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AIBU to think my parents are ignorant & somewhat racist ???

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ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:02

DH and I are both mid 40s. We moved to Dubai nearly 18 years ago for jobs, what was meant to be temporary became permanent, and we’ve built our lives here. We are still British, still expats, but very settled.

Our children were both born in Singapore as we were there for work for a while too. They’re British citizens but have never lived in the UK. We visit 6 or so times a fear. Frequent enough for them to somewhat know England or at least know where DH and I are from/grew up. They’ve done all the sightseeing, London eye, Scotland, Wales, Cotswolds, Cornwall etc they’ve been UK

They attend an international school here which is academically strong and well regarded. It’s also affiliated in various ways with UK private schools and a lot of the teaching staff are British. It follows a fairly rigorous curriculum, and many students go on to UK universities.

But the reality of the school is that it’s very international, as you’d expect. Their friendship group includes children from England, Scotland, America, Barbados, Bermuda, South Africa, Australia, India and many other countries. That’s just their normal.

We recently sent my parents a school class photos because they asked for it. My parents’ reaction really shocked us. They focused entirely on the fact it “doesn’t look English” and that there are “so many non-English children” in the class. My mum said she found it upsetting and that it made her feel sad for my sons.

We’ve also had similar reactions to other things. We sent a photo from my eldest son’s birthday recently around 20 children at a party here. Again, instead of being happy, the comments were about how it must be “just rich international kids” and that this isn’t a normal upbringing, and that we should be coming back to England.

The same narrative keeps coming up: that the children are “barely English anymore”, don’t sound English, don’t understand England properly, and that we’re somehow denying them a “proper British childhood”.
Even the accents get mentioned, they don’t have traditional English accents, more of an ‘international school’ accent despite DH and I having very southern England accents , which apparently is another concern.

What I struggle with is that from our perspective, none of this is negative.
My children are happy, confident, well educated, and very comfortable around people from all backgrounds. They don’t really think in terms of nationality in the way I grew up doing. They just see friends.

They are very well travelled, have lived this international lifestyle all their lives, and are completely at ease in multicultural environments. I actually see that as a strength rather than something missing.

But my parents seem to view it as a loss, like they’ve ended up with grandchildren who are somehow less “British” than they expected, and that this needs correcting by moving back.

They’re also very keen for us to return to the UK permanently, offering to buy us a house in cobham, but we simply don’t want to. I grew up in cobham, I don’t want to live there now. We have a good life here, we feel safe, the children are thriving, and we’re not ready to leave.

I grew up in Surrey and part of me does remember how small and insular things could feel, and I don’t think I want to go back to that for my children.

I feel guilty because I understand they miss us and want us closer, especially as they get older. But I also feel frustrated that everything about our children’s lives here is being framed as “wrong” or “less British”.

First it was ‘when are you two going to have children’ now I don’t think they love our children. They’re not willing to accept them. They’re still young, we can move back to the England and they’ll get an English accent but we don’t want to and also why does it matter. There’s more things my parents have said. Another example that really pissed me off was along the lives of what if one of the boys bring home a girl that isn’t English. Why does it matter??? It’s a disgusting way to view the world.

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Yogafiend · 28/06/2026 01:07

@SixtySomething your experience is that people that talk about multiculturalism in a positive light are mainly white people? I’m curious not sarcastically asking or anything like that. Because that is not my experience at all… I would have said maybe it’s a generational thing as I used by your user name that you are in your 60s but you speak that your children have had problems due to the multicultural nature of their relationships but that’s not my experience at all.

SixtySomething · 28/06/2026 01:10

Yogafiend · 28/06/2026 01:07

@SixtySomething your experience is that people that talk about multiculturalism in a positive light are mainly white people? I’m curious not sarcastically asking or anything like that. Because that is not my experience at all… I would have said maybe it’s a generational thing as I used by your user name that you are in your 60s but you speak that your children have had problems due to the multicultural nature of their relationships but that’s not my experience at all.

I mean that many white people talk about multiculturalism as a good thing, but don’t actually live a life of multiculturalism eg by having friends from other races.
Regarding relationship difficulties, I was more thinking of the difficulties my parents faced but also see them reflected in a smaller but real way in my children’s relationships.

Yogafiend · 28/06/2026 01:23

SixtySomething · 28/06/2026 01:10

I mean that many white people talk about multiculturalism as a good thing, but don’t actually live a life of multiculturalism eg by having friends from other races.
Regarding relationship difficulties, I was more thinking of the difficulties my parents faced but also see them reflected in a smaller but real way in my children’s relationships.

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@SixtySomething fair enough. I have a completely different experience. I married into a white British family and yes sometimes culturally there were differences but never found them problematic and to my knowledge neither did them. I love my in laws and have adopted some English customs and some of my own culture and we blend quite well. My brother is married to a woman from the Philippines and again she “blended” in very well with our family. Happy to try different customs such as how they got married (religiously). Differences yes but none of them problematic. The kids all get on well and we see no issues. Considering that my family, my brothers family, my DH family and my parents all live in different countries now and have different experiences of life.

edited to add: regarding friends I have a wide variety of friends that I consider close such as Indian, Phakistan, Philippines, the US and South Africa.

MeTooOverHere · 28/06/2026 01:36

I'm 100% British origin. Mostly Irish but some English and Scottish (5-8 generations ago).

Lily white skin, I burn if someone strikes a match near me. No English accent, no English education. Never been to the UK at all.

So I would pass as English in a photo despite being not English at all.

oceancolourscene · 28/06/2026 01:46

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VirtueName · 28/06/2026 01:50

Your parents are just mourning the fact that they have grandchildren who don’t share their culture, and are growing up at a distance. I have an American friend married to a Frenchman who’s raised their children in Paris and, despite lots of Skyping and visiting, her parents have never not been heartbroken that their only grandchildren are so far away and not American. A Brazilian friend of mine is struggling with her daughter having just had her first child with an Irishman, having settled in Ireland. Another friend would move to Germany where her only grandchild is growing up, but is trapped by caring for elderly parents in her home country. I don’t think this is at all unusual, or ‘racist’, just reminder to them that their grandchildren are a long way away in a soulless superficially Western-friendly dictatorship.

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Exactly my point. In a photo they would ID me as British but I'm not. Not at all.

BusterGonad · 28/06/2026 02:15

There are a lot of draw backs to growing up in an expat life, and for those that don't understand that, they've obviously never lived that life. It's not all fun and games and one long holiday.

Yogafiend · 28/06/2026 02:22

BusterGonad · 28/06/2026 02:15

There are a lot of draw backs to growing up in an expat life, and for those that don't understand that, they've obviously never lived that life. It's not all fun and games and one long holiday.

And a lot of positives too. There are always pros and cons to anything. It doesn’t suit everyone just like being born and bread in the same place doesn’t suit everyone. It’s about what works for people in my opinion.

Friendlygingercat · 28/06/2026 02:57

Your parents were born into a white country and probably wanted it to remain that way. They are probably dismayed at how the influx of large ethnic groups has changed the culture and society in Britain. There was never any public consultation or referendum asking the British people if they wanted a multi cultural society. So these groups were invited or allowed into this country and given equal rights without public mandate. Your parents are probably feeling betrayed and resentful. They are part of a generation which worked and paid taxes for many years to build the infrastructure of this country. They are as much entitled to their view as you are to yours.

rainingsnoring · 28/06/2026 03:11

ForCyanShaker · 28/06/2026 00:17

Why can’t I come to the uk. I am absolutely fine if they change the rules of who is entitled to the state pension. The state pension is not a lot of money I will not be stealing from people who are ordinarily residents. I wouldn’t even argue if they took the pension from me. The reason we contribute NI wise and other tax purposes if because when we first moved we thought it was only for 2 years. Our work contracts were fixed term. DH and I bought a house in England and kept up with the tax there and just kept up with NI contributions too.

As for my children they might want to study in America it’s not 100% they’ll study in England. I do not make the rules if the rules change that’s fine. They might change. We are fine with the changes we aren’t fussed. I do however thing we have a right to come back to England where we were born, we don’t have to have any of the benefits but we are citizens, we do not have citizenship anywhere else.

I am sorry if it doesn’t come out well that I’d like to come back to England one day but it’s not to steal any of the tax payers money. Uk has every right to change the rules if they wanted to they could tax on citizenship nor residency and most would oblige especially when they only have British citizenship ie a lot of people we know.

I agree that you should be able to come back to the UK.
What I object to is that you seem to have made a plan to return at the exact times when you can take advantage of your British citizenship, having avoided paying hundreds of thousands, possibly millions into the UK economy. That is very selfish and entitled. If I have misundestood your posts, I apologise, but that is how it comes across.
I do agree with you that your parents sound racist and are living in a little, Cobham bubble.

rainingsnoring · 28/06/2026 03:12

Friendlygingercat · 28/06/2026 02:57

Your parents were born into a white country and probably wanted it to remain that way. They are probably dismayed at how the influx of large ethnic groups has changed the culture and society in Britain. There was never any public consultation or referendum asking the British people if they wanted a multi cultural society. So these groups were invited or allowed into this country and given equal rights without public mandate. Your parents are probably feeling betrayed and resentful. They are part of a generation which worked and paid taxes for many years to build the infrastructure of this country. They are as much entitled to their view as you are to yours.

You have just made all that up! It sounds as if you are projecting your own opinions.

rainingsnoring · 28/06/2026 03:13

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One of the reasons people settle in Dubai is to avoid paying tax. I think everyone knows that.

DimwittedSkater · 28/06/2026 03:41

I think your parents are just deeply disappointed not to have you and your family somewhat near them, OP.

DimwittedSkater · 28/06/2026 04:29

AsiaFlyer · 27/06/2026 20:44

They want their grandchildren to have strong roots in their own culture and people.

Maybe that is racist and vile, but it’s also pretty common in lots of cultures.

By this standard, I’d say at least half the Chinese parents I know (in China) are racist and vile too. I know India a bit less well but my impression living there was that it’s higher still there.

That's a really harsh view. People are not racist and vile to somewhat yearn for their families to live and be brought up in their own culture. In fact, it's extremely human. We are tribal and territorial by nature. These grandparents' subconscious reptilian brains are saying "Bring our family back from the unknown to where they belong!"

But most people would have the sense to step back and let their adult kids live their lives, even if they wish their grandchildren lived nearer and were part of their own culture. This probably isn't how they ever imagined having grandchildren; they probably imagined that they would be seeing them more and sharing stories and history etc. and that their grandchildren would naturally be from the same culture as them. I don't blame them for their feelings about the loss of a shared cultural identity with the next generation.

But they do need to put a sock in it.

Atleastitsnotsunstroke · 28/06/2026 04:43

They may not feel as connected to Britain as if they'd always lived here and may not connect with everyone they meet - all the more important to maintain friendships they make.

If you did come back to UK there's no reason you'd have to go to Cobham, you could go anywhere.

I wouldn't bank on anything in future eg. assuming home fees over international fees. Political stability is unlikely to be achieved unless the richer pay more, that's just a fact now.

DimwittedSkater · 28/06/2026 04:43

rainingsnoring · 28/06/2026 00:04

You may as well be honest @ForCyanShaker. Of course you moved partially to avoid tax. You have, no doubt, avoided paying a huge, huge amount in UK tax.
You then plan to return before your children hit Uni age so that they can claim lower fees. Why not just stay in Dubai and pay international fees of 30/40k or whatever? Obviously, having avoided paying UK tax for decades, you can afford to pay the 10k/year or whatever it is by then. You also then plan to return in retirement to take advantage of the rules again.
As the pp said, you are not coming across well.

In order to pay UK home fees at uni, you have to have lived in the UK for a full three years immediately before the course starts. So it's hard to take advantage of paying home fees without first paying at least three years of UK tax. And the three years must not have been solely so that they could get home fees. Although how they'd prove that, I have no idea.

declutteredliving · 28/06/2026 05:20

rainingsnoring · 27/06/2026 23:54

Yes, your parents sound racist and arrogant.

However, this post makes it sound as if you have left the UK for 20+ years to avoid paying ££££ in tax but then plan to come back 'for our children mainly', which I translate as 'to take advantage of British resident fees for University and save yourselves even more £££' (and then leave again). What exactly to you mean by you plan to come back 'for our children mainly'? If you want to be an immigrant to Dubai, fair enough, but you shouldn't then come back briefly, specifically to have your DC's Uni costs subsidised and to be subsidised by the UK tax payer in retirment. That is entirely wrong.
Perhaps I have misunderstood..

And the voluntary NI contributions are to accumulate the 35 years required in order to receive full state pension when retired!

These contributions are not out of the goodness of their hearts, its to benefit them later in life.

bettyboo9 · 28/06/2026 05:26

Can’t change others perceptions. You are doing a grand job and that’s all you need to focus on

BusterGonad · 28/06/2026 05:30

Yogafiend · 28/06/2026 02:22

And a lot of positives too. There are always pros and cons to anything. It doesn’t suit everyone just like being born and bread in the same place doesn’t suit everyone. It’s about what works for people in my opinion.

Well, yes, I know. I live it everyday.

TorroFerney · 28/06/2026 05:31

Magnificentkitteh · 27/06/2026 20:31

Well, quite a limited frame of reference in terms of class diversity etc. Not feeling especially rooted, potentially being afraid of stepping out of the ex pat bubble, which is kind of a weird space between living abroad and actually living abroad. To the DC speak the local language, for example?

I’d love to have a limited reference in terms of class diversity!

MrsVBS · 28/06/2026 05:45

It sounds like your children have a great life and education. If you love your life there tell your parents and that you have no intention of coming back. Also point out to them they are talking about your children’s friends and if they can’t be nice/not racist, you will end the call.

OneUniqueSquid · 28/06/2026 06:11

I think if you were Ugandan/Spanish/Polish any other nationality than English you wouldn't see this as racist at all.

Most people think maintaining a cultural identity is important and a shame to lose it.

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