To be fed up of hearing 'just get on with it'?

[glitterpaperchain]

This kind of 'just get on with it' RE the heat is all over Facebook. People talking about the heat in 1976 and saying 'we just got on with it' or 'we muddled through' (as if people didn't die as a result of that heatwave)

My issue is - shouldn't we as a society be aiming higher than just getting on with things and muddling through? We should be campaigning for better infrastructure, better working practices.

I just think we have all this technology, we're supposed to be a rich country, let's fight to make things better rather than just managing. What happened to the spirit of the first union workers who demanded better conditions and rights? I want to see that spirit back.

@glitterpaperchain In your original post you said shouldn’t we be aiming higher.

Aiming higher is what’s caused climate change. Humans have caused nearly all the problems on the planet by overconsumption and greed. Technology is a major driver of climate change.

What to do? It’s a real dilemma!!!

There is more than one way to aim high. Technology can be both a problem and a solution, look up solarpunk

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-starmer-john-healey-resigns-b2994120.html

Agree. We need to go back to older ways. Not double down in an attempt to game the system. Smaller cars, smaller houses, buy less tat. Less flying (and yes before anyone starts I do all these things - have never owned a car, live in a very basic house, haven’t flown for 8 years and spend very little. Try to ethically buy, etc).

All good ideas 👍

Ireland’s economy is doing better than ours because they have better investment because they have lower corporation tax rates. Surely you understand global market competition?

I don’t have a ‘problem’ with anyone but we live in the UK and it’s pointless reading arbitrary books about radically different countries and assuming we can apply the principles here.

What's baffling me - and genuinely baffling me, not mumsnet "baffling" - is that have we not seen this heat before?

It's what, 32 degrees? Maybe 35 in some areas? I am absolutely certain we have reached these temperatures before in the UK and it hasn't been received like this. Yes, it was later in the year, July or August but it's not "unprecedented" is it?

That's why I'm not sure why everyone is finding it hard to cope??

So, Gabriel Zucman is a French person but his research is not about France specifically. Seriously, please read about economics

Openly admitting a lack of understanding is the first step towards understanding, well done

So you want entire global reform because the UK is experiencing a heatwave?

😭😭😭 I can't anymore with you

See what I said about your black and white thinking and taking things to extremes

Yes, be patronising, that's helpful

Solarpunk does sound wonderful, thank you!!!

This

Is https://community-tu.org/who-we-are/our-sectors/the-self-employed-and-freelancers/ of any use to you?

Excellently said!

I grew up in the far south of the UK, anmd distinctly remember mum having to use a shovel to dig our way from the back door to the outside toilet ( and no it wasn't seemingly high drifts of snow just cos I was a kid, was actually door height)

So what can you do other then just get on with it? If people are sensible, they won’t end up in Hospital.. stay hydrated, stay out the sun , buy fans, , portable air-conditioning whatever helps thenjust carry on. What else? Apart from come on here and moan of course, which achieves nothing. The temperature will drop down from tomorrow anyway.. next thing people will be moaning they’re too cold, some people are never happy.

That's all gonna cost money that the government and businesses haven't got. So we just have to get on with it and close early if we need to.

I'm glad I dont have to go to work in this heat. However, people do have to just get on with it. Whats the alternative. Close the hospitals and cancel operations because it's hot. I dont suppose folk who lived through world war 2 had the option to tell the enemy to stop the air raids because it was disturbing their sleep. I agree we are turning into a nation of totally pathetic weaklings.

The World Health Organisation is screaming for applied solutions re: climate change. Countries, councils, local authorities…just kick the time bomb down the road where eventually it will go BOOM, meanwhile everyone either denies it or blames someone else (or even God…or history ‘well we survived the ice ages’ yadda yadda). Fiddling while Rome (and everywhere else) burns 🔥

It would cost around around £300-500k to install AC in every classroom of a large British school. There are 22,000 state schools in the UK. The cost would be £2-11BILLION.

We should also be looking at how to mitigate climate change, and preparing ourselves for more weather extremes like this, and snow etc.

It has to start with someone….well volunteered!