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AIBU to think King Charles comes across as a really crap dad?

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mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 16:00

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

I mean really, this is just pathetic. No one is believing that KC couldn’t find a spare bed for his son. AIBU to think that as the parent KC needs to get a grip and grow up instead of just fuelling the drama?

Headshot of Prince Harry in a blue suit, white shirt, and dark green tie looking off-camera in a room with several men in suits out of focus in the background,

Buckingham Palace says Prince Harry will not stay at palace

Royal sources say the Duke of Sussex had not responded to the offer of accommodation at a Royal residence by the deadline last week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

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Ukisgaslit · 06/07/2026 21:08

Ponoka7 · 06/07/2026 20:14

Well Jimmy Savile was Charles chief advisor for 20 years, so what do we expect. Although Charles did find room, at Sandringham, for the pedophile Peter Ball, so there should be room somewhere, for his son. I wonder who Andrew notified that he'd invited Epstein to Buckingham Palace, seeing as so much prep is needed. Are we really buying this shit?

Two excellent points - esp re Andrew and Epstein coming and going.

So the head of church won’t meet his own son because his son missed a deadline? They need days and days to ‘arrange things’ and as pointed out above Epstein was trafficking women in . Epstein gave enough notice did he?

One of the other desperate excuses offered by the palace was worry that Harry would make a speech using Buckingham palace as a back drop .
Like Andrew actually did you mean? Lied to country through his teeth sitting slap bang in the middle of Buckingham palace .

Afraid Harry would try to ‘use the Buckingham palace backdrop? Like Elizabeth did when she used the entire weight of the institution to publicly call Virginia Guiffre a liar?

Charles and rest of them have really fumbled this , no matter what your opinion is of Harry , they’ve really showed themselves to be mean hypocritical cowards .
For this shit we pay half a billion a year and set them above the law?

Newname26 · 06/07/2026 21:16

NeverDropYourMooncup · 06/07/2026 19:57

I doubt I'm the only person who could say in complete honesty that I was definitely not hugged until I found the first boy prepared to show interest in me when I was 15.

Some people's parents don't/didn't believe in it 'You'd never see The Queen giving her children a hug, what on earth would anybody do that for, they must have something wrong with them; how dare you embarrass me at your grandfather's funeral, I was told you'd got a face on you at the back, how typical of you to try to make it all about you by looking sad' and so on.

Emotionally stunted, emotionally neglectful people exist.

What they do in public is a front, I don't for a second believe the Queen made Christmas pudding while clinging to her handbag.

But I do believe she was a completely different much more relaxed person than you are giving her credit for. Cherie Blair made comment about the Queen washing the dishes at Balmoral.
There was someone on Britanna made comment about Philip and her being reunited on the deck with a young Charles and Ann with hand shakes but once inside away from the cameras it was big hugs and kids bouncing all over them.

Triskellion75 · 06/07/2026 21:17

Ukisgaslit · 06/07/2026 21:08

Two excellent points - esp re Andrew and Epstein coming and going.

So the head of church won’t meet his own son because his son missed a deadline? They need days and days to ‘arrange things’ and as pointed out above Epstein was trafficking women in . Epstein gave enough notice did he?

One of the other desperate excuses offered by the palace was worry that Harry would make a speech using Buckingham palace as a back drop .
Like Andrew actually did you mean? Lied to country through his teeth sitting slap bang in the middle of Buckingham palace .

Afraid Harry would try to ‘use the Buckingham palace backdrop? Like Elizabeth did when she used the entire weight of the institution to publicly call Virginia Guiffre a liar?

Charles and rest of them have really fumbled this , no matter what your opinion is of Harry , they’ve really showed themselves to be mean hypocritical cowards .
For this shit we pay half a billion a year and set them above the law?

One more time for the cheap seats at the back!

Gymnopedie · 06/07/2026 21:18

This is Harry once again trying to prove that he is the most important member of the RF. He famously said that what Megan wants Megan gets (to QEII of all people) and he seems to feel the same about his own wants.

He didn't reply by the time he was asked to
When he did reply on Saturday - late - it was to say he wouldn't be staying at BP.
Then today he says he will be.

I can't help wondering if this isn't all a set up by Harry for the precise purpose of making people think badly of Charles.

Newname26 · 06/07/2026 21:20

MrsFaustus · 06/07/2026 19:48

I didn’t realise Clarence House didn’t have any spare rooms…..

KC doesn't trust him enough to have him in Clarence house

IonianNerveGrip · 06/07/2026 21:21

I don't think the average trafficked women had substantial security needs and a staff of her own that needed accommodating in Buckingham Palace. It seems unlikely that most or even any of the prostitutes Andrew entertained had published globally best selling books talking about how many Taliban they'd killed.

