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To think my universal credit feels generous.

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MoonBaby1 · 20/06/2026 14:10

I got to my early 40s without ever needing to claim but circumstances find me single and paying the lions share of child related outgoings.

I work full time on£31,000 and have found out this year thanks to applying that I get on average about £800 from UC. It has been an absolute life changer and will hopefully be able to afford a modest uk holiday actually during the summer holidays and pay the school back some debt im in for after school care.

So many benefits bashing threads so I just wanted to present another side that as a cash strapped mum of two who works full time, UC is making a positive difference to our life. I didn't even think id qualify!

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curiositykilledthecat0 · 20/06/2026 20:16

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:12

Meanwhile, what entitlements is the father getting? Why should the taxpayer keep funding in the cases of absent fathers?

they shouldn’t.

unfortunately it’s quite common for absent parents to not pay for the upkeep of their kids.

child maintenance service is useless. IMO drivers license and passport should be suspended if you do not pay for your kids.

society needs to view it as something that will make you an outcast. Let’s face it loads of people shirk their financial responsibilities to their kids .

homebytheseanearme · 20/06/2026 20:17

PenelopeJoanSterling · 20/06/2026 20:12

at some point theres only so much £ people have to spend,
there are only so many companies that need to exist for society to run
then theres globalisation
so you either need a smaller population because the business cannot run without profits
or you somehow advance from capitalism or what ever system we have

Ok? I don’t really understand that and I don’t claim to be an expert on any of this. But, if only 11% of the 36% of people claiming UC actually work 30+ hours, how is this a problem of business not paying enough? I would absolutely agree if the stats said that 70%+ of people were working flat out and not earning enough to live, but that isn’t what’s happening? or am I missing it? Happy to be better informed!

youalright · 20/06/2026 20:17

XenoBitch · 20/06/2026 20:14

I am reminded of the poster who was on £100k (might have been £150k) who was cancelling Netflix because they could not afford it anymore.

Ultimately, it is down to priorities. Someone on a very low income/UC could afford a modest holiday because they have cut back on other things.
From what I see on here, it seems people on low income/UC are better at budgeting and living within their means than some of the higher earners.

100% I always laugh at the threads of people on 100k incomes "struggling"

XenoBitch · 20/06/2026 20:17

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:15

The high earners are paying more tax!

I know. But like a PP said, there is something wrong in their budgeting if they can't afford something that someone that earns lot less can.

But instead, they complain that people on less than them are somehow getting "too much".

PenelopeJoanSterling · 20/06/2026 20:18

homebytheseanearme · 20/06/2026 20:17

Ok? I don’t really understand that and I don’t claim to be an expert on any of this. But, if only 11% of the 36% of people claiming UC actually work 30+ hours, how is this a problem of business not paying enough? I would absolutely agree if the stats said that 70%+ of people were working flat out and not earning enough to live, but that isn’t what’s happening? or am I missing it? Happy to be better informed!

compare these three simple figures based on a standard full-time worker:

The Legal Floor (National Minimum Wage)

  • Hourly: £12.71
  • Yearly: £23,132
  • The Argument: This is the government-set minimum. It is widely criticised for being a political baseline rather than an accurate reflection of living costs.

The Corporate Compromise (Some supermarkets Actual Pay)

  • Hourly: £13.28
  • Yearly: £24,169
  • The Argument: Big companies pay £1,037 more than the legal minimum to attract workers, but they still tie their wages close to the official minimum wage framework.

The True Value (Minimum Income Standard)

  • Hourly: £15.35
  • Yearly: £27,937
  • The Argument: Independent research shows this is the real amount a single person needs to cover the bare essentials (food, rent, energy) and live with dignity.
catspyjamas1 · 20/06/2026 20:24

My currently unemployed, English partner that doesn't live with me, has worked since he was 16 & has no children, gets that (£800) a month. He has rent and bills to pay. Glad to see you're employed and topping up for a holiday.

catspyjamas1 · 20/06/2026 20:25

loveandletdie · 20/06/2026 14:21

Excuse my ignorance as I’m not from the UK but my understanding that universal credit was to help low income people/families with day to day life but not to fund holidays as they are a luxury

Same

homebytheseanearme · 20/06/2026 20:26

PenelopeJoanSterling · 20/06/2026 20:18

compare these three simple figures based on a standard full-time worker:

The Legal Floor (National Minimum Wage)

  • Hourly: £12.71
  • Yearly: £23,132
  • The Argument: This is the government-set minimum. It is widely criticised for being a political baseline rather than an accurate reflection of living costs.

The Corporate Compromise (Some supermarkets Actual Pay)

  • Hourly: £13.28
  • Yearly: £24,169
  • The Argument: Big companies pay £1,037 more than the legal minimum to attract workers, but they still tie their wages close to the official minimum wage framework.

The True Value (Minimum Income Standard)

  • Hourly: £15.35
  • Yearly: £27,937
  • The Argument: Independent research shows this is the real amount a single person needs to cover the bare essentials (food, rent, energy) and live with dignity.
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Totally agree with all those figures. I own a business. I don’t pay anyone anything near minimum or living wage, simply because I don’t think it’s enough to live on. My lowest paid employee is on £36k and is a trainee aged 22.
BUT, the stats say that less than 40% of people on UC are in any kind of work. So the majority are not working at all. And, for those that do work, less that 11% work more than 30 hours. So most are actually not working full time at Tesco for just above minimum wage?
Honestly, am I totally missing it?

youalright · 20/06/2026 20:28

catspyjamas1 · 20/06/2026 20:25

Same

So you think anyone on uc so the disabled, carers, low earners, single parents should never have a holiday in there whole life.

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:28

MoonBaby1 · 20/06/2026 14:56

My ex is not in receipt of any uc and he does pay towards his children. He is on about the same wage as me but has never claimed uc.

So he pays maintenance but you still get 800 quid top up on universal credit? That's a month's salary for a lot of people.

youalright · 20/06/2026 20:29

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:28

So he pays maintenance but you still get 800 quid top up on universal credit? That's a month's salary for a lot of people.

No its not 🤣🤣

Pickledonion1999 · 20/06/2026 20:29

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:28

So he pays maintenance but you still get 800 quid top up on universal credit? That's a month's salary for a lot of people.

So 60k salary between the pair of them and still needing to claim £800 a month UC.

XenoBitch · 20/06/2026 20:29

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:28

So he pays maintenance but you still get 800 quid top up on universal credit? That's a month's salary for a lot of people.

Maintenance is not counted when working out UC.

catspyjamas1 · 20/06/2026 20:29

youalright · 20/06/2026 20:28

So you think anyone on uc so the disabled, carers, low earners, single parents should never have a holiday in there whole life.

A holiday is a luxury. I understand this is mind-blowing for UK folks.

PenelopeJoanSterling · 20/06/2026 20:30

homebytheseanearme · 20/06/2026 20:26

Totally agree with all those figures. I own a business. I don’t pay anyone anything near minimum or living wage, simply because I don’t think it’s enough to live on. My lowest paid employee is on £36k and is a trainee aged 22.
BUT, the stats say that less than 40% of people on UC are in any kind of work. So the majority are not working at all. And, for those that do work, less that 11% work more than 30 hours. So most are actually not working full time at Tesco for just above minimum wage?
Honestly, am I totally missing it?

If people are working 30+ hours but still require Universal Credit (UC) to survive, their pay is too low. so it may not be all companies

XenoBitch · 20/06/2026 20:30

catspyjamas1 · 20/06/2026 20:29

A holiday is a luxury. I understand this is mind-blowing for UK folks.

If someone on UC can scrimp and save for a holiday, the fair play to them.
On UC, you are not told what you can and can't spend it on.

youalright · 20/06/2026 20:31

Pickledonion1999 · 20/06/2026 20:29

So 60k salary between the pair of them and still needing to claim £800 a month UC.

But their not together so are running 2 homes, 2 cars do you think dp should hand over £30k to op and live on the street

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:31

Pickledonion1999 · 20/06/2026 20:29

So 60k salary between the pair of them and still needing to claim £800 a month UC.

A total pisstake but I don't blame them, I blame the disproportionate system. Money should be prioritised for the disabled and other genuine cases where people cannot work.

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:32

youalright · 20/06/2026 20:31

But their not together so are running 2 homes, 2 cars do you think dp should hand over £30k to op and live on the street

The choice to not live together should not impact on the tax payer.

youalright · 20/06/2026 20:32

catspyjamas1 · 20/06/2026 20:29

A holiday is a luxury. I understand this is mind-blowing for UK folks.

Thats not what I asked if said do you think disabled people and carers should never have a holiday?

Pickledonion1999 · 20/06/2026 20:33

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:31

A total pisstake but I don't blame them, I blame the disproportionate system. Money should be prioritised for the disabled and other genuine cases where people cannot work.

It is a pisstake. It's not even scrimping and saving on benefits to have a cheap holiday. It's 10k extra a year guaranteed income on top of a 30k salary and CM. It's way more than a cheap holiday. Honestly no wonder the country is broke.

BlackRowan · 20/06/2026 20:33

I don’t think UC is meant for holidays. If you are using it for holidays you shouldn’t be getting it

homebytheseanearme · 20/06/2026 20:33

PenelopeJoanSterling · 20/06/2026 20:30

If people are working 30+ hours but still require Universal Credit (UC) to survive, their pay is too low. so it may not be all companies

I don’t disagree but that appears to be a very small minority of claimants? Unless i am totally off track and someone can put me right?

XenoBitch · 20/06/2026 20:33

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:32

The choice to not live together should not impact on the tax payer.

They are not a couple. He is her ex.

To claim UC as a couple, you MUST be living together.

youalright · 20/06/2026 20:33

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:32

The choice to not live together should not impact on the tax payer.

Choice are you insane.

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