AIBU to think neighbours should not be naked in their garden?

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For context: Our house is on a new build estate and the houses are pretty close together. It’s fairly easy to see into neighbours gardens because the trees etc are not well established yet.

AIBU to say my neighbours shouldn’t be naked in their garden. They are often out in the garden totally naked taking photos of themselves. They have parties quite often and it’s not uncommon for them and friends to be out in the garden naked / using the hot tub etc.

Am I being a killjoy ? Seems excessive to me.

What???

https://www.cloverspa.co.uk/a-history-of-naturism-in-britain/

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/aug/07/bare-with-us-why-naturism-in-britain-is-booming

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Some people enjoy it, and there are places for them to be where it is ok to do it.

It's not acceptable generally in society, as you well know - you won't see naked people browsing the aisles of Tesco in Croydon or driving the 7.05 from Edinburgh to Kings Cross.

It's not something we are culturally ok with in the UK.

And despite all the cool girl posturing, it's not something you ever usually see in back gardens in the UK, so no surprise OP was taken aback.

I don't argue with that but wtf has it got to do with your earlier post about being born without clothes and tribes? Bonkers.

This comment made me really lol. It was Akin to screaming they are SEX people 😂

they are legally allowed to be naked in their own garden they are also legally allowed to be swingers, they are also legally allowed to have their nakey mates round for naturist parties, which I suspect that’s what this is.

If their garden is overlooked this is not ok.

Personally I don’t think being naked in a mixed group of friends is ok either but I guess that’s up to them in their garden.

Do you have children? I’d not be happy about them looking out the window and thinking this is normal behaviour.

I agree, but it’s not up to you and me, British law says this is perfectly legal snd acceptable, it is only illegal if it is done to cause alarm or distress, or for sexual gratification, ie flashing.

To show just how ok it is, remember we have a naked bike ride,

https://wnbrlondon.uk
And the naked rambler,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Gough

dont tell people that, they are already omg with the pearls at the moment

its to do with the psychology of how society psychologically sees the body alsmost as something to be ashamed of and covered up, when in other society's they embrace the human form and also we are born naked, so if in theory genetically we needed clothes or covering etc

or manybe i studied to many national geographic magazines and people need to watch more nature documentaries ? who knows

None of that makes much sense.

I think people are misunderstanding the point I'm making. I'm not saying everyone should walk around naked or that social norms don't exist.

I'm questioning why we treat the human body as something inherently shameful or automatically sexual. We're all born naked, and throughout history there have been countless societies and cultures where different levels of clothing were perfectly normal depending on climate, tradition, and social values.

That suggests our attitudes towards nudity are shaped far more by culture than by biology.

Modern Western society has largely conditioned us to see nudity through a lens of embarrassment or sexuality, whereas naturist communities and many Indigenous cultures have viewed the unclothed human body as simply natural.

That's why I mentioned naturism and tribes it wasn't to say suburban Britain should copy them, but to illustrate that our current views aren't universal truths. What one society considers shocking, another considers entirely ordinary.

My point is simply that our discomfort with nudity says as much about our cultural conditioning as it does about the act of being naked itself.

If you can't air your pubes by your petunias in your own garden, where can you?

Your previous post literally made no sense. This one almost seems like it’s written by someone else, it’s articulate and despite its length I can’t see a single typo or spelling mistake, whereas your previous short posts were full of them. It’s very odd.

These latest points are pretty obvious ones about attitudes to nudity being cultural. I don’t really disagree, I just don’t think it changes my view on whether it’s ok to be naked in your garden when you know your neighbours can see you.

this was ran through Grammarly i usally dont use it but to make my points clear to the captain, i had to type this up and it connects all the points i was trying to make. hope it helps

😂 brilliant

All societies have cultural norms they follow. No human beings operate solely in accordance with their biology.

In this culture we cover up, other than in limited circumstances, like gym changing rooms or naturist resorts. It isn't a cultural norm in the UK (outside of these exceptional places) to be naked outdoors where you can easily be seen, like in an overlooked back garden.

I would need to find the binnoculars .You could not peel me away from the windows.

I wouldn't love it but at the end of the day it's their garden and their bodies, and naked bodies are not the end of the world

Don't look, problem solved.

Tell him not to look. It's their property, they can do what they like in their back garden.

I was an 11 year old with neighbours who enjoyed getting their kit off in the garden. We thought it the most amusing thing ever, I’d even invite mates over to have a laugh.

OP your son will be finding it the best laugh ever.

Sadly our neighbours had kids and their lives were made thoroughly miserable because of their nude parents.

Being seen/ 'predictably visible' does not make it a criminal offense.

If you really want to bring the idea of criminality into a discussion about what people do in their own gardens, the law on indecent exposure is about whether the intention is to outrage, frighten or upset (e.g. flashing) - not about whether someone is 'predictably visible'.

In the eyes of the law, you can lounge around nude in your garden to your heart's content every day in view of your neighbours, as long as your intention is not to cause outrage and upset.

The police would have no interest whatsoever in a complaint about people not wearing clothes in a hot tub in their own garden. They have more important things to be worrying about.