Not being a fan of the institution myself, I sympathise with the wider criticisms of various members of the royal family. It's just not immediately obvious how they address any of the logistical issues mentioned. There isn't a mechanism by which the queen having been a nonce apologist means staff are magically available as soon as her grandson wants them, several years after her death.

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 21:24

Gymnopedie · 06/07/2026 21:18

This is Harry once again trying to prove that he is the most important member of the RF. He famously said that what Megan wants Megan gets (to QEII of all people) and he seems to feel the same about his own wants.

He didn't reply by the time he was asked to
When he did reply on Saturday - late - it was to say he wouldn't be staying at BP.
Then today he says he will be.

I can't help wondering if this isn't all a set up by Harry for the precise purpose of making people think badly of Charles.

It wouldn't surprise me, Harry is deceitful enough. He's lied about his family to make headlines and to make money, so I really don't think there's any limits to his greed and mendacity.

Tableforjoan · 06/07/2026 21:26

We don’t know if other guests have had to give such notice but also previously the queen did live there at least some of the time so it was always fully staffed.

Now nobody lives there apart from maybe a couple of staff members.

Security would of been there because the queen lived there.

Idontcareboutthestateofmyhair · 06/07/2026 21:27

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 16:16

he is perpetuating the drama though

In what way?? Harry has perpetuated the drama since he got with the perpetual american drama 'queen' who dared call our dear departed Queenie racist. Cunts want their bread buttered both sides.

Batcats · 06/07/2026 21:35

IonianNerveGrip · 06/07/2026 21:21

I don't think the average trafficked women had substantial security needs and a staff of her own that needed accommodating in Buckingham Palace. It seems unlikely that most or even any of the prostitutes Andrew entertained had published globally best selling books talking about how many Taliban they'd killed.

Not being a fan of the institution myself, I sympathise with the wider criticisms of various members of the royal family. It's just not immediately obvious how they address any of the logistical issues mentioned. There isn't a mechanism by which the queen having been a nonce apologist means staff are magically available as soon as her grandson wants them, several years after her death.

I think Epstein and Andrew are obviously reprehensible individuals but I'm not sure why they are being brought into this (far less why Charles being head of state has to do with anything). As far as im aware, there's no evidence Epstein actually stayed the night there. From what I've read he only accepted a tour of the palace and had dinner there. Which is a far different scenario than the son of the King with his own staff and security team staying the night there.

None of us know what Charles feels about his son. But these relationships don't operate the ways ours do. It isn't the case of offering him a room or us popping into our parents the same way we would all do. It's a case of logistics and security and its been clearly explained that had Harry accepted in time, then staff and rotas could have been accommodated. They cant simply keep staff on standby 24/7 for when Harry decides he wants to visit.

I'm no royalist but I can't see how Charles or the royal family have come across bad.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 06/07/2026 21:36

So the head of church won’t meet his own son because his son missed a deadline

Has KC released a statement to say he won’t meet Harry?

AIBU to think King Charles comes across as a really crap dad?
FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 21:38

It's simple. All Harry had to do was confirm he was arriving by Friday. He couldn't manage that because he's addicted to drama.

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 21:38

BigWillyLittleTodger · 06/07/2026 21:36

So the head of church won’t meet his own son because his son missed a deadline

Has KC released a statement to say he won’t meet Harry?

No. Of course not.

DaisyDooley · 06/07/2026 21:40

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 06/07/2026 18:53

nope- if the cost of putting harry up at Buckingham palace was acceptable enough to offer, then it was acceptable enough to be spent even if he didn’t show. You could easily have a cut off for others staying with him, but his stay would be available. Then the palace could brief today “Harry is still available to stay at BP but unfortunately there’s not enough time to do security checks for his team travelling with him. They will have to make their own arrangements.”

Or not offer. You’re either prepared to spend the money and make the effort or you’re not.

There is no interpretation of this that doesn’t look like a fuck up from Charles/ his staff. By offering so publicly in the first place, they’ve created this mess. Harry has been over before and stayed in hotels, Charles chose to offer accommodation and to make that public, stupid decision not to follow through.

Would you like to talk me through this “offering so publically”?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 06/07/2026 21:41

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 21:38

No. Of course not.

I knew that, I was being facetious.

Tableforjoan · 06/07/2026 21:41

People really need to stop looking at this through their own family eyes.

This is the king. He has people who organise his life and his properties. One does not simply pop in. It’s not an extra bed being made up in dad’s house. It’s not a punishment.

The estate manager and security needed time to get staff, make up a suitable apartment and get security. The men in grey suits as they get called.

