To say the anti-football lot need to calm down a little?

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I didn’t stay up for the match because there was no way to make it work with my job, but if I could’ve I would’ve.

I can’t understand the actual visceral anger on here about it? It’s one night - kids won’t drop dead at school, workplaces won’t fail, but a lot of people will have just had a brilliant night.

I just don’t understand why some people can’t accept that others enjoy other things and it doesn’t need to be a big deal?

My daughter is now in her 50s but I still remember being left alone at a crucial stage in her birth as the nurses all disappeared to watch Red rum win the grand national, so it's not just football!

They haven’t won anything. This was the last 16. Let’s have a little perspective.

Oh dear. Like I say, negative and clearly no idea about the game.

Angela Rayner on LBC just now made a comment that "we may all be nursing sore eyes or sore heads after last night..."

No, all of us aren't. Not even the majority of us are. I think that's what gets up a lot of people's noses - the assumption that everyone either is, or should be, glued to the football over any other sport or activity.

If you enjoy it, good for you. Crack on. But allow those of us to moan when our jobs don't allow us to finish early (I know some that did on Wednesday) or our jobs/schools don't change start times for the other sports or other events we prefer. Because football.

How people can say sports boring is beyond me.. I think people are odd who say this. It's unscripted.That game last night had everything. You couldn't tell which way it was going to go.
Perhaps some more people will get into it now.
If they don't never mind, but to say boring. Wow.

Because it's artificial. People are coming together to play a competitive game which has its own rules which not everyone else necessarily understands, and not everyone actually cares who wins..

Do you watch every sports match or other competitive activity that comes your way? You could make very similar comments about local matches, tennis, netball, water polo, bowls, curling, chess, you name it. Would you be equally fascinated by all of those?

Absolutely everything in life is better without Twitter in the background. I am an immeasurably happier human since I stopped using it about 2 years ago.

I didn't stay up and watch the football. I intended to, but the delay was too much for my tired eyes. I'm going to watch it tonight though and I agree wholeheartedly with the OP.

The world won't end if kids and adults are tired today because they shared a positive experience overnight. We really don't share enough positive experiences as a nation right now. I am NOT a football fan, I hate the culture around it - but I hope everyone that stayed awake and saw it unfold is buzzing today, and I hope the dopamine fills your heart for as long as possible, before everything is FUCKING MISERABLE again.

No one is shitting on England. People are pissed off by their lives being impacted by something they have little to no interest in. I would usually want England to do well because it makes other people happy, but after this morning, I am praying they get kicked out before their next stupid o'clock in the morning match.

I'm not a teacher, FWIW, but I am passing my shitty mood onto everyone because I'm pissed off and exhausted.

The thing I'm pissed off most about is that I'm usually a very easy-going, live-and-let-live type person. If my neighbours had said to me, "We're watching the match at home and will have mates around. We'll try to be quiet, but there might be some screaming." I would have done what they did and gone to bed early in case I got woken up at 2 am.

But they didn't. So I didn't. And now I have had around an hour's sleep, and I'm feeling pretty shitty towards anyone who as much as thinks about football in my presence.

tbh, I think it's nuts to care so much about any game you're not actually playing in, I honestly don't get it. BUT. I do understand that lots of people care a great deal. My brother in law is one. He is football crazy. It is hugely important to him. I don't understand why, but I understand that it is. iyswim.

The world cup is what? Once every 4 years? So a few days every 4 years? Let people enjoy it. If they want a day off it's not going to solve any of the world's problems but neither is it the end of the world for some kids to be knackered for a day or two.

What does bother me though is the violence that goes with it. It is fact not opinion that violence increases, especially domestic violence, and that is a big problem. Maybe football matches should be screened in coffee shops rather than pubs.

Beating Mexico at the aztecs, altitude, heat, the fact they’d only lost 2 games in 89 competitive games, is good reason for the “dramatical nonsense” TBH.

I doubt the poster you refer to let her son watch it, she asked AIBU then flounced when the majority said she was. She wanted everyone to agree with her, they didn’t.

Not angry but am tired of the whole thing, was hoping England would get knocked out last night so it would be over (at least for England) and people would largely shut up about it!

Because we don’t do this for other world cups, like rugby, cricket or the ladies world cups? It’s annoying

If you're English, that's a terrible attitude.

I haven't seen any examples of any 'anti footballers' not being calm? Have you?

I just cant get excited about millionaires kicking a ball around, doesn't mean I parade the streets with anger.

Your post about teachers in very unkind (no I'm not one).

Live theatre? That's just a bunch of people on a stage saying words

I don't get patriotism.

I had no input into where I was born, it's pure chance.

What's to be proud about?

As I pointed out on another tiresome thread about the same subject, those of us in the southern hemisphere have been doing this forever, and somehow we manage to function - and without all the fuss.

Yet more people in this country are prepared to make the effort to get off their behinds to support a bunch of people on a stage saying words than make the same effort to go and watch people kicking a ball around on a field (if you want to bring both of them down to basics; I hadn't diminished the talent of players but you do you).

That may be boring to you. Football may be boring to someone else. Yet football is the one thing that gets special allowances.

I can't relate to this thinking so best not to say anymore.

Why is it a terrible attitude?

I was thrilled England got through and would have enjoyed watching the game but can you not understand that some people just want to go back to normality and to not have it dominate every waking thought and every conversation?

I'm English and I'm pleased that the England team are (for now) doing well, but why is it mandatory that you have to be completely all out for the England team just because of the accident of where you're born? I am English, I'm neither overwhelmingly proud nor ashamed of being English, it's just a circumstance of my life. Of course if the team does well it's a positive and I will cheer them on but if they lose I won't give it much further thought. I don't feel any special affinity with these footballers because they happen to have been born on the same patch of soil as me: why should I? I've never met them. They owe me nothing and vice versa.

This is the sort of thing which pisses people off about it. We end up feeling really hemmed in by other people's nationalism and a sense of duty and responsibility which we just don't share. We're not fighting a war, just having a game. An important game but still a game.

I don't want to have to give it that much headspace, it just isn't as important to me as it is to you. Can't some of you just let us have this?

I was just reducing it to the basics like others have done with the football

In all honestly, if you enjoy theatre, music, whatever, go enjoy it. Praise it publicly, talk about what your passion is. Take joy and delight from it.

I just don't understand why some people want to sneer

We are retired so obviously easy for us but if still working we would have stayed up and gone to work. No one would die from a mistake in our work settings though.

It is tribalism but aren’t many organisations? Have you met WI members?

It was a match that will always be remembered regardless of how much further England go forward. DH as a child was at the match where the Scottish fans invaded the pitch in the 70’s and pulled the goalposts down. It is a known match if you are really in to football.

There are some issues with violence around football so that is a valid point.

i love cricket and football, very different vibe at matches but some on MN don’t like football because they deem it low brow, common and a bit too working class.

Hoping your country get knocked out of a tournament is not a healthy attitude. Sorry but anybody holding those views really should be nowhere near teaching/coaching/aspirational roles. Nobody has to like the game or the tournament, of course not, but the dramatics about the world cup are ridiculous.

Some folk sneer, I didn't.

What I don't understand - and I don't think it's sneering - is why so much special consideration is given to this over everything else? If it was the World Cup final which we've not reached since Noah was a boy, I could probably understand it. But this was last 16 and pub licensing hours were especially changed just for this; some schools and workplaces have started later. That's the bit that a lot of us struggle with, I think, that those special treatments aren't allowed for other events that other people can be equally passionate about.

Unless there is some sort of health issue or you’re a very young child, people can cope with one night of less sleep. It’s one night.

People like something to be dramatic and angry over.