Burnham has won. More turmoil?

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Now Burnham has won, it will trigger a leadership contest, and if he wins, a new chancellor of the exchequer.

Surely this cannot be good for the country, or its finances?

YABU - Burnham is a true leader who will improve the UK for everyone and be a competent and respected leader.

YANBU - FFS, here we go again.

I wish the laugh emoji was still around! 🤭

Why?

She seems so down to earth. 😂

This brings to mind a quote by some wag or other describing a Tory MP thus: "Something about him suggests a mother planet other than Earth."

Who do you like @incidentally? Out of the leaders

I liked Keir Starmer but as his days seem to be numbered I support Andy Burnham for the next leader.

The press! It's down to mainly tory owned press. Shocking state of affairs.

And it's not really a question of 'liking' anyone in particular, I support what Labour stand for and are trying to do in a difficult political, national and global climate. They may not be perfect but I do not agree with any of the other parties' stance, statements or policies.

Why? Because she's a woman? Because she is 'common'? Because she's been photographed, no, papped smoking or on a boat?

Starmer is definitely not relatable though it’s why he’s going, and other reasons. Your earlier android description fits Starmer way more, hence the party ousting him.

Burnham might have more of a chance to connect.

Because she comes over as confrontational and thick as pig shit.

How funny to see you call out namecalling 😂

At least Reform didn't win.
Labour clearly need to go with a popular vote and someone with more personality. Let's hope it's enough to consolidate the vote away from the far right.

Enjoy. Ik you’re following closely.

Are you appreciating Starmer going?

I don't agree that he isn't relatable, he strikes me as a normal person, probably an introvert. Nothing wrong with that. I think it's childish to expect the prime minister to be like your best buddy - we shouldn't choose leaders on that basis. Boris Johnson, anyone?

But I agree that Andy Burnham appears more charismatic and he is certainly coming out fighting, so if people respond to that, so be it.

Yes to all of this. I just want boring and reliable with change going in the right direction. Exactly what the right wing owned press hate.

Boris, Trump and Jacinda should have taught us what happens when people vote for a Big Personality.

You brought up the android line and that’s one of Starmer’s issues.

Exactly. People put too much importance on the characters. Starmer is well regarded internationally, he's quite level headed. Boris was out of his depth.

But it's the labour party I support (though it is waning!), they are still the better party out of the ones we have now imo. Unfortunately our British (tory press) will never admit any of this.

She was the deputy PM. How does that signal stupidity?

Does she? Thick as pig shit?
You 100% it's not snobbery?

So what would you describe Starmer as then?

Yes, but I don't see KS as coming across like an android. He's just 'grey' and quiet. For me KB appears like someone who is constantly putting on an act, or worse still, she is actually like that, a person who seems very detached, which I cannot trust.

And Liz Truss made it to PM. The cream doesn’t always rise to the top.

Tbh it might be that Conservative and Labour are getting the wrong message. Lots of posters are acting as if it’s a straight choice between these two parties. It is not. It looks like it is a choice between Reform and Labour.

Kemi B maybe saying some interesting things but I do not think her party are a runner in terms of the next election. Labour seem to be deciding that if they want to beat Reform, they need to change. Might thus logic also extend to the Conservatives? The Labour Party do not seem concerned about the Tories, do they?

Calm, level-headed, essentially trustworthy. He has made mistakes, sure, but I believe he has the country's best interests at heart. But if he is going, I'm Team Burnham, and of course I have warmed to him as someone who seems confident and who is more at ease in the spotlight than KS.