AIBU to conclude women pretty much always outshine men overall?

[Unsddd]

Or is it just me? I find that men, as nice as they can be, are just a little bit shit.

And even if they’re not shit, they’re just not as good as the woman they’re with or a woman of similar age and circumstance.

I see it everywhere. My parents. Friends’ relationships. Colleagues. The sense of entitlement, putting themselves first, not being as organised, not thinking ahead in the same way, letting their mood affect everyone around them…. I am not saying women are not like this, of course they can be. But it’s rare it’s to the extent of men.

Maybe it is just me. I’m old and cynical these days.

It is learned helplessness that gets rewarded. Women are the suckers who plan ahead and consider others. Mostly.

Rubbish.

Maybe it’s just because women are not physically capable of committing the most violent crimes? Doesn’t mean they are “better” than men.

I have a couple of male friends who are just about on par with my female friends! But when it comes to a lot of men I have to work with or put up with because they’re dating a friend of mine, I have to agree!
The women are godesses who have no idea they are, the men think they’re god’s gift while actually being pretty mid.

Complete and utter nonsense.

I'm not disagreeing with you, just providing some examples and not that I am commenting on if I believe she is guilty or not, but Lucy Letby?

Rose West?
Ailean Wournos?
Myra Hindley?
Amanda Knox? (i know she was exonorated but whatever) and many many more that don't immediately spring to mind.

On average men are physically stronger than women. No woman has passed the full SAS training because mentally and physically they’re not strong enough. Does that mean men “outshine” women?

@Unsddd my last post was meant for you.

@6ate9 but what you are describing is a physical attribute that naturally occurs - men are biologically typically stronger than women.

The characteristics I am referring to are personality and character based. Kindness, generosity, honesty, work ethic and so on

@LeaderBee yes of course but in comparison a list of equivalent men would be much much longer

The kindest most generous people I know are men. Contrastingly all the spiteful mean spirited ones are women.

Just admit you're a misandrist and move on.

Women don’t “outshine” men on personality and characteristics. Neither men or women have a stronger work ethic. Men on average work longer hours in more dangerous jobs. Men and women are different, but one sex isn’t “better” than the other.

Why are you talking about the absolute dregs of society? What has that to do with anyone 'outshining' anyone else?

And who is doing the bulk of the childcare whilst these DHs are being committed at work? Maybe they are enabled to think work really matters by their wives willingly picking up the domestic slack?

Did you too notice how it wasn't a man starting a thread to bash women for being inferior?

Funny that, how there was no conflict, and all of a sudden, there it is, on this very forum?

How very un-shit of OP to start an argument.

@BettyJoanPerske because the dregs are mostly men

Perhaps, but then so are the geniuses.

What an odd post. Both men and women have their positives minuses. Women have probably had fewer opportunities historically and can now demonstrate more equality due to the changes in society. But we’re just different

I know a couple of gay men couples who seem to manage very well. Beautiful homes and gardens and rich and fulfilling lives. Admittedly no children.

There are some heinous men AND women in this world. This doesn’t mean half the population “outshine” the other half!!!! I’ve said it before, this is an awful message for boys and men to have to hear and IT’S JUST NOT TRUE!!!!!!

There’s plenty of learned helplessness amongst women! It may take a different form to men, but it exists in abundance!

For every women who wants to focus on their career and not be held back by having a family, there’s another who is more than happy for their man to take on the burden of a stressful full-time job so they can focus more on the home and family.

Different women make different choices, freely. To try and cajole every women to be a girl-boss, even it’s done implicitly by subtle expectations, is profoundly unfeminist in my view, as it negates the fact that many women actually do choose to have more of a focus on their family, and wouldn’t have it any other way.

I’m not necessarily talking about trad-wives here, but the millions upon millions of women for whom being part-time with a less stressful job, and more time for home and family, is an active preference.

@Justveryveryangry Excellent post!!!

Brillliant post. It actually reflects what is said by the brilliant sociologist Catherine Hakim, whose work actually opened my eyes to how much harmful nonsense is talked by a lot of feminists.

r.e. the SAS thing - in special forces and high pressure operations you need a man! Imagine women doing the Iranian embassy siege or taking it Bin Laden.