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AIBU to think King Charles comes across as a really crap dad?

809 replies

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 16:00

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

I mean really, this is just pathetic. No one is believing that KC couldn’t find a spare bed for his son. AIBU to think that as the parent KC needs to get a grip and grow up instead of just fuelling the drama?

Headshot of Prince Harry in a blue suit, white shirt, and dark green tie looking off-camera in a room with several men in suits out of focus in the background,

Buckingham Palace says Prince Harry will not stay at palace

Royal sources say the Duke of Sussex had not responded to the offer of accommodation at a Royal residence by the deadline last week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

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gishgalloping · 06/07/2026 22:17

Harry says in Spare that Charles sat with him every night to help him go to sleep and wrote him notes telling Harry that he loved him and was proud of him. He might not have been perfect but that’s not the behaviour of a crap dad.

I think Charles and Diana both tried to be good parents but both were flawed in their own ways due to their dysfunctional childhoods. Harry is a grown man who travels the world in a permanent state of martyrdom, constantly playing the victim in every situation. He’s created drama out of nothing by not responding to the palace’s offer, then refusing it and finally accepting it after the deadline. Then he starts briefing the media that he’s been “close to tears”. It’s not the behaviour of a man who genuinely wants a relationship with his family.

Lomonald · 06/07/2026 22:19

Gonners · 06/07/2026 20:31

The thing is, nobody lives in Buckingham Palace any more (except, presumably, the staff). The idiot boy must know this, so why would he expect to be invited there? It would be like me inviting someone to come and stay in my storage unit.

I wonder if his "team" thought it would be a grand gesture or something? As you said he knows nobody is living there.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/07/2026 22:19

Batcats · 06/07/2026 22:15

Am I reading that Charles is a dreadful, selfish father but somehow the Queen had a good name and energy and charm?

She lived on a different country for two years while Charles aged 1-3 lived in the UK. She went on a six month tour when Charles was 5 leaving him at home. He was brought up by nannies and only saw his mother for a few hours a day if that. She was by all accounts a far worse and distant and emotionally unavailable parent than Charles was. And I'm not disputing he was a dreadful, selfish father (I really dont know him). But the Queen is hardly an example of a selfless, loving mother.

You are right. I meant publicly, she made a terrible mess raising spoilt Andrew bc too.
At least this new generation won’t suffer the same coldness as they both have interested mothers, even if Meg’s is an attention addict.

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:19

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:09

His own security are not able to carry firearms here and aren't able to access intelligent information about who might be a threat to him. If he had protection in the UK he would get both.

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RAVEC keep Harry's profile under continual review, so if any threats were to come to their knowledge they would either liase with Harry's private security or provide additional protection themselves.

Sounds more than fair and reasonable. If it's not to Harry's liking well, he knows what he can do.

IFancyABaconSarnie · 06/07/2026 22:20

Prince Harry made his bed, now he can lie in it.

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aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:21

Gemilo · 06/07/2026 22:17

So the same as for any other celebrity or high profile person. He’s not a working royal anymore so not entitled to it. Tough for him but it is what it is.

Don't quote me but I have seen it more than once Taylor Swift got police protection. www.politico.eu/article/taylor-swift-royal-uk-police-protection-eras-tour/

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:22

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:21

Don't quote me but I have seen it more than once Taylor Swift got police protection. www.politico.eu/article/taylor-swift-royal-uk-police-protection-eras-tour/

Yes. She got it ONCE because there was a real and immediate threat.

Just as Harry would if a similar threat to him were to be identified.

HRTQueen · 06/07/2026 22:24

DaisyDooley · 06/07/2026 17:05

They were both sent to boarding school at aged 8. Diana was happy with this arrangement.
Sendimg them back to school after she died was eminently sensible. They needed the structure, routine and familiarity -and tobe kept busy.
As for the ‘parading them’ - from my understanding it seems that Philip thought William would regret not walking behind the coffin so offered to walk with him and Harry wanted to do it because William was. It can’t hve been a great experience but equally if they had been told they couldn’t no doubt Harry would be bleating on about that now.

Oh please no one in their right mind woudl think I know what’s best that’s sending a young child away when he has just lost a parent what they needed was protecting from the media that had just led to their mothers death but no they were not to keep the royals being royals is what was most important

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:25

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:19

RAVEC keep Harry's profile under continual review, so if any threats were to come to their knowledge they would either liase with Harry's private security or provide additional protection themselves.

Sounds more than fair and reasonable. If it's not to Harry's liking well, he knows what he can do.

I was actually replying to someone who said that Harry just didn't want to use his own security. I think it it's been sort of rewritten he doesn't want to use them when in fact he would or would pay them or would just like his security to have information

Dollymylove · 06/07/2026 22:27

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:21

Don't quote me but I have seen it more than once Taylor Swift got police protection. www.politico.eu/article/taylor-swift-royal-uk-police-protection-eras-tour/

Yes a one time thing because there was credible threat

Blinky21 · 06/07/2026 22:28

Shit husband too by all accounts. Most of the RF are awful people though, Harry did well to get rid

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:28

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:25

I was actually replying to someone who said that Harry just didn't want to use his own security. I think it it's been sort of rewritten he doesn't want to use them when in fact he would or would pay them or would just like his security to have information

How does he manage to spend the vast majority of his life in California, where his security has no access to intelligence?

Like I said, RAVEC keep his security needs under continual review. If there were a threat, appropriate action would be taken. The same is not true in California.

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:28

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:22

Yes. She got it ONCE because there was a real and immediate threat.

Just as Harry would if a similar threat to him were to be identified.

Again replying to someone who said it was like all high profile celebs. Not in TS case this time.

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:30

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:28

Again replying to someone who said it was like all high profile celebs. Not in TS case this time.

Yes, this one time!

She didn't get protection because she's Taylor Swift. She got it because there was a credible threat.

Similarly Harry doesn't automatically get protection because he's Harry. He's simply not that important.

HRTQueen · 06/07/2026 22:31

nowayin · 06/07/2026 17:17

What a bizarre accusation, William was already boarding at Eton when Diana was alive and Harry didn't start till a year after she died.

Are you saying William should have been taken out of the school he was really happy at and described as 'a haven' from the media circus?

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The press were always about they always will be about but they could have been better protected Harry has spoken about how miserable he was they needed real love (they have two sides of a family not one) and support around them not staff

and yes parading them about in public so we could all see them grieving was utterly shameful I look back at this with utter disbelief that this happened

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:32

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:30

Yes, this one time!

She didn't get protection because she's Taylor Swift. She got it because there was a credible threat.

Similarly Harry doesn't automatically get protection because he's Harry. He's simply not that important.

Well she got it because she is Taylor Swift and there was credible threat against her, because of who she is. However most of this thread reads that only the RF get protection.

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:33

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:32

Well she got it because she is Taylor Swift and there was credible threat against her, because of who she is. However most of this thread reads that only the RF get protection.

Only the most senior royals get automatic round the clock protection.

Harry is not in that group, and would not be even if he had remained as a working royal. His current arrangements are more than fair and generous.

Dollymylove · 06/07/2026 22:35

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:25

I was actually replying to someone who said that Harry just didn't want to use his own security. I think it it's been sort of rewritten he doesn't want to use them when in fact he would or would pay them or would just like his security to have information

His own security would not be permitted to bear arms in the UK

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:36

Dollymylove · 06/07/2026 22:35

His own security would not be permitted to bear arms in the UK

Exactly. He's arguing that if he can't have his security accessing information and firearms then he should get protection from the uk

Wheresthebeach · 06/07/2026 22:38

Attention seeking drama queen if ever there was one. Harry is awful. If only he’d stop leaking endlessly to the press he claims to hate.

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 22:38

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:36

Exactly. He's arguing that if he can't have his security accessing information and firearms then he should get protection from the uk

He gets taxpayer funded protection. He knows that. I don't know why he's playing these silly games.

EvelynBeatrice · 06/07/2026 22:39

The odd thing is the offer to put him up in Buckingham Palace, rather than in one of the homes in which the other royals reside and which therefore have staff and security that could be shared at minimal cost and inconvenience.

It speaks volumes.

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:39

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:33

Only the most senior royals get automatic round the clock protection.

Harry is not in that group, and would not be even if he had remained as a working royal. His current arrangements are more than fair and generous.

You just being silly now. They were really senior members of the royal family before they left. They literally rank above half of the actual royal family that is working. He's still the king's son and brother to the future king.

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 22:40

Wheresthebeach · 06/07/2026 22:38

Attention seeking drama queen if ever there was one. Harry is awful. If only he’d stop leaking endlessly to the press he claims to hate.

He loves it though! He seems incapable of living quietly or under the radar. Even the most senior royals go to restaurants, get the tube, go to shops etc. he could live a low key life if he chose to.

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 22:40

aCatCalledFawkes · 06/07/2026 22:36

Exactly. He's arguing that if he can't have his security accessing information and firearms then he should get protection from the uk

It doesn't matter what he 'argues'.

RAVEC have their policies and are not dictated to by exiled princes. They have an excellent record in keeping people safe, so they must know what they're doing.

As I said, if Harry doesn't like it, he can by all means stay at home.

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