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AIBU to stop unannounced visits after overhearing cruel comments in my garden?

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UnflatteringComment · Today 13:04

Dh has 2 dd from his previous marriage. They are 16 and 18. I’ve always thought I got on well with both.
He sees them very regularly and they often just pop round whenever they fancy as well as the arranged times when they stay.

It’s relevant to include that dsd2 is in recovery for an eating disorder.

It’s been hot and I’ve been relaxing in the garden some days in a bikini (recently lost weight in jabs so was feeling quite confident). Yesterday they came over (not planned) and I heard them laughing at me from the kitchen and saying maybe it’s not a good thing I’ve lost weight if I’m going to start dressing differently and showing off loose skin. I don’t think they realised I could hear ?

Anyway I got up and went inside , said nothing and was thinking to myself how funny it’ll be when they are my age and look like this they’ll probably remember making bitchy comments. Dsd2 said hello and I said hi back, she said they were going to sit outside with a drink did I want anything I said no thanks I’m just going to put a dress on , cover up these wobbly bits and loose skin and smirked. She looked a bit shocked probably realising I’d heard her.

Next thing I know as I’m getting changed the door slams , I went down and nobody was there . Half an hour later dh calls me to ask why the hell i was talking about weight and smirking at dsd2 and apparently looking her up and down ???!!!

I told him what had happened and he said he will have to get their side of the story. Well of course I know dsd1 will back up what dsd2 is saying. I’m just really disappointed with them and I didn’t do anything wrong! AIBU to say to dh that there are no more unannounced visits after this - I should be able to sit in my garden in a bikini and not feel laughed at?

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RanyaJerodung · Today 17:14

Pinkbasketcase · Today 17:14

Why would you stop them coming to their home cause your feelings were hurt? Surely it's there dads home also which means their home?

Deal with your hurt feelings and move on...

She said unannounced. It's in the title.

Thebigonesgetaway · Today 17:15

Gettingbysomehow · Today 17:09

Id have kicked the pair of them out. Nobody has the right to speak to me like that in my own home.

She wasn’t spoken to. Did you not read the op, she over heard it, it was the op that went up and did it to her face. Looking her up and down and smirking

two wrongs don’t make a right.

Aluna · Today 17:15

RanyaJerodung · Today 17:04

It sounds as if she's always been happy to have them in the house.
Just not slagging her off.

I understand that some posters here are insecure and find it painful to hear that young people find them funny, but it’s true. I’m not sure how posters have got into adulthood without realising this.

GrumpyButOk · Today 17:16

GrandmasCat · Today 15:08

I don’t know OP, if they have been bitchy and now they are making it look as if you were the bitchy one and one of them is the victim of an “unprovoked attack”, with no acknowledgement to their nasty behaviour and your husband needs to check on them to see if you are telling the truth…

I wouldn’t like them around either when there are no “witnesses” around. What if they accuse you of something worse??? I wouldn’t be “punishing the bitchy comment” just protecting myself from serious misunderstandings where you can be accused by either or both parents of making things worse for a teen with ED who seems fit to make jokes about another woman’s body with no concern for her feelings.

So in order to protect everyone, everyone is welcome when their dad is around. Period.

Edited

Agree with this. OP, I would also expect an apology from the girls, but would point out that their behaviour has consequences which cannot be instantly wiped out by an apology. One of which is that you no longer feel comfortable in your own house/garden in a bikini whilst the girls are there. You'll probably also think about those words even when they are not there, so they have spoiled one of your simple pleasures. Following the apology, and for the sake of your DH and their visitation, you will (reluctantly) "cover up" when the girls are there with their father. The rest of the time you will wear whatever you damn well please in your own house and garden, so, for now, no visits without DH there. IF the trust between you all rebuilds at some point then you can review it.

You are entitled to wear whatever you like in your own home without being made to feel self-conscious by a rude teenager.

Aluna · Today 17:16

MaryBeardsShoes · Today 16:57

She didn’t have to say nothing, she could have chosen to say “I heard what you were saying about me, and it wasn’t kind. Please don’t talk about me like that in my own home.” That would have been fair.

That would have been fair and mature. And then the girls would have felt bad rather than defensive.

Thebigonesgetaway · Today 17:18

GrumpyButOk · Today 17:16

Agree with this. OP, I would also expect an apology from the girls, but would point out that their behaviour has consequences which cannot be instantly wiped out by an apology. One of which is that you no longer feel comfortable in your own house/garden in a bikini whilst the girls are there. You'll probably also think about those words even when they are not there, so they have spoiled one of your simple pleasures. Following the apology, and for the sake of your DH and their visitation, you will (reluctantly) "cover up" when the girls are there with their father. The rest of the time you will wear whatever you damn well please in your own house and garden, so, for now, no visits without DH there. IF the trust between you all rebuilds at some point then you can review it.

You are entitled to wear whatever you like in your own home without being made to feel self-conscious by a rude teenager.

Um no. She needs to be a grown up about it. She doesn’t need to cover up and she needs to address her own behaviour as well as theirs.

RanyaJerodung · Today 17:18

Aluna · Today 17:15

I understand that some posters here are insecure and find it painful to hear that young people find them funny, but it’s true. I’m not sure how posters have got into adulthood without realising this.

I'm joining in discussing what happened to the OP.
Not what young people find or do not find amusing. Which seems to vary widely, anyway.

MedlarJelly · Today 17:19

Aluna · Today 17:15

I understand that some posters here are insecure and find it painful to hear that young people find them funny, but it’s true. I’m not sure how posters have got into adulthood without realising this.

It's sad that there are people who think making up lies about someone like the young person did about OP is completely normal. I guess because they are prone to lying about people too

ThreadGuardDog · Today 17:20

neverbeenskiing · Today 17:03

Hell would freeze over before I let anyone tell me my children aren't welcome in my home whenever they want to be there.

You say it was your home first, but ultimately when you married a man with children you agreed to open your home to those children. As your DH's children they should feel that they have two homes, not that they are guests in their Dad's home.

Their comments were unkind and hurtful, and that should be addressed directly with them. But banning them from turning up unannounced isn't relevant or proportionate.

OP did open her home to his children. They both had house keys and felt welcome to visit even when their dad wasn’t home. That says a lot about OP as a step parent. These two need to realise that they have made OP feel uncomfortable in her own home and they’ve shown her they don’t respect the welcome she’s extended to them.

Not only that, but they’ve lied to their father about what happened, trying to make it look as though OP instigated the whole thing, instead of taking responsibility and owning it. I think for that reason, OP is perfectly within her rights to ask for the house keys back and to insist that they only visit when their dad is home. At least for now. They’ve shown her who they really are and it’s clearly very hard for OP to accept that neither of them is the person she thought they were. The damage they’ve done to their relationship needs to be acknowledged and they need to apologise, and mean it.

TheChicDreamer · Today 17:20

THisbackwithavengeance · Today 16:51

What?? Have I read something totally different? These teenage girls were being grade A bitches and the OP rightly called them out. They’ve gone running to Daddy to get their story in first as they know they’re in the wrong. Stand up for yourself OP. It would be wrong to ban them but let your DH know that you’re not going to lie down and take insults.

This with bells on.

Aluna · Today 17:21

MedlarJelly · Today 17:19

It's sad that there are people who think making up lies about someone like the young person did about OP is completely normal. I guess because they are prone to lying about people too

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That’s merely your interpretation, I don’t believe DD is lying. Either OP did what she’s accused of, which given her petulant response is quite plausible, or DD genuinely thought she did.

Pinkbasketcase · Today 17:21

RanyaJerodung · Today 17:14

She said unannounced. It's in the title.

Why would the daughters have to announce they are going to their home?

Rosesandthorns66 · Today 17:22

I think you are the adult here so need to act like the mature one here.
When you lose weight unfortunately the skin does become loose. (If I ever manage to lose my weight, I know the amount of loose skin I will have).😂
I think they saw you and it was the spur of the moment comment and they didn't mean for you to hear them, so its not like they were being rude to you directly. Sometimes we all say something behind people's back which we would never say to their face.

Children do make these kind of comments, sometimes my children will say things to get a reaction from me, I just ignore them, like I can't be bothered with their childish games.
It honestly doesn't even bother me.

I think its unkind to stop them from coming to their dad's home because it sounds like you showing your control over the matter.

Obviously their dad is going to have a word with them, so they will realise their comments were over heard and hurtful.

I hope things get sorted out and you let this go as a one off comment. You can't be cross with children, forever. Best wishes.

Thebigonesgetaway · Today 17:23

MedlarJelly · Today 17:19

It's sad that there are people who think making up lies about someone like the young person did about OP is completely normal. I guess because they are prone to lying about people too

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The ops basically admitted it. She’s admitted the smirking.

Lifecircle · Today 17:24

UnflatteringComment · Today 13:19

Yes I was probably wrong to smirk but it was just my kneejerk reaction.

Right or wrong.... I'm pretty sure I would have said the same.

Aluna · Today 17:24

Thebigonesgetaway · Today 17:23

The ops basically admitted it. She’s admitted the smirking.

That’s exactly what I said.

BruFord · Today 17:26

What's done is done in terms of your reaction.

I suspect that your DSD2 is refusing to talk about it atm because she knows that she was nasty and doesn't want to take responsibility for it. What I'd do is leave it for a few days and in the meantime, talk to your DH about how it's important for family members not to be nasty about one other and that going forward, you all need to be kinder and more supportive of each other.

It's clear that up to now, you and your DSD's have had a good relationship, or they wouldn't pop around when their Dad isn't there. Making those comments about your body was cruel and they need to accept that - it's nothing to do with DSD2's ED, they were being bitchy and that can have consequences, it's a life lesson that they need to learn.

We've said to our two (21 and 17) that family members are some of the few people in the world who'll love you and go out of their way for you - don't be unkind to them.

Edit to say that I wouldn't ban them from the house, address this incident and move on.

SatsumaDog · Today 17:27

I don’t think you were wrong at all op. If they can dish it out they should be able to take it.

ThreadGuardDog · Today 17:27

Thebigonesgetaway · Today 17:18

Um no. She needs to be a grown up about it. She doesn’t need to cover up and she needs to address her own behaviour as well as theirs.

OP hasn’t done anything wrong. Whether she needs to cover up or not isn’t the point - although quite a few posters here have made it plain that they think wearing a bikini in your own back garden is unacceptable. She’s been fat shamed, plain and simple, and it will have a lasting effect.

The girls have also compounded their actions by lying to their dad about it. That puts a totally different slant on things. If I were OP I would be insisting on having the house keys back and stopping them dropping in unannounced while their dad isn’t home. At least for a while.

Teaandtarot · Today 17:27

Overtheatlantic · Today 14:23

They are old enough to know better and that bitchiness has consequences but if you ban them then you start a family war.

Totally agree with this. Especially 18 she's an adult! No pussy footing around them it's not like she's 12.

You should be able to wear what you want in your own home without feeling judged

Anarchy99 · Today 17:28

Rosesandthorns66 · Today 17:22

I think you are the adult here so need to act like the mature one here.
When you lose weight unfortunately the skin does become loose. (If I ever manage to lose my weight, I know the amount of loose skin I will have).😂
I think they saw you and it was the spur of the moment comment and they didn't mean for you to hear them, so its not like they were being rude to you directly. Sometimes we all say something behind people's back which we would never say to their face.

Children do make these kind of comments, sometimes my children will say things to get a reaction from me, I just ignore them, like I can't be bothered with their childish games.
It honestly doesn't even bother me.

I think its unkind to stop them from coming to their dad's home because it sounds like you showing your control over the matter.

Obviously their dad is going to have a word with them, so they will realise their comments were over heard and hurtful.

I hope things get sorted out and you let this go as a one off comment. You can't be cross with children, forever. Best wishes.

I think the Op behaved appallingly but 16 and 18 yos are not children. They are young women.

And if your children keep making comments to get a reaction from you then ignoring them clearly isn’t working

ThreadGuardDog · Today 17:28

Aluna · Today 17:24

That’s exactly what I said.

So what ? She smirked. At least she didn’t give them the opportunity to eye roll and walk away by confronting them directly. And the girls did lie. They told their dad that OP was the one who started this whole thing - conveniently leaving out the fact that she overheard them bitching about her, and that that was what prompted it.

Mummyoflittledragon · Today 17:28

Blackbird2409 · Today 17:07

I wouldn’t pussyfoot around the eating disorder. She didn’t think that you might develop one yourself after such bitchy comments from them. I don’t think you said anything wrong at all. I couldn’t trust the pair of them again and would remember it for future. Sound an awful pair.

Unlikely. Eating disorders are largely genetic.

RanyaJerodung · Today 17:29

Pinkbasketcase · Today 17:21

Why would the daughters have to announce they are going to their home?

... because they've been caught slagging her off, according to the OP.
I'm sure she's clarified why.

Anarchy99 · Today 17:29

ThreadGuardDog · Today 17:28

So what ? She smirked. At least she didn’t give them the opportunity to eye roll and walk away by confronting them directly. And the girls did lie. They told their dad that OP was the one who started this whole thing - conveniently leaving out the fact that she overheard them bitching about her, and that that was what prompted it.

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You think that’s going to teach them anything? All they learn is that their SM is easily wound up