To say the anti-football lot need to calm down a little?

[nowillpowernoproblem]

I didn’t stay up for the match because there was no way to make it work with my job, but if I could’ve I would’ve.

I can’t understand the actual visceral anger on here about it? It’s one night - kids won’t drop dead at school, workplaces won’t fail, but a lot of people will have just had a brilliant night.

I just don’t understand why some people can’t accept that others enjoy other things and it doesn’t need to be a big deal?

Yeah, how dare she try to give birth during an important football game. She should have crossed her legs for England.

Ffs 🤦‍♀️

(a fellow football fan)

And the pro football lot need to get a grip and learn what’s important in life!

It might be different in those few places left where your local team is still your local team with players paid no more than minimum wage like the rest of us, but all this shiny glossy high level football shit is just showing up your inability to think or live in the freedom people used to have just a few decades ago. It’s no more representative of the British nation is than Farage.

As for the game itself it’s just a bunch of men kicking a leather sack around!

Love that line 'men chasing a ball...'. Guess you don't like any sport @Dandelionas when it comes down to it, it's all just 'women hitting a ball over a net', 'men hitting a small ball into a hole', 'women running down a track' etc etc.
Sport brings many people a lot of joy, me included.

It's great that we are doing well and people like watching it, but there might be less vitriol if people didn't seem to have lost all perspective over a fairly regularly occuring sporting event at a relatively early stage in the contest. I could have understood it if it was the semis or the final, but at this stage it really isn't this massive historic never to be repeated moment.

I agree. If it was the semi-final or something, I could understand all the fuss.

And it's not like it's a once in a lifetime event.

The British disdain happiness that they don't approve of, personally. They don't like smiling, laughter, sounds, celebrations, optimism etc unless it's by them and about them. It's a national past time to celebrate being miserable and commiserate with one another about how superior this makes them to other countries. Are you new here?

I don’t like the tribalism or male violence associated with any big bunch of men. It’s not improving in this country. Nor do I like being told what I should be enjoying.

Other countries do not force (male) football down everybody’s throats like this, and god I wish I was in one of those every time there is a big tournament.

This - give me strength!

Judging by the tone of his/her posts, the OP is tired and ratty and needs a long nap 🤣

My goodness @nowillpowernoproblem , you're very cranky for someone who didn't stay up to watch the match. And rude.

They don’t have to be ‘sat around watching the football’ for it to be enough of a distraction to affect care. Are you always so sneeringly dismissive of other peoples’ life experiences ?

You must be scintillating company at parties, doll...

Doll ?????

I was with you until this ignorant comment.

Perhaps your goady comments come from a place of bitter jealousy that you missed the game?

How odd of you to start a thread complaining that people are not united then. I don't believe a football tournament, whatever the outcome, will make people feel better about the state of the country.

I was with you till you posted this drivel.

If it were just a football match, that would be fine. I'd applaud the celebration and joy in it. Sadly, football in this country isn't just a game. Somebody compared it to people liking or not liking Christmas but I think this is a false equivalence.

Football, as mentioned by PPs, contributes significantly to domestic violence rates. It causes tribalism which results in violence, antisocial behaviours and a public bill to be paid in terms of policing, medical care and street cleaning. The tribalism also encourages unsportsmanlike behaviours, even as far as racism and abuse. Grown men en masse scream slurs across a pitch because their team has the temerity to lose a game. I've seen "fans" rip up tickets and leave before the end of a game because their team is losing (only to go on and win). That's before you even get to the corruption, false idols and the management of the sport.

Are the above behaviours everybody? No of course not. Football is enjoyed appropriately by countless people. What you're forgetting is that non football fans aren't impacted by the positives of the game in the way that they are negatively impacted by the significant impacts of the things I describe above.

And you'd be well advised to stop talking about teaching when you know nothing about it. Your doubling down suggests trolling tbh. We teach to the end of term and that's some way off yet. The only film watching in my classes is on the very last day of term and it's a film related to what we've been studying e.g. Y9 will watch Romeo and Juliet. All other lessons are normal.

Neither is football.

'Other countries do not force (male) football down everybody’s throats like this, and god I wish I was in one of those every time there is a big tournament'

They absolutely do. It's a big deal globally! Some are more respectful. Unlike the Mexicans with their fireworks and trumpets to disturb thr players, the boos, the nastiness. It is just great that they got their arses handed to them.

Or perhaps OP is a school kid- either tired and cranky in class having stayed up to watch the football, or just cranky, having been made to go to bed.

The OP is giving off the sort of really unpleasant vibes that people who don’t like football associate with the mouthiest people who do like football. Ignorance, accusations of lying, demeaning comments, etc all acceptable when you are watching ‘the national sport.’ Only, for a large number of the population (and I’m talking millions of people here) it’s just another sport going on in the background. Yes, it’s lovely to have some sport to watch when the sun is out and the days are long. I’m sure at some point the OP will be along to accuse me of not really liking sport. But that is not true. I’ll be off to watch the cricket later on this month, and earlier this year I sat for 4 days thrilled by the absolutely mastery of their sport on show by the riders at Badminton. (I think that the unfortunate clash of the football World Cup with her historic 3rd consecutive win only 10 weeks after giving birth, leading from the front the whole way, will sadly rob Ros Canter of the Sports Personality of the Year.)

So no, I don’t think the anti football brigade need to calm down because I don’t think they ever really got het up like the pro football brigade. Some of the pro football brigade are just looking for a fight where there is none, and it is perhaps them, including the OP, who need to calm down.

I totally get this as a football lover, I have colleagues.I seem to want to talk about diet and clothes constantly. They tell me most days what they had for dinner the night before, which generally, I already know, because they've already told me what they were going to make the day before.
I try and shut them down, but fuck me. Do they go on about food a lot. I literally don't give a fuck. Maybe I should start talking to them about football to see how they like it!

The football lot need to calm tf down way more.

This. Well said.

See my earlier post about 'just a bunch of men kicking a ball around'...
Really don't understand this argument.

There is definitely still learning going on in some schools, find it weird that lots of people are saying their isn't. In our household we got up at 5:30am and watched it on iPlayer. It seems like a good compromise, the youngest got 8+ hours of sleep and we both watched the match unaware of the final outcomes It was definitely a nail biter. Bring on Saturday.