To be fed up of hearing 'just get on with it'?

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This kind of 'just get on with it' RE the heat is all over Facebook. People talking about the heat in 1976 and saying 'we just got on with it' or 'we muddled through' (as if people didn't die as a result of that heatwave)

My issue is - shouldn't we as a society be aiming higher than just getting on with things and muddling through? We should be campaigning for better infrastructure, better working practices.

I just think we have all this technology, we're supposed to be a rich country, let's fight to make things better rather than just managing. What happened to the spirit of the first union workers who demanded better conditions and rights? I want to see that spirit back.

I understand what you are saying completely. Do you have a clue what is going on with the UK at the moment? I hope you are very young and thus your naivety is excusable to a degree.

As an Aussie, those temps are just a warmer summer day.

What you all lack is the set up and experience to deal with it. You need to get a cooling system or find other ways to make the heat part of every day life. It's not going to get any better, so you'll have to adapt. I don't mean that belligerently, it's just a fact of life. Learn from the countries are that used to it.

Oh dear, as well as not understanding the content you linked to, you don't understand how AI news aggregators work either...

The MSN.com AI doesn't write original stories. It scrapes content from existing news sources and rephrases it. It also tells you what original content it's scraping from. That's what those references/links to the Mail and Telegraph are. Click them and you can see the sources it has obtained its content from.

It's genuinely quite concerning that you don't understand the need to verify and qualify the sources you read online. If you don't understand who is feeding you information you rely on, how can you trust any of it? And why should we trust your opinion?

In your posts, you have misconstrued what I've said, minimised my points, made assumptions about me, and personally insulted me.

Is this because you are a nasty person, or is it to try and make my argument look worse and therefore yours better? If it's necessary to do those things to make your argument look stronger, then it can't be a very good argument can it?

Would it even be possible for you to have a good faith discussion? And let your points stand on their own merit without belittling and insulting me? I think your behaviour speaks for itself.

Yes indeed climate change is something the world will have to address. However I fear it might be behind a few of the UK's other pressing problems.
Seriously though - everyone is aware of the changing climate control. At least if she buys a portable air conditioner she will be able to sleep and perhaps work from home. Then she can ponder how to solve climate change.

Oh well if you need to take tomorrow off work because we've upset you at least you will be cool with your new airconditioner.

Honestly.

I have pointed out the financial reasons why the UK cannot do what you propose and you went 'shrug, lack of ambition'

The problem with the UK is that we don’t get the extreme weather for very long so spending hundreds or thousands on things that you may only actually need for a week a year, is infeasible for many. Air conditioning, snow tyres etc

It's great to build so that homes and businesses are easy to heat and cool.

But if we are worried about climate change installing AC everywhere seems like a dumb approach.

I've said upthread that I have a portable AC and solar panels. I'm not sure why you're obsessed with this, as it is completely irrelevant to the point of my thread. A point which continues to go over your head, time and again, which you've again demonstrated here.

As you have once again shown that you would rather be nasty than engage in good faith, I will no longer be engaging with you. It is a shame that some people feel the need to behave this way, and is an example of one of the problems with society today.

And theres the assumption that i would order that from Amazon during a heatwave there is some stuff DH wants but hes leaving it till next week We dont all live life by your standards. And while im on the subject its not SH tenants who have contributed to the problem by driving massive SUVs and endless holidays to places like Dubai. So why the fuck should we sweat our guts out because of other peoples choices. I dont go abroad Last time was a school trip forty years ago. I dont drive and im child free by choice So i feel no guilt.

Why?

They’re not being nasty. They’re asking you to account for your idea that we should get everything we want if we (aka other cleverer or more hardworking people) are ‘ambitious’ enough. What’s your contribution to the world, out of interest?

My stomach doesnt think so The heat exacerbates my bowel issues

I've never been to Dubai. Last hol was 2014 to Cornwall. I drive a tiny 'city' car and do less than 4000 miles per year. Not sure what that has got to do with anything. I'm childfree as well.

Confused as to your comment re Social housing. Do private houses not get hot then?

Also nobody said you had to live to my standards. If you don't want to buy an air conditioner then don't

*However I've drafted a letter for you.

Dear IMF
When you come in to bail out the UK please do something about the hot summers before you address everything else.
The benefits office was very uncomfortable when I went to sign on for my free money.

Yours entitled non adult*

This is nasty.

Yes and that all happened at a time when people died at 75, drew a pension for a maximum of 10 years, didn’t seek to expensively explore their ‘neurodiversity’ via the NHS and instead just expected it to fund braces, operations and some care in the community for much smaller and harder working population.

Now we insist upon getting far more, and holding public services to higher and higher account, but also want generous benefits, the ability to draw a pension for sometimes 30 years and free everything ‘because it’s ambitious’.

Surely you can see the difference?

We have already had a week at the end of May and this heat has been building since the 16th of June and is not due to end till Sunday.

What do you think other countries which have a bit of hot whether now and again do? They just "get on with it" - something you seem incapable of understanding. The whole world doesn't stop for a few days of hot weather.

Absolutely fucking right You cant compare them We didnt have ridiculous health and safety rules in 76 that turned flats into sweat boxes like window restrictors and fire doors No gaps allowed No ventilation.

What makes you say we used to have a harder working population? Do you have evidence for that or is it something else the Daily Telegraph fed you?

You are right. I just assumed based on what you were posting that you were sweltering during the heatwave. Now it seems you aren't. What the heck are you posting about then?

Come back tomorrow and we can have a good faith discussion on the bond markets and the UK's ever increasing debt and how it gets out of the doom loop.

At no point did I compare those two things. I gave an example of something which at the time was ambitious and difficult and yet was achieved. I made no comparison to the present day NHS, benefits system, or pension. As I said to PP, if you have to put words in my mouth then you clearly don't have a very good point yourself.

I've been trying to say the same thing on several threads. However Brits seem to prefer sitting back and moaning rather than be pro-active and learn to adapt.

We 'get on with it' because we have cooling systems installed, offices have cooling systems, we're ready for it. If your cooling isn't up to it, you can go to a mall for a reprieve (they're air conditioned) or go to a movie (always cool). But don't leave pets at home in the heat. Please watch the pets and cool them as you need to.

dear god, does the Prime minister know?