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AIBU to think King Charles comes across as a really crap dad?

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mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 16:00

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

I mean really, this is just pathetic. No one is believing that KC couldn’t find a spare bed for his son. AIBU to think that as the parent KC needs to get a grip and grow up instead of just fuelling the drama?

Headshot of Prince Harry in a blue suit, white shirt, and dark green tie looking off-camera in a room with several men in suits out of focus in the background,

Buckingham Palace says Prince Harry will not stay at palace

Royal sources say the Duke of Sussex had not responded to the offer of accommodation at a Royal residence by the deadline last week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

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milveycrohn · 06/07/2026 22:41

According to the papers, Harry initially turned down BP. He was given until a certain date to decide. He turned it down, then subsequently asked for it.
Then they said it was too late, etc

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 22:42

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:39

You just being silly now. They were really senior members of the royal family before they left. They literally rank above half of the actual royal family that is working. He's still the king's son and brother to the future king.

They chose to "step back as senior members of the Royal Family" as I recall.
Anyway, RAVEC monitor the situation. They know more than him, and anyone else on here!

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:42

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:40

It doesn't matter what he 'argues'.

RAVEC have their policies and are not dictated to by exiled princes. They have an excellent record in keeping people safe, so they must know what they're doing.

As I said, if Harry doesn't like it, he can by all means stay at home.

Well apparently does matter as it's all over the papers and there is like 17 pages to this thread.

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:45

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:39

You just being silly now. They were really senior members of the royal family before they left. They literally rank above half of the actual royal family that is working. He's still the king's son and brother to the future king.

Sorry, but you seem quite uninformed about this topic.

The court documents related to Harry's ridiculous RAVEC case described different 'tiers' of individuals. Tier One was those individuals automatically entitled to full protection regardless of threat assessments. Titles were redacted but we can assume it means people like the PM and the most senior royals.

Tier Two was those individuals who are granted protection on the basis of threat assessments, but this level of protection is subject to review. This was the category Harry belonged to prior to Mexit. We can see it in action with other royals such as Princess Anne or Prince Edward. They were the children and now siblings of Monarchs, but only get protection when on official duty, not as an automatic entitlement.

Since finding freedom, Harry is now in a different category whereby his security needs are monitored and provided he cooperate, all relevant security will be provided. Nobody can tell me just why this is inadequate.

ClearFruit · 06/07/2026 22:50

Irrelevant adults that the rest of us have to pay for. Fuck off please, and take your 'drama' with you.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/07/2026 22:54

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:30

Yes, this one time!

She didn't get protection because she's Taylor Swift. She got it because there was a credible threat.

Similarly Harry doesn't automatically get protection because he's Harry. He's simply not that important.

He is the King’s son. The deceased Queen’s grandson. Born into a Monarchy.
This cannot be denied as much as the haters would like him cut off from his past connections.

Luvnhugs · 06/07/2026 22:57

I feel it's not my place to comment on the Royal family simply because as a member of the public it's not possible to know the whole story behind the friction we hear about in the media.

I can comment in general regarding family life which is appropriate whether Prince or pauper. The one thing that's certain is the effect fighting & falling out has on children.

Thankfully in many cases children may not witness arguments or cold unemotional responses during family gatherings. This will go some way towards protecting them from undue upset. Sadly it will definitely raise it's head in adulthood when they realise the truth in what was happening in the place they trusted & believed they were being sheltered from future strife. Falling out is part & parcel of family life. Keeping it going to the detriment & upset of future generations is inexcusable.

Poppinpoppinpopcorn · 06/07/2026 22:58

EvelynBeatrice · 06/07/2026 22:39

The odd thing is the offer to put him up in Buckingham Palace, rather than in one of the homes in which the other royals reside and which therefore have staff and security that could be shared at minimal cost and inconvenience.

It speaks volumes.

Because they don't want to share their home with him. Maybe because the details will be the next book or interview.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/07/2026 23:00

Poppinpoppinpopcorn · 06/07/2026 22:58

Because they don't want to share their home with him. Maybe because the details will be the next book or interview.

Maybe Andrew will do a tell all. He’s definitely the spiteful type, Charles should pick his battles wisely. Maybe Harry is a good distraction to stop people questioning how much he knew about Andrew.

HelenaWilson · 06/07/2026 23:03

She lived on a different country for two years while Charles aged 1-3 lived in the UK. She went on a six month tour when Charles was 5 leaving him at home.

She didn't live continuously in Malta. She went backwards and forwards.

And the 1953-54 Commonwealth tour was exceptional. It was hugely important in that it was intended to acknowledge the contribution made by Commonwealth countries to the Second World War, and it had already been postponed twice. First the King had had to cancel a tour planned for 1949 because of his health. Then Princess Elizabeth was going in his place in 1952. She got as far as Kenya and had to come back because the King died.

It would have been totally impractical to take the children - in Australia alone they covered more than 12,000 miles by air, by train and by road, and not in modern air conditioned trains and cars and planes.

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 23:04

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/07/2026 23:00

Maybe Andrew will do a tell all. He’s definitely the spiteful type, Charles should pick his battles wisely. Maybe Harry is a good distraction to stop people questioning how much he knew about Andrew.

That makes zero sense. KC isn't controlling Harry and all his drama! Harry could live quietly and unobtrusively if he chose to.
He's putting himself out there. It's not manufactured by anyone else, for any nefarious purpose.
Harry wants to be in the headlines, and no-one is forcing him as part of some weird conspiracy.

Sereine · 06/07/2026 23:05

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/07/2026 22:54

He is the King’s son. The deceased Queen’s grandson. Born into a Monarchy.
This cannot be denied as much as the haters would like him cut off from his past connections.

It doesn't change the fact that he's not entitled to demand security at whatever level he thinks suits his personal levels of self-importance. He gets to have security that is sufficient to protect him from known threats assessed by experts in that field; because he put himself in danger by what he wrote about his army experiences, this is a considerably higher level of security than other junior royals.mm

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/07/2026 23:07

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 23:04

That makes zero sense. KC isn't controlling Harry and all his drama! Harry could live quietly and unobtrusively if he chose to.
He's putting himself out there. It's not manufactured by anyone else, for any nefarious purpose.
Harry wants to be in the headlines, and no-one is forcing him as part of some weird conspiracy.

Edited

I didn’t say he KC was controlling Harry.

He is entitled to visit the country he grew up in and visit his father. He using his own security now so not to worry.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/07/2026 23:09

Sereine · 06/07/2026 23:05

It doesn't change the fact that he's not entitled to demand security at whatever level he thinks suits his personal levels of self-importance. He gets to have security that is sufficient to protect him from known threats assessed by experts in that field; because he put himself in danger by what he wrote about his army experiences, this is a considerably higher level of security than other junior royals.mm

I agree he should supply his own security and he is. He is still an important person. I hope he has a lovely trip, so the children can meet in the tiny fishbowl of trusted people that they have.

jeffgoldblum · 06/07/2026 23:16

jeffgoldblum · 06/07/2026 19:03

I don’t understand why people aren’t getting it!
this has always been an open invitation to Harry , everytime he comes to the U.K. he’s offered bp as a place to stay , every single time he has refused and stayed in a hotel!
before his security tantrum he briefed the media with stories that bp wasn’t secure enough and he didn’t want to stay there , the palace kept reaching out to clarify if he was staying or not and finally said Friday was the deadline.
Harry sent a letter clarifying he wasn’t staying on Saturday !
then he suddenly briefs the press on Monday that he’s staying at bp without telling the palace!
obviously it’s far too late to organise things now particularly as he didn’t tell them he told the press!! 🤷‍♀️

Edited

Again for those who are either ignoring the facts purposely to drive their own narrative or for those who missed it the first two times!

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 23:17

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/07/2026 23:07

I didn’t say he KC was controlling Harry.

He is entitled to visit the country he grew up in and visit his father. He using his own security now so not to worry.

You referred to some sort of weird conspiracy! Anyway, of course he's entitled to visit the UK. He'll get appropriate taxpayer funded protection, and no doubt get lots of publicity and some new images to put out there. If not enough for a new book, some interviews or stories for People magazine.
Maybe he can also do some random door knocking like last time.

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 23:18

jeffgoldblum · 06/07/2026 23:16

Again for those who are either ignoring the facts purposely to drive their own narrative or for those who missed it the first two times!

Thanks, Jeff. I think it does bear repeating 👍

Kokonimater · 06/07/2026 23:19

Yes. But he had horrible parenting himself. He doesn’t know how to do it.
they’re all damaged people

BruFord · 06/07/2026 23:20

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/07/2026 23:09

I agree he should supply his own security and he is. He is still an important person. I hope he has a lovely trip, so the children can meet in the tiny fishbowl of trusted people that they have.

@EmeraldShamrock000 I agree that the situation is sad for the children, it would be nice for them to know their extended family. But until their parents demonstrate that they won't blab for money, it's unlikely to happen.

jeffgoldblum · 06/07/2026 23:21

BlackRowan · 06/07/2026 21:57

In 2021 or 2022?

Either or both!! He lied , he threatened to sue , the judge said nope ! He retracted!

jeffgoldblum · 06/07/2026 23:23

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:21

Don't quote me but I have seen it more than once Taylor Swift got police protection. www.politico.eu/article/taylor-swift-royal-uk-police-protection-eras-tour/

You forgotten Southport already??

jeffgoldblum · 06/07/2026 23:25

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:32

Well she got it because she is Taylor Swift and there was credible threat against her, because of who she is. However most of this thread reads that only the RF get protection.

Cancelled Vienna concert ( terrorist threat) again Southport!

IAmATorturedPoet · 06/07/2026 23:26

jeffgoldblum · 06/07/2026 23:23

You forgotten Southport already??

Exactly.

Or Manchester

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 23:28

IAmATorturedPoet · 06/07/2026 23:26

Exactly.

Or Manchester

Yes. Why do people think they know better than the security services?

jeffgoldblum · 06/07/2026 23:29

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/07/2026 22:54

He is the King’s son. The deceased Queen’s grandson. Born into a Monarchy.
This cannot be denied as much as the haters would like him cut off from his past connections.

Andrew was the queen’s son , the deceased kings grandson . Born into a monarchy. This cannot be denied as much as the haters would like him cut off from his past connections.