Charlie boy probably had zero to do with it at all. Other than being informed that an offer of residence had been made and that they would arrange it all if accepted.

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 21:41

I think you'll find that the only source of this drama has been Harry. Neither KC nor anyone else has publicly commented or expressed an opinion.

Gemilo · 06/07/2026 21:43

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 17:06

They are all entitled though.

the king thinks we should pay for HIS son’s security. No thanks!

Where’s your evidence for this? You are talking rubbish.

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 21:43

Gemilo · 06/07/2026 21:43

Where’s your evidence for this? You are talking rubbish.

Well he could pay himself and hasn’t so…

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BlackRowan · 06/07/2026 21:47

for all we know none of this happened at all and all was manufacturing by the media and the palace staff briefing against Harry with neither Harry nor royal family having any idea. Or by Will’s staff who always briefed against Harry.

maybe there are worse things coming to light about Andrew, or Wills have been caught cheating or whatever. I’m very suspicious whenever there is a massive outrage about Harry - and not suspicious about Harry but rather about the rest of the family or media or palace staff. Palace staff are the real snakes there

(also of course its complete BS the palace officials didn’t know about what Andrew was up to. Pleeeeease. Mummy may have been blind a bit but her office? No way)

BlackRowan · 06/07/2026 21:48

Tableforjoan · 06/07/2026 21:41

People really need to stop looking at this through their own family eyes.

This is the king. He has people who organise his life and his properties. One does not simply pop in. It’s not an extra bed being made up in dad’s house. It’s not a punishment.

The estate manager and security needed time to get staff, make up a suitable apartment and get security. The men in grey suits as they get called.

Charlie boy probably had zero to do with it at all. Other than being informed that an offer of residence had been made and that they would arrange it all if accepted.

Well but Epstein could simply pop in then?

Come on now

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 21:49

BlackRowan · 06/07/2026 21:47

for all we know none of this happened at all and all was manufacturing by the media and the palace staff briefing against Harry with neither Harry nor royal family having any idea. Or by Will’s staff who always briefed against Harry.

maybe there are worse things coming to light about Andrew, or Wills have been caught cheating or whatever. I’m very suspicious whenever there is a massive outrage about Harry - and not suspicious about Harry but rather about the rest of the family or media or palace staff. Palace staff are the real snakes there

(also of course its complete BS the palace officials didn’t know about what Andrew was up to. Pleeeeease. Mummy may have been blind a bit but her office? No way)

What?

It's Harry who has been frantically briefing the press for the past few weeks! Even leaking his 'itinerary' which is a rather odd thing for a person supposedly obsessed with security to do.

What on earth would Charles or William have to gain from this drama? Nothing other than a massive headache.

Tableforjoan · 06/07/2026 21:49

BlackRowan · 06/07/2026 21:48

Well but Epstein could simply pop in then?

Come on now

I assume Andrew took him as a guest rather than just rocking up and knocking on the door 🤷🏻‍♀️😅

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 21:51

BlackRowan · 06/07/2026 21:47

for all we know none of this happened at all and all was manufacturing by the media and the palace staff briefing against Harry with neither Harry nor royal family having any idea. Or by Will’s staff who always briefed against Harry.

maybe there are worse things coming to light about Andrew, or Wills have been caught cheating or whatever. I’m very suspicious whenever there is a massive outrage about Harry - and not suspicious about Harry but rather about the rest of the family or media or palace staff. Palace staff are the real snakes there

(also of course its complete BS the palace officials didn’t know about what Andrew was up to. Pleeeeease. Mummy may have been blind a bit but her office? No way)

Or it could be Martians come to Earth to disrupt our Earthling ways using the Lizard People to help and the King will ride Shergar into Hades.

Or, maybe, Harry just wanted to be a drama queen, said he wasn't staying then changed his mind.

DaisyDooley · 06/07/2026 21:51

Divebar2021 · 06/07/2026 19:37

This is the question you should be asking. Why did they offer Buckingham palace when it’s primarily offices and has been under renovation for years. Literally workmen crawling all over the place. Why not Kensington palace or Windsor? Thats what’s interesting for me. I think it sends a message and Harry knows what it means.

Other than that then the whole security / staff issue is obviously a headache for everyone. He will be travelling with his own US security ( some who were his former Met security ) but I don’t know how they integrate with his protection teams in the UK. He will want them to stay with him which may be the reason they don’t want him at other locations where other members of the Royal household are resident.

Where do you think he could stay at Kensington Palace?
It’s not a series of spare bedrooms. It’s not a giant house!
It's made up of mainly occupied apartments,
Perhaps Foisted on the Duke of Kent? Why didn’t he ask Eugenie for the use of Ivy Cottage?

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