easy.. Then talk to the lady

housinghun · Yesterday 10:44

@Anyahyacinth
Im cruel because I don't want a random person touching and hugging my child?

Nobody is actual to answering my question.

WOULD ANY OF YOU BE OK WITH A STRANGER COMING UP TO YOU IN THE STREET AND DOING THE FOLLOWING:?

Removing your sun hat to "see your face?"
Touching your hands
Hugging you?

I don't think any of you would, but a 2 year old has to be subjected to this?

Na fuck off.

OP posts:
Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 10:44

OP instead of whipping up community hate for an old lady...how about buying one of these books and talking to her about it..showing her or giving it to her and say ..you want to be friendly but also want to protect your child.

Community gossiping about someone being "weird" is just nasty

Old lady keeps approaching my toddler, making me feel uncomfortable
Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 10:48

housinghun · Yesterday 10:44

@Anyahyacinth
Im cruel because I don't want a random person touching and hugging my child?

Nobody is actual to answering my question.

WOULD ANY OF YOU BE OK WITH A STRANGER COMING UP TO YOU IN THE STREET AND DOING THE FOLLOWING:?

Removing your sun hat to "see your face?"
Touching your hands
Hugging you?

I don't think any of you would, but a 2 year old has to be subjected to this?

Na fuck off.

I've experienced all of those in a friendly way and wasn't harmed...some in a church cafe. Noone thought it was weird and I didn't have my protector with me (my lovely Mum)
You have easy solutions to this that avoid whipping up outrage and creating community harm to an innocent person...who in all likelihood is terribly lonely.

I do think you are being cruel in your judgements and inaction

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 10:49

Just to say vulnerability and safeguarding isn't just for the young in our society

SerafinasGoose · Yesterday 10:53

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 10:33

Oh now

This is how innocent people are harmed.

This lady has done nothing wrong and you are whipping up a conspiracy frenzy about her.

Don't you care what kind of world your child grows into? You are unnecessarily cruel.

This post is pure MN at its most batshit.

It's a parenting discussion forum. This is a thread about a parenting question. Concern as to harming the 'innocents' is hardly misplaced when there are few identifying details and both the OP and the subject of her post are entirely anonymous. Not exactly defamation, is it?

OP is concerned about specifics of one individual's behaviour. There is no 'conspiracy frenzy'. Could you be any more hyperbolic?

Contrarymary30 · Yesterday 11:04

Fgs ! I despair. When did all this precious behaviour start . Get a grip OP.

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 11:07

SerafinasGoose · Yesterday 10:53

This post is pure MN at its most batshit.

It's a parenting discussion forum. This is a thread about a parenting question. Concern as to harming the 'innocents' is hardly misplaced when there are few identifying details and both the OP and the subject of her post are entirely anonymous. Not exactly defamation, is it?

OP is concerned about specifics of one individual's behaviour. There is no 'conspiracy frenzy'. Could you be any more hyperbolic?

OP clearly states she has been discussing this woman in her community with other parents and pursuing her "weirdness" agenda

Anonymous??

Glockenspock · Yesterday 11:16

housinghun · 14/07/2026 22:58

I am genuinely aghast at some of the nasty replies on here.

I am happy for my son to say hello to people we see throughout our travels, he is very friendly.

BUT this lady's behaviour is very strange, she ran out of her house to see my son, that's very odd behaviour.

I don't owe her access to my son or any other stranger for that matter and I don't have to explain/ justify that to anyone either.

The fact other parents have commented that she also makes them feel uncomfortable with her behaviour is very telling.

Even if she is lonely or has dementia how am I responsible for that sorry?

I will get old one day but I can assure you I won't go round randomly touching/ frightening other peoples young children.

@WembleyArenaParking I am so sorry to read about your brother. That is awful. Thank you for sharing your story and for your support x

We must learn, then teach our children too that niceness does not equal goodness. Niceness is a decision, a strategy of social interaction; it is not a character trait. People seeking to control others almost always present the image of a nice person in the beginning.

Like rapport-building, charm and the deceptive smile, unsolicited niceness often has a discoverable motive.

~ Gavin de Becker, 'The Gift of Fear: Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence'

@housinghun here's the thing no one has touched on because they're all focused on how preposterous you are for thinking a kind, lonely lady is a paedophile - which of course you never said.

I wonder has anyone on this entire site ever had reiki done? Probably not. I'm sure it's far too woowoo for the level headed ladies of Mumsnet!

I've had it done. The first time by my lovely sister who'd only just passed her certification, and sadly I couldn't ascertain any effect.

The second time was a fiver deal at a local community centre where I went along just for larks. The woman allocated to me had her hands above my head, she was not touching me yet my head got so hot and my neck felt like it was going to snap from the extreme downward pressure radiating from her hands. I was more than a little freaked out.

Years later one of my (very level headed) clients told me that he'd once randomly, socially ended up in the company of an energy healer who'd gone on to heal him from the opposite end of a long hallway. Kind of as a party trick for the scoffers just to demonstrate how effective and powerful his energy healing was. Thing is, my client had had a very bad back ongoing for years which had occured due to a motorbike injury. And that random bloke healed it. Completely! The problem never returned. My client said he felt extreme heat at the time, like someone had placed a fire on full blast right behind him.

There's also some old footage of a qi gong master in China raising fire by the sheer focus of qi energy via his hands. It's not AI - I first saw it many years ago. The master was secretly filmed by a travelling American who'd heard about his skills and gone to seek him out and the master was livid to discover he'd been filmed.

I never went to have reiki again but I do have another experience of energy transference to relate vis an old lady who lived on my friend's street and used to sit on the steps outside her house. I can't remember how I first got chatting to her but after that I'd always pause. If my friend was with me, he wouldn't stop, just walk on. He told me he didn't trust her. His choice so I didn't press it but I did continue stopping alone for a quick chat whenever I passed.

So I thought my friend was just being moody as she seemed lovely, tho the conversation was often about some problem she was having. One of her complaints was about a friend who'd been so helpful doing things for her, then 'suddenly' they fell out and the woman abandoned her. It was clear to me from what was said about the situation that the friend had decided she was being used, but steps sitting woman's POV was that she herself was the victim of some huge misunderstanding.

Despite getting the ick from that, operating from the pov that 'no one is perfect' I still felt sorry for her so continued to pause in passing for a chat.

Then one time she was struggling to get some shopping up her steps so I actually went into her front garden to help instead of just chatting with her from the pavement. After I carried her stuff up, she touched my arm and I immediately felt cold running right through me and got a sharp headache. I'm not kidding or exaggerating, it was immediate and I was greatly disturbed by it.

When I reached my friend's home and told him, his response was "and that's why I stay away from her. I always got a bad vibe and you just confirmed it: energy vampire." Just as reiki lady et al had put energy out which generates heat and healing, others can take energy which generates cold and harm. And I'd always thought energy vampirism was purely emotional. Silly me! Though of course it can be that too.

Sure, the vast majority of people who touch us to express caring are completely benign and genuine. Unfortunately some (perhaps especially likely those who hang around waiting to catch passers by) are predators, rather than 'the lonely' or 'the damsels in distress' they present as. Unfortunately my gut does often fail me in telling the difference, but not everyone's does. I should have listened to my friend the first time.

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · Yesterday 11:18

Sartre · Yesterday 09:37

Those children were killed many years ago and not all by strangers, Holly and Jessica knew their killer. I actually had this discussion with my DH a few days ago. Children (thankfully) don’t seem to get abducted and murdered much anymore. I remember all of those cases well because I was a child when they happened and my Gran in particular was terrified something like that would happen to me so drove anxiety into me. It doesn’t happen anymore, I guess because children are inside on iPads.

It's always been extremely rare.

The VAST majority of child murders are perpetrated by someone in the home, usually a parent or step-parent.

When a "stranger murder" does happen, it's national news, dominates the front pages for weeks and continue to be brought into the public consciousness for decades afterwards, making it seem like it's around us all the time.

Statistically, strangers are the lowest risk to your child and those you love and trust are the highest risk. With the caveat that it's nearly always men.

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · Yesterday 11:24

Glockenspock · Yesterday 11:16

We must learn, then teach our children too that niceness does not equal goodness. Niceness is a decision, a strategy of social interaction; it is not a character trait. People seeking to control others almost always present the image of a nice person in the beginning.

Like rapport-building, charm and the deceptive smile, unsolicited niceness often has a discoverable motive.

~ Gavin de Becker, 'The Gift of Fear: Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence'

@housinghun here's the thing no one has touched on because they're all focused on how preposterous you are for thinking a kind, lonely lady is a paedophile - which of course you never said.

I wonder has anyone on this entire site ever had reiki done? Probably not. I'm sure it's far too woowoo for the level headed ladies of Mumsnet!

I've had it done. The first time by my lovely sister who'd only just passed her certification, and sadly I couldn't ascertain any effect.

The second time was a fiver deal at a local community centre where I went along just for larks. The woman allocated to me had her hands above my head, she was not touching me yet my head got so hot and my neck felt like it was going to snap from the extreme downward pressure radiating from her hands. I was more than a little freaked out.

Years later one of my (very level headed) clients told me that he'd once randomly, socially ended up in the company of an energy healer who'd gone on to heal him from the opposite end of a long hallway. Kind of as a party trick for the scoffers just to demonstrate how effective and powerful his energy healing was. Thing is, my client had had a very bad back ongoing for years which had occured due to a motorbike injury. And that random bloke healed it. Completely! The problem never returned. My client said he felt extreme heat at the time, like someone had placed a fire on full blast right behind him.

There's also some old footage of a qi gong master in China raising fire by the sheer focus of qi energy via his hands. It's not AI - I first saw it many years ago. The master was secretly filmed by a travelling American who'd heard about his skills and gone to seek him out and the master was livid to discover he'd been filmed.

I never went to have reiki again but I do have another experience of energy transference to relate vis an old lady who lived on my friend's street and used to sit on the steps outside her house. I can't remember how I first got chatting to her but after that I'd always pause. If my friend was with me, he wouldn't stop, just walk on. He told me he didn't trust her. His choice so I didn't press it but I did continue stopping alone for a quick chat whenever I passed.

So I thought my friend was just being moody as she seemed lovely, tho the conversation was often about some problem she was having. One of her complaints was about a friend who'd been so helpful doing things for her, then 'suddenly' they fell out and the woman abandoned her. It was clear to me from what was said about the situation that the friend had decided she was being used, but steps sitting woman's POV was that she herself was the victim of some huge misunderstanding.

Despite getting the ick from that, operating from the pov that 'no one is perfect' I still felt sorry for her so continued to pause in passing for a chat.

Then one time she was struggling to get some shopping up her steps so I actually went into her front garden to help instead of just chatting with her from the pavement. After I carried her stuff up, she touched my arm and I immediately felt cold running right through me and got a sharp headache. I'm not kidding or exaggerating, it was immediate and I was greatly disturbed by it.

When I reached my friend's home and told him, his response was "and that's why I stay away from her. I always got a bad vibe and you just confirmed it: energy vampire." Just as reiki lady et al had put energy out which generates heat and healing, others can take energy which generates cold and harm. And I'd always thought energy vampirism was purely emotional. Silly me! Though of course it can be that too.

Sure, the vast majority of people who touch us to express caring are completely benign and genuine. Unfortunately some (perhaps especially likely those who hang around waiting to catch passers by) are predators, rather than 'the lonely' or 'the damsels in distress' they present as. Unfortunately my gut does often fail me in telling the difference, but not everyone's does. I should have listened to my friend the first time.

This has to be the best response of all.

She's not a paedophile, a trafficking scout or a demented old bat, but an ENERGY VAMPIRE ready to cause terrible headaches with her touch of death.

😂

Glockenspock · Yesterday 11:29

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · Yesterday 11:24

This has to be the best response of all.

She's not a paedophile, a trafficking scout or a demented old bat, but an ENERGY VAMPIRE ready to cause terrible headaches with her touch of death.

😂

Cue the scoffing twats. Yea I never anticipated that one 🙄

MrsRonaldWeasley · Yesterday 11:29

Some of these replies are batshit crazy!

Nobody would want a stranger... elderly or otherwise... to walk up to them and randomly touch them/remove their hat "so i can see your face". So why is it ok for someone to do this to a child?? My kids are older teenagers now but I absolutely would not have allowed this when they were younger. Nobody had the right to touch my child! I protected their bodily autonomy until they were old enough to do this themselves. And yes, I also didn't force them to give hugs even when certainly family members demanded it of them!

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · Yesterday 11:36

Glockenspock · Yesterday 11:29

Cue the scoffing twats. Yea I never anticipated that one 🙄

You think you're harmless and spiritual. Actually, it's people like you that were responsible for the hundreds of women burned as witches because you think that the things you made up in your head are the truth.

KaleidoscopeSmile · Yesterday 11:38

Glockenspock · Yesterday 11:29

Cue the scoffing twats. Yea I never anticipated that one 🙄

It's what it deserved in this context

Glockenspock · Yesterday 11:40

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · Yesterday 11:36

You think you're harmless and spiritual. Actually, it's people like you that were responsible for the hundreds of women burned as witches because you think that the things you made up in your head are the truth.

Oh dear. A scoffer who thinks she's a mindreader. You're the only one making things up dear.

friedaklein · Yesterday 11:41

Well, this thread has distracted me from the heatwave.

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · Yesterday 11:51

Glockenspock · Yesterday 11:40

Oh dear. A scoffer who thinks she's a mindreader. You're the only one making things up dear.

No sweetie, mind-reading isn't real. I'm going by YOUR post where you accused a random woman of causing a headache by TOUCHING you and then went on to clarify that this is because she's an energy vampire. This is exactly the kind of rubbish which got women KILLED in previous centuries and yet here you are, still perpetrating